Is Ukraine about to have a war?
That is one interpretation, but I think that it is more likely that a prolonged and costly war against Ukraine would be seen as a deeply embarrassing failure for Russia's armed forced. If it is portrayed as a war against NATO, then the lack of progress and heavy losses are much more easily explained and less humiliating. I doubt that Russia actually wants direct conflict with NATO.
Putin may not want direct conflict with NATO but seems determined to exploit NATO’s desire to avoid conflict for the sake of achieving his own objectives. And we let him do it. For NATO, it’s a high wire balancing act. I am encouraged by some glimmers of significant support for Ukrainian survival.
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But ... does Putin have an escape clause that would sustain his hold on power, and in the eyes of his Public? Otherwise this drags on to the detriment of the Ukrainian people and their territory.
Otherwise, looking at the red bits of the maps, he's largely attained Plan B ... linking the illegally claimed Donbass and Crimea with the southern Ukrainian ports. So he wins, and we in the West can do sod all about it.
Otherwise, looking at the red bits of the maps, he's largely attained Plan B ... linking the illegally claimed Donbass and Crimea with the southern Ukrainian ports. So he wins, and we in the West can do sod all about it.
Ukraine isn't short of men, they are short of all sorts of equipment. There were 280k military prior to the invasion plus they had a million trained in reserves. Then they have yet another 5-10 million people of the age 18-60 that will be able to fight at least on some level, querrilla if nothing else.
It seems that the Ukrainian mentality is very ready to fight the oppressor, including civilians.
We in the west need to keep a constant flow of supply on every imaginable kit and this will be even more costly to the Russians. The Ukrainians show the strength, we need to provide the tools to throw the Russians to their box.
It seems that the Ukrainian mentality is very ready to fight the oppressor, including civilians.
We in the west need to keep a constant flow of supply on every imaginable kit and this will be even more costly to the Russians. The Ukrainians show the strength, we need to provide the tools to throw the Russians to their box.
|t's off the charts in that show, what ever it is... there was a woman earlier making a strong case for stronger repression inside Russia and the guy in black referring to Ukranians and the west as satan and nazis... Guess the show is where they make entertainment of it and spreading the narrative...
Their definition of NAZI is anyone who is the enemy of Russia, justifying genocide because it is a fight against evil.
This is not new, Russians have been fed this for many years.
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I wonder if Ukraine, led by NATO intel and training, is deliberately dictating what Putin does causing him to fail?
In the same way a few bombs dropped on Berlin caused Hitler to switch from bombing RAF Airfields to civilian targets, I wonder of sinking the Moskva could cause a similar reaction?
Lead him down the garden path using his outrage as a carrot?
In the same way a few bombs dropped on Berlin caused Hitler to switch from bombing RAF Airfields to civilian targets, I wonder of sinking the Moskva could cause a similar reaction?
Lead him down the garden path using his outrage as a carrot?
Isn't that how we got him here in the first place?
He's munching the carrot and flapping his long ears.
Now, what next?
Thats pretty much the Russian government line, they are in a Holy War against the satanic West.
Their definition of NAZI is anyone who is the enemy of Russia, justifying genocide because it is a fight against evil.
This is not new, Russians have been fed this for many years.
Their definition of NAZI is anyone who is the enemy of Russia, justifying genocide because it is a fight against evil.
This is not new, Russians have been fed this for many years.
That's easy. The people seeing it with their own eyes aren't the people being told what to believe.
Not really baffling at all. Putins People by Catherine Belton is a worthy read and will give you a good insight on how he has both exploited and played the West, whilst practically declaring himself Tsar since he duped his own people to make his way into power.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Latest word is Russia is going to declare war with Ukraine as a result of the attack on Maskva - upgrading from their “action”.
Main reason is they can recall all reservists and implement conscription to fill their severely depleted ranks.
However, that will take months, and it remains to be seen if their “reserves” of equipment can be regenerated and their factories replenish munitions.
Main reason is they can recall all reservists and implement conscription to fill their severely depleted ranks.
However, that will take months, and it remains to be seen if their “reserves” of equipment can be regenerated and their factories replenish munitions.
Otherwise, looking at the red bits of the maps, he's largely attained Plan B ... linking the illegally claimed Donbass and Crimea with the southern Ukrainian ports. So he wins, and we in the West can do sod all about it.
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There are people in "The West" who believe (amongst other things) that the Earth is flat
I think the Uka`ns should think a bit `outside the box`..use stratospheric balloons with payloads of newspapers(suitably water resistant ,and enhanced with `Window/chaff) from various launch sites so they reach maximum altitude safely. before overflying Russia.They can then be timed or electronically deploy the payload to drift down over populated areas...Items in the news should include POWs/known dead Russian troop/units,etc. May 9 over Moscow for a `ticker-tape` event...
I hate to say it, but you’re right. Amazing how many people will swallow whatever their favorite party has to say even when it is clearly and repeatedly false. It’s no longer my favorite party.
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I have put the link to this on the Moskva thread, but it’s reporting today
There is also increased activity near to the naval base of Sevastopol. This subsequently died down, implying that the vessels had left Sevastopol. It is possible that a fresh operation is underway.
Update – Russian Navy Movements In Black Sea April 15
Since the sinking, Russia’s reaction has been subject to speculation. At around 6.30pm local time on April 15 a radar satellite covered Crimea. Two formations of Russian Navy warships, likely including Landing ships, are seen steaming northwest. Their direction suggests that they are sailing towards the Ukrainian coast.There is also increased activity near to the naval base of Sevastopol. This subsequently died down, implying that the vessels had left Sevastopol. It is possible that a fresh operation is underway.
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Times is apparently reporting the SAS are in Ukraine training Ukrainians.
Times is apparently reporting the SAS are in Ukraine training Ukrainians.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...C9hefJ1IYqAAAA
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...C9hefJ1IYqAAAA
Germany is apparently raising its international military support effort to Ukraine to about 2bn euros.
Ukraine to get over 1bn euros.
Germany may be a slow starter (anyone remember the 5000 helmets) but once they get on track...
Ukraine to get over 1bn euros.
Germany may be a slow starter (anyone remember the 5000 helmets) but once they get on track...
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An excellent read re arming Ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/15...tin-offensive/
I often thought a couple hundred quad bikes equipped with NLAW or Javelin’s operating in teams free to hunt out targets would be better, after all they cope with mud well, are light, cheap, easy to learn, easy to maintain, are quick and can shoot and scoot..
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/15...tin-offensive/
I often thought a couple hundred quad bikes equipped with NLAW or Javelin’s operating in teams free to hunt out targets would be better, after all they cope with mud well, are light, cheap, easy to learn, easy to maintain, are quick and can shoot and scoot..
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