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Old 18th Dec 2015, 14:00
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Percival Way looks like its finally going to have some much needed repairs carried out overnight on the 22nd:

Percival Way partial closure overnight 22nd December 2015 - London Luton Airport
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 14:01
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Is the space between the Gulfstream & Thomson hangars going to be built on or remain as parking?

Remain as parking (stand 58)
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 15:24
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Just need Norwegian now!
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 23:02
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AtlasGlobal

From the 27th of March AtlasGlobal will move their flight a little bit later.
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It would be good to see them add more frequency to this route and maybe try other routes in Turkey. This is another country with not many flights to Luton and Luton could have many more.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 05:58
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COPENHAGEN ROUTE

Looking at the CAA stats for November a total of 58,845 yes 58,845 passengers flew the route. Gatwick had a drop of 64 per cent from 66,000 to 24,000 compared to 12 months ago. This must be Luton´s most popular route at the present time. I imagine it must be hurting Norwegian.
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Looking at the CAA stats for November a total of 58,845 yes 58,845 passengers flew the route. Gatwick had a drop of 64 per cent from 66,000 to 24,000 compared to 12 months ago. This must be Luton´s most popular route at the present time. I imagine it must be hurting Norwegian.
The CAA figures for Gatwich does not yet include the Norwegian numbers. They flew around 37.000 on CPH-LGW in November. This means that CPH-LGW ends at 61.000 pax and down around 8%.
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Thanks for that.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 07:54
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Total CPH-London market was up 22% in November to 198.000 pax. Quite impressive - however loads are good but yield sucks!
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 09:04
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Calm down people, let's get Transavia and Vueling routes through the door and flying, then see how they perform, before we start talking about them creating bases here and further routes from LTN!

I love it how we have two bits of good news, and everyone's mind goes into overdrive, who will be the next new carrier and what exotic routes will they offer?!

But it has been an awesome coup for the airport in recent weeks. They need congratulating on the hard work behind the scenes, they must have done to secure these carriers.

It isn't a major concern, but I do hope new carriers flying duplicate routes to other established airlines based at the airport, doesn't cause issues further down the line. For example them reducing capacity on a route or moving capacity away from the airport.

We have seen this with a few East European routes that easyJet use to fly and threw the towel in, like Budapest, Prague, Warsaw and Krakow.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 09:50
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I do hope new carriers flying duplicate routes to other established airlines based at the airport, doesn't cause issues further down the line
You make a fair point Giles (but do cheer up ) - you could look at it the other way though and say that easyjet have left themselves open to competition by not building sufficient frequency on their key Luton routes.

Just to give one example (there are many more) - their foray into Munich has been woeful with not even a daily service and clearly aimed at the UK originating leisure sector rather than business or german originating travellers.

However I think Monarch is still viewed as vulnerable by some of the more predatory carriers out there.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 10:44
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Grrr

Rumours of more routes from Vueling by the summer!

Possibilities could include their following bases? Rome, A Coruña, Alicante, Bilbao, Brussels, Florence, Madrid, Málaga, Palma , Paris-Orly, Santiago , Seville, Valencia & Ibiza.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 11:44
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But it has been an awesome coup for the airport in recent weeks. They need congratulating on the hard work behind the scenes, they must have done to secure these carriers.
More of a case of having the choice of Luton or Southend and grabbing the last two 7am-8am slots which the other London airports didn't have.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 13:26
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Originally Posted by LTNman
More of a case of having the choice of Luton or Southend and grabbing the last two 7am-8am slots which the other London airports didn't have.
Are these last two slots that have just been taken up, due to runway or apron capacity at the airport?

If it is runway capacity, the airport really needs to pull its finger out, and get the parallel taxiway's underway! As I am sure I read, this was one of the last phases of the airport expansion scheme, and not due to be completed until late 2018.

Out of curiousity what will the runways hourly capacity be after the full taxiways are in place, compared to now?!
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 14:48
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Are these last two slots that have just been taken up, due to runway or apron capacity at the airport?
Think it must be runway capacity at that time of day as the first wave has left and continues to leave as Wizz takes over.

If it is runway capacity, the airport really needs to pull its finger out, and get the parallel taxiway's underway! As I am sure I read, this was one of the last phases of the airport expansion scheme, and not due to be completed until late 2018.
08 is more of a problem than 26 as more aircraft need to backtrack as the takeoff run is shorter and the taxiway intersection by the fire station gets blocked as aircraft queue over the bridge and back to the main apron.

The taxiway extension on 08 is now part of phase one which is why the mid term car park extension is being finished off now as part of that car park needs to be closed off for the new taxiway. I am guessing that work will start this summer on the taxiway when it is a bit more dryer but that is just a guess on my part.

With two entry points onto 08 it will give ATC more flexibility in getting aircraft onto the runway. As for 26 it is indeed a later phase and I think it is the 3rd phase as well.

Out of curiousity what will the runways hourly capacity be after the full taxiways are in place, compared to now?!
Good question, my guess it that it won't change a great deal as most departures these days leave from the intersection anyway but there are times when this changes I think mainly due to weather conditions.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 15:41
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I don't think it matters that departures are from the intersection. Runway capacity planning will take in to account a backtrack, but when that is no longer necessary, theoretical capacity will increase, and that's what determines slots..
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 16:51
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Found the following statement from LLA about future runway capacity from the master plan document.

The additional capacity will allow better use to
be made of the runway. The proposed new and extended
taxiways will facilitate easier access to and egress from
the runway. This plan increases the peak movement rate
to 40 compared to 34 in summer 2011.

This webpage will download the PDF https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...RWgkmw&cad=rja
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 17:06
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Runway capacity

This doc shows a different story http://www.acl-uk.org/UserFiles/File...ec%20S2016.pdf An increase up to 40 per hour will be a big increase, but they have to park somewhere. The 07:00 figure is only 28, is this why this is full in S16, four less than 06:00 hour?
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 17:16
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I read a PDF about an hour ago that stated the theoretical limit of 34 moments can't be sustained so some slack needs to be built into the following hour to help stop delays building up.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 17:32
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Pabely - in the document you link to the movement rate in the 0700 hour local (0600 hour GMT) is 34 not 28.

LTMman - your statement about sustained runway capacity of 34 is answered in the document link in Pabley's link - it is only 34 for a single hour and seems to be 31 most of the rest of the time.
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Itchin McCrevis - thanks for the correction
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