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More aeroplanes than people...does that mean they don't care about the extension.....or think it was going to be a load of spin? No doubt our man in the park was there as was the great ALLMCC....how'd it go fellas?
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Maybe I should have said, had been on one instead of has one, they were on a notice at one stage, and this came from a servisair employee's mouth and not just a low level employee..., this happened shortly after a bmibaby pilot made a formal complaint to servisair for performance at a turnaround which was approx 2.5 months ago, I witnessed the turnaround mentioned and it was a disaster considering they only had 1 other flight on the ground.. None of the above is false
I predict a contract change at the start of next summer
I predict a contract change at the start of next summer
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Confirmed on the 1200 news RYR to finish operations at BHD on 31 Oct. Guess the runway extension issue decided it?
It begs the question was the operation really profitable if it can be pulled at such short notice?
It begs the question was the operation really profitable if it can be pulled at such short notice?
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heard a rumor awhile back that they were just planning to have no based aircraft at BHD, but a pull out, total surprise... as for them coming to BFS, they've made enough digs at BFS in the years they've been in the N.I market.. it all depends if BFS management is desperate or if FR was just talking poo.. good luck to those who are affected job wise...
.....and the BFS boys have had enough digs at RYR too, so they wouldn't be welcome......would they?
Considering the number of pax RYR carry on the Stansted route alone, this is one hell of a kick in the sore place for BHD.
Will BE attempt to take up the slack and did I read somewhere BD were reducing frequencies on the BHD-LHR route? Will this be reconsidered now one of their biggest competitors from BHD is going?
Considering the number of pax RYR carry on the Stansted route alone, this is one hell of a kick in the sore place for BHD.
Will BE attempt to take up the slack and did I read somewhere BD were reducing frequencies on the BHD-LHR route? Will this be reconsidered now one of their biggest competitors from BHD is going?
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I would not be surprised if FR starts the STN route using a STN aircraft as im sure they don't want to give up their large share of the BHD-LON market. However we have seen FR pull routes that are performing well when they have fallen out with local authorities/airports.
BD have been reducing at BHD for a bit (used to be 8 rotations a day!!) so I don't think FR's move will change this. I thought that the BHD route used to be one of their better performing routes.
I don't see BE been interested in any of the routes. STN would compete against LGW. We lost interest in BRS when EZY and FR moved in their. BE go for the business traveller on the GLA market. We do not operate into EMA from any of our other bases and I do not see that changing any time soon. Finally PIK would just compete with the GLA, and we have lots of rotations to MAN with EZY covering the LPL market from BFS.
I think EZY could move in on the LPL route and maybe move a couple of rotations from BFS if FR doesn’t re-start it using a LPL aircraft.
BD have been reducing at BHD for a bit (used to be 8 rotations a day!!) so I don't think FR's move will change this. I thought that the BHD route used to be one of their better performing routes.
I don't see BE been interested in any of the routes. STN would compete against LGW. We lost interest in BRS when EZY and FR moved in their. BE go for the business traveller on the GLA market. We do not operate into EMA from any of our other bases and I do not see that changing any time soon. Finally PIK would just compete with the GLA, and we have lots of rotations to MAN with EZY covering the LPL market from BFS.
I think EZY could move in on the LPL route and maybe move a couple of rotations from BFS if FR doesn’t re-start it using a LPL aircraft.
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BD have been reducing at BHD for a bit (used to be 8 rotations a day!!)so I don't think FR's move will change this. I thought that the BHD route used to be one of their better performing routes.
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Did hear that they are most likely to reduce to 5 a day over the winter. Didn't know that next summer they are going back up to 7 a day. Good news at least for the BD staff at BHD considering the recent downward trend of rotations.
Does make you wonder, are the winter loads really that bad compared to the summer? Im also guessing that its generally the rotations that are operated by a LHR aircraft that have been/being cut as they need the slots and aircraft for their new German routes that they will be operating for/on behalf of LH.
Does make you wonder, are the winter loads really that bad compared to the summer? Im also guessing that its generally the rotations that are operated by a LHR aircraft that have been/being cut as they need the slots and aircraft for their new German routes that they will be operating for/on behalf of LH.
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I meant would they increase capacity on existing routes, not start flying to former RYR destinations. I.e. Increase BHX to cater for EMA demand. Increase GLA to cater for PIK demand etc etc.
People flying to LON don't really mind which airport they land at, they still have to travel into London; it follows that some of the 20-30K people a month who used RYR to STN, would be happy to use BE to LGW or EZY to LTN for example.
I don't see BE been interested in any of the routes. STN would compete against LGW. We lost interest in BRS when EZY and FR moved in their. BE go for the business traveller on the GLA market. We do not operate into EMA from any of our other bases and I do not see that changing any time soon. Finally PIK would just compete with the GLA, and we have lots of rotations to MAN with EZY covering the LPL market from BFS.
People flying to LON don't really mind which airport they land at, they still have to travel into London; it follows that some of the 20-30K people a month who used RYR to STN, would be happy to use BE to LGW or EZY to LTN for example.
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I could maybe see Flybe taking over the London Stansted route, as for:
Liverpool - pulled of the route a few years back
Bristol - tried before and never lasted long
Glasgow Prestwick - already serving Glasgow International from BHD
East Midlands - they already serve Birmingham from BHD
Liverpool - pulled of the route a few years back
Bristol - tried before and never lasted long
Glasgow Prestwick - already serving Glasgow International from BHD
East Midlands - they already serve Birmingham from BHD
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Sorry misunderstood your question.
Answering your actual question this time round, I don't see BE increasing their frequencies on the GLA route. FR was down to one rotation a day anyway to PIK. With BRS, BE did increase the number of flights to CWL recently but this because Baby stopped their route from BFS so I don't think we will see any further increase in rotations. Their could be the possibility of an additional rotation to LGW but if this was to be on the E195 they would have to pull it off the BHX rotation, or it would have to be on the Q400. Maybe even operated using a LGW aircraft. With BHX I don't feel there will be any increase as to be honest EMA is a bit of a travel from BHX so I feel people are more likely to use Baby from BFS than BE to BHX. Finally for MAN BE may add an extra morning rotation before lunch time but generally most days in the afternoon at least there is a good number of rotations. There could be the possibility if demand really picked up for MAN then they may make more of the rotations E195.
EZY were about to increase the number of rotations to LTN so maybe with FR now pulling out they may add even more?
Sorry misunderstood your question.
Answering your actual question this time round, I don't see BE increasing their frequencies on the GLA route. FR was down to one rotation a day anyway to PIK. With BRS, BE did increase the number of flights to CWL recently but this because Baby stopped their route from BFS so I don't think we will see any further increase in rotations. Their could be the possibility of an additional rotation to LGW but if this was to be on the E195 they would have to pull it off the BHX rotation, or it would have to be on the Q400. Maybe even operated using a LGW aircraft. With BHX I don't feel there will be any increase as to be honest EMA is a bit of a travel from BHX so I feel people are more likely to use Baby from BFS than BE to BHX. Finally for MAN BE may add an extra morning rotation before lunch time but generally most days in the afternoon at least there is a good number of rotations. There could be the possibility if demand really picked up for MAN then they may make more of the rotations E195.
EZY were about to increase the number of rotations to LTN so maybe with FR now pulling out they may add even more?