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Old 14th Apr 2022, 14:48
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Brit who was part of the Marines in Mariupol has been captured, he has served in the Ukrainian military since 2018

First pictures emerge of British fighter captured by Russians (msn.com)
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IL 76 Cyprus to Sochi?

Not out of Cyprus...From HECA, Cairo, to Mozdok Airbase near URMM.

One of three today.
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Not out of Cyprus...From HECA, Cairo, to Mozdok Airbase near URMM.

One of three today.
Stevie Thanks for that. I can see an AN 224 tracking up to Sochi on the same route so far.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Brit who was part of the Marines in Mariupol has been captured, he has served in the Ukrainian military since 2018

First pictures emerge of British fighter captured by Russians (msn.com)
Earlier this week, Mr Aslin’s younger brother Nathan Wood begged Russian authorities to take good care of him.

He told MailOnline:As a family we don’t want to say too much because Aiden’s well-being and safety is our prime concern but President Putin has made dire warnings to those Westerners caught fighting for the Ukrainian Army.

Yet Putin has shipped in Syrian soldiers mercenaries to fight in Ukraine according to news sources readily available online.


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Stevie Thanks for that. I can see an AN 224 tracking up to Sochi on the same route so far.
Egyptians supplying weapons or other kit?
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From Telegram - usual caveats apply:

"Special Forces from the Chechen Republic liquidated a representative of the US intelligence agency in the Donbas, - Dudayev

"This is the fate of representatives of the US special services who fell into the hands of fighters from the Chechen Republic, who do not leave a single crime (against the civilian population of the LDNR) unpunished!" - writes the Chechen Minister Akhmed Dudayev."

Link here: https://t.me/intelslava/25230
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American part of the international brigade captured in the Donbas or just his passport?

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I was thinking the announcement was the American had been "Liquidated"....which I would certainly construe to mean "Killed"....in what manner remains to be determined if that is correct.
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Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed / debunked, if so it has past me by.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...h=64080ea55b3b

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Old 14th Apr 2022, 22:06
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Another report from Belgorod. That is to my count four “incidents” in a week.

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Originally Posted by macmp419
Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed / debunked, if so it has past me by.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...h=64080ea55b3b
I note the optimistic note on training time but is there not an element of plausible deniability in that the ac does not have to be controlled by an operator located in Ukraine? Provided there is someone with a correctly badged growbag in the right place, what happens in the hut can be training or not.
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I note the optimistic note on training time but is there not an element of plausible deniability in that the ac does not have to be controlled by an operator located in Ukraine? Provided there is someone with a correctly badged growbag in the right place, what happens in the hut can be training or not.
My thoughts exactly. They could be flown from CONUS and no-one would be any the wiser.
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Well that’s a forced confession or what, and he appears to be making it obvious it’s not his words. One hopes he comes out of this ok and back to his Ukrainian fiancé.


Another high ranking Russian taken out, this time a Lt Colonel


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The Russian Army certainly seems to lead from the front.............. now if this is wise is another question
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Anyone know who the old fart is?

I can never understand the Russian, we can wage a war in your country, but their shock horror when the opposition actually fights back and returns that favour.


Russia’s propaganda of what should be done to Ukraine, it makes a eye opening read as to their mentality.

https://medium.com/@kravchenko_mm/wh...st-a3e92e3cb64

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They are preparing the audience for war against the west, just in case this situation escalates.
Firstly: in Russia no one says nothing that isn't approved by Kremlin, especially the media.
Secondly: The reasoning the state media is using is that the attack against Moskva was an attack by NATO and especially US since they are providing the weapons so from their point of view this already is WW3.

We must remember that the official Russian storyline has been that this is a peace keeping operation to protect DPR/LPR. No one has told the average russians that its a war out there and the enemy is not some biker gang but a real and capable 21st century army with hundreds of thousands of trained soldiers and incredible will to fight.

Now that they are getting hits more than they can bear, they need someone to blame: good Russians are out there to protect civilians and feeding children but the evil and bloodthirsty NATO wants to wipe the noble Russians off the face of the earth.

It's all propaganda, and intelligence services seem to be a bit worried about it as well: the CIA just warned that Putin might try to use nukes as he needs a win and he can't take a loss personally (see link underneath). We in the west may reason all we like that the Russians don't stand a chance against 20x financially more powerful military etc, but apparently Putin has crossed the line beyond that rationality. Just like Hitler who eventually stated that Germany does not deserve to survive if it loses the war so the war may as well be total war

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nuclear-weapons-burns-cia/31804539.html

I do wish I am wrong on this however it all seems to be going to a bad direction.

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Vladolf is cornered and desperate. Hopefully someone in Russia retires him very quickly.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
The reasoning the state media is using is that the attack against Moskva was an attack by NATO and especially US since they are providing the weapons so from their point of view this already is WW3.
Abandoning all pretence that it wasn't an attack then?
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Old 15th Apr 2022, 09:27
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Originally Posted by Mariner9
Abandoning all pretence that it wasn't an attack then?
at 1:01 on the above video it is said it was an attack. The panelist says what happened to Moskva is absolutely a reason for war.
Also, at 1:25 the presenter says that the special military operation in Ukraine has turned into a war. Unless they have already fallen out of a window by accident, this is a message from Kremlin. We need to remember that there are already 15000 russians jailed for "spreading lies regarding the Russian army". These jojos wouldn't dare to say these things without blessing from the very top.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
They are preparing the audience for war against the west, just in case this situation escalates.
Firstly: in Russia no one says nothing that isn't approved by Kremlin, especially the media.
Secondly: The reasoning the state media is using is that the attack against Moskva was an attack by NATO and especially US since they are providing the weapons so from their point of view this already is WW3.

We must remember that the official Russian storyline has been that this is a peace keeping operation to protect DPR/LPR. No one has told the average russians that its a war out there and the enemy is not some biker gang but a real and capable 21st century army with hundreds of thousands of trained soldiers and incredible will to fight.

Now that they are getting hits more than they can bear, they need someone to blame: good Russians are out there to protect civilians and feeding children but the evil and bloodthirsty NATO wants to wipe the noble Russians off the face of the earth.

It's all propaganda, and intelligence services seem to be a bit worried about it as well: the CIA just warned that Putin might try to use nukes as he needs a win and he can't take a loss personally (see link underneath). We in the west may reason all we like that the Russians don't stand a chance against 20x financially more powerful military etc, but apparently Putin has crossed the line beyond that rationality. Just like Hitler who eventually stated that Germany does not deserve to survive if it loses the war so the war may well be total war.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/14/u...r-weapons.html

I do wish I am wrong on this however it all seems to be going to a bad direction.

What’s the point of linking a paywalled article?
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