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frigatebird
15th Feb 2010, 13:12
Well, I thought the video was great, and Bob deserved his five stars. Has done for a long time. :ok::ok:
No Shrike shots, but this was a replacement that I got a ride in, helping out, while it was being fixed, early 2003..

Worlds Longest Mailrun Innamincka

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SA/scan0001.jpg

Boulia

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SA/scan0002.jpg

Peter Fanelli
15th Feb 2010, 15:01
Never thought I'd see the day when NPD was allowed to do the channel run.
When ACZ suffered it's little incident at Clifton Hills and had to go to Perth for repair I had to do the mail run in MEP for five weeks in a row. I did however learn that if you get enough practice you CAN land a Seneca smoothly, over and over again.


Brings back memories of the heat and the flys.
But those clear bright days like the picture. Lunch at the Birdsville Pub.
Good times now that I look back on it.

frigatebird
15th Feb 2010, 23:12
ASA P2 and Kendell Saab at Port Lincoln

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SA/scan0004.jpg

Later model P1 (with the dihedral tailplane), and earlier P2

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SA/scan0005.jpg

frigatebird
16th Feb 2010, 02:21
Backtracking 20 years from a cool S.A. winters morning, to a warm Queensland Sunny afternoon..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0010.jpg

kellykelpie
16th Feb 2010, 07:50
Great vid of Bob Hoover - thanks FTDK!

Fantome
16th Feb 2010, 07:56
Joe and Margaret Drage flew down from Wang for the day to see Skyrace at Valleyfield, Tasmania. For Joe it was the Bob Hoover routine that he really wanted to catch. Instead of heading home that day when it was all over, the Drages overnighted. As Joe put it - 'We had to stop over. Had to see that Shrike perform again. Just to be sure my eyes did not deceive me yesterday.'

Hempy
16th Feb 2010, 08:31
frigatebird, I am loving all of your old scans. I took the last one and spent 2 min on photoshop just to see how they clean up. Heres the result, although I almost prefer the old emulsion 'yellow' tbh..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0010.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/h3mpy/26c26217.jpg

frigatebird
16th Feb 2010, 08:43
Thanks Hempy, nice to get some feedback. Your touch up looks great..
Don't have the expertise on Photoshop, or the inclination. Would like to see how some others come up though, so may make the effort in my dotage, when I organise them better.

Here are another couple from the hanger in 83 before its repaint

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0003-1.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0002-1.jpg

Hempy
16th Feb 2010, 09:24
feel free to PM me if you would like some done, it's not a major operation.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/h3mpy/7cf0f3df.jpg

P51D
16th Feb 2010, 09:52
Forkie - no I haven't seen it in the flesh but I accept your view of it, hope you got chinese tea when you went to intermission. You're a fellow Bonnie driver, so no dramas mate. Great movie though, thanks. :ok:

frigatebird
16th Feb 2010, 10:01
Someone else must have a few.. ? Hope I'm not boring all.. Just having a prune addiction phase at the keyboard before I go off and seek another job..

Jim Boyers early hardwood logging of the old battlefields near Munda..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0011.jpg

The log loading area at Diamond Narrows. The ships pulled up to the undercut coral bank on the narrow passage and loaded directly for Japan. These days they go to Malaysia. When the logs were cut up, the saws got damaged by shrapnel still embedded from the war - so you could say the Japanese were getting their war munitions back 'value added'..
There was an overgrown American-built fighter strip on the peninsula opposite near present day Noro. Munda was the captured long bomber strip, but had fighters based there too.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0012.jpg

Canoe house Diamond Narrows with a family setting sail.
What is the connection with aviation? Not a lot, but I did the charter from Honiara to Munda in the Baron and went along to see the operation. He chartered a fair bit back then. Passed on now - but his son is a Member of Parliament for the area.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0013.jpg

rcoight
17th Feb 2010, 03:27
Took these in the Isle of Man circa late '95.

Met a couple of old private pilots who were restoring this aircraft with a bunch of other chaps and they showed me through it.

I have no idea what it is.

Can anyone shed any light?

Wonder if it was ever finished....


http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae224/rcoight/Aircraft%20Pics/IOM2.jpg

http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae224/rcoight/Aircraft%20Pics/IOM.jpg

chimbu warrior
17th Feb 2010, 03:37
Avro Anson by the look of it.

Hempy
17th Feb 2010, 04:40
Percival Petrel

http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/Percival/q62.jpg

Desert Flower
17th Feb 2010, 10:14
Never thought I'd see the day when NPD was allowed to do the channel run.

PF - all the Chieftains done the mail run at some stage. In the end they were the only aircraft available. And yes, MEP done a few more mail runs. Probably the most memorable one for me was when the Chief Pilot had to do the rest of the run in it after LIC crashed at YINN.

DF.

Jabawocky
17th Feb 2010, 10:27
Hey DF

How is the weather out there, rivers rising yet? Might get the Lake business going again soon?

Its been nothing but ..............well thats my view of today anyway....anyone guess where? Wally will not be happy:suspect:

http://file050b.bebo.com/8/original/2010/02/17/11/4525920200a12226711166o.jpg

J:uhoh:

Desert Flower
17th Feb 2010, 10:43
Hey DF

How is the wether out there, rivers rising yet? Might get the Lake business going again soon?

Jaba, apparently the Cooper Creek is coming down pretty well - remains to be seen if it gets as far as the Lake again.

DF.

frigatebird
17th Feb 2010, 22:19
Over the mountain..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0001-4.jpg

Down by the river..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0002-3.jpg

Robyn and Alan Cameron meet David, his opposite number..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0003-3.jpg

"How many people, David? And what else..?

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0004-3.jpg

The trussed-up carry-on luggage came with carry handles..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0005-3.jpg

Pinky the pilot
18th Feb 2010, 10:58
all the Chieftains done the mail run at some stage. In the end they were the only aircraft available

No-one ever heard me complaining about that!:D:E:ok:

Peter Fanelli
18th Feb 2010, 11:10
Could I possibly be the only one who had the pleasure of doing the mail run in MEP AND AWS?

Desert Flower
18th Feb 2010, 20:46
Could I possibly be the only one who had the pleasure of doing the mail run in MEP AND AWS?

No, there were a few others who done it in both. I even managed to score a trip with RM in (J)AWS once, when ACZ was being repainted.

DF.

frigatebird
18th Feb 2010, 20:55
Base Pilot's home airport Nusatupe

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0014.jpg

Terry Holt (The Yank) meeting the Metro at Munda

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0015.jpg

The Metro and South Pacific Air Race aircraft at Munda

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0001-5.jpg

Wendy and Terry Holt's 'Go Finish' Send-off in the 'Special Kai Room' in Chinatown, before they went back to Seattle.
Other pilots were all Metro pilots at some stage-
from L. - Dangerfield's g/f, Stuart, Wendy and Terry, Bruce, his wife, Peter, his wife, Peter, Jasper.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0016.jpg

Jabawocky
22nd Feb 2010, 04:04
OK FB, just so you don't feel alone, here are some oldies from PNG that might get a few folk wondering....:hmm:

Must pay a credit to the photographer a Captain from Virgin Blue, I hope he does not mind me sharing them! :suspect:

http://i1.bebo.com/051b/11/large/2010/02/22/04/4525920200a12244648252l.jpg


Pallazzo de Talair ..........
http://i1.bebo.com/050b/5/large/2010/02/22/04/4525920200a12244648216l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/051b/20/large/2010/02/22/04/4525920200a12244648203l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/050b/15/large/2010/02/22/04/4525920200a12244648189l.jpg

And this one should keep Forkie, Chuck and the other Bo lovers happy :}
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/2/large/2010/02/22/04/4525920200a12244648176l.jpg

And one last one for all the Bongo Van lovers out there.....You know who you are :E
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/17/large/2010/02/22/04/4525920200a12244648163l.jpg


So how is that Frigatebird? You have now exhausted my collection almost.....and its not really my collection.

J:ok:

j3pipercub
22nd Feb 2010, 08:15
Long Live The Bongo!!!!

chimbu warrior
22nd Feb 2010, 08:30
I ferried one of the ex-Panga Airways Islanders from Goroka to Brisbane once, but I think it was P2-PAC (became P2-ISO I think). 28 years ago, but I still have the ringing in my ears!

A loooooooong way at 130 knots.

frigatebird
22nd Feb 2010, 10:33
O.K. Jaba, I take your point. Maybe my old red tinted ones don't hold as much interest for others as crisp digital photos, so can keep them off, I was no expert photographer anyway - they only bring up memories for me anyway.. was putting up some that I thought would be of general interest of an era past. One poster, Hempy, replied positively with suggestions.
I usually find any photo of an aircraft interesting, especially if there is some background given with it.

j3pipercub
22nd Feb 2010, 10:52
Hey Frigate,

Please don't stop posting your photos! I reckon they're fantastic! Seriously!

j3

Jabawocky
22nd Feb 2010, 10:57
FB

What is your reason for being crabby at me?.....I am loving your old pictures. :ok:

You said..............
Well, if nobody else will, I'll put up another couple..


So I thought......you needed some company...you know ....Lets all join in on the old PNG pics! So they were the only ones I had and thought you might actually know some folk in them! Was just sharing!

I think you have mistaken me and taken my post the wrong way............so no hard feelings mate! :ok:

Get back to your scanner and send some more!:ok:

My problem is I have nothing new to add.....only flying was up your way last Wednesday.........and it was all white! :uhoh:

J:)

frigatebird
22nd Feb 2010, 11:19
Aaawwwhh, O.K. then, maybe I fired up quickly..

The Cook and the Foreman at the construction camp at Cape Flattery, when we were flying the boilermakers, fitters and riggers, morning and afternoon to and from Cooktown in '86 in Titans and Navajos with Sunbird..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Cape%20Flattery%20Silica%20Sand%20facility%2086/scan0020.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Cape%20Flattery%20Silica%20Sand%20facility%2086/scan0001.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Cape%20Flattery%20Silica%20Sand%20facility%2086/scan0013.jpg

the mosquitos at Cooktown airport when we were refuelling on dark for the next days early morning start were humungeous..

sixtiesrelic
22nd Feb 2010, 23:00
So ya like 'em old... here's some.
Hell Jabba that TAL mess looks like the Moresby Stol mess in 1969.
Who tidied ya room?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/sixtiesrelic/doug.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/sixtiesrelic/DougDh61.jpg


http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/sixtiesrelic/ohs.jpg
Now what would the OH&S old dears think of this.
Funny thing... he's still alive and going strong.

I have a bunch of DVDs of Pre and post war PNG aviation photos and movies from 1033 to 1977 sitting here waiting to go into a post pack. If you want them PM me.
Sixties

Aye Ess
23rd Feb 2010, 02:28
Frigatebird & sixtiesrelic,you guys are fan-flaming-tastic!!
Many of us have been following your pictorial histories for a long time & the memories are the best.
Somehow,the old faded photos seem to add to the nostalgia.
Please,find & post more....and anyone else who have got shoe boxes full of old piccys,get them up for the enjoyment of hundreds of fellow aviators.

sixtiesrelic
23rd Feb 2010, 03:44
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/sixtiesrelic/collapse.jpg


http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/sixtiesrelic/draagon.jpg

Know Bruce but from later days than those. We're all a lot heavier now.
Those DVDs are offered to anyone who likes PNG history.
PM me with an address.
Sixties

frigatebird
23rd Feb 2010, 06:40
Sixties,
Those ARE Classics..!!
What was the type with the ladder up the wing? Haven't seen that model before - must be British ..!! About what year?

Hempy
23rd Feb 2010, 07:46
Frigate, thats an Aussie built Tugan Gannet, designed by Lawrence Wackett and built in the mid '30s.

http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac6/Wackett%20Gannet.jpg

frigatebird
23rd Feb 2010, 09:20
Australian equivalent forerunner of an Islander then, .. I guess.. IF it could get off short with a load in the Hot and High..!!

Grogmonster
23rd Feb 2010, 09:22
Frigatebird,

Having grown up and flown in PNG I wonder if you would be prepared to guess how many strips the Metro could safely and legally fly into and out of in PNG? I am talking about the real law not the law according to Junior.

Groggy

frigatebird
23rd Feb 2010, 12:16
Even Junior didn't want it, but it came down to either pay 2 million U.S. and get it with a spare engine, or half a million and get nothing.. Horses for Courses really, we were the driver meat in the sandwich who had to try and make it work when it arrived. Even Milesey was sent down to lend a hand.... We were getting a better run out of ours, because of the long sectors, than Bushies were, operating theirs on short hops up and down the Queensland coast at the time. It flew mainly Honiara - Munda - Kieta (320 miles)-return, daily, sometimes twice daily to connect with Air Pacific's BAC 111 then 737-200 to and from Brisbane (cheaper for the copper miners than going over though Moresby and down to Brisbane with Air Niugini), also gave a connection to Vanuatu and Fiji (and N.Z.) on those days, and twice weekly Honiara - Santo -Vila (about 700 miles) -return, as well as Charters to Brisbane, Nadi and Nauru, which were mainly at night because the aircraft was committed to its regular schedule during daylight hours. With an Islander based at Gizo to feed Western traffic to it both ways as well, that helped keep the loads up. When it was out of service for a year in '85, we operated a Bandit sent down, but it didn't carry any more pax than the Metro over those routes, was slower, cruised lower, and didn't have the good autopilot or Omega for S.P. work. Mind you, the strips used were all longer ones, International Airports of Entry, the only grass strip used by the Metro sometimes was Kira Kira. I like Bandits, have plenty of time on them, and can understand how they did so well. Of the four types evaluated for the first turbine, KingAir, Twin Otter, Bandeirante and Metro before selection, they would all have been compromised in some way by the route requirement for number of seats, Stol versus Speed/Range, unpressurised versus pressurised, etc. No, I couldn't see a Metro 2 being used to the same places in P.N.G. as the Bandit was so successfully, for so long. (Perhaps with the optional JATO Rocket installed in the tail, and it and the Water/Meth used for every takeoff at altitude.. just joking.. ;))Comes back to what you're given, and the environment you operate in. Always got plenty of stick from our brothers over the border because we were operating a one-off in the organisation.. But the ordinary drivers had no say in the selection,..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0002-4.jpg

Metro 2 at Kieta, with PNG Customs, Immigration and Quarantine officers, and refuellers.

frigatebird
23rd Feb 2010, 19:20
Something else for Kids and Crew to play with between waypoints in the mid 80's..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Fiji/scan0001-4.jpg

Brian Abraham
23rd Feb 2010, 23:36
Posted since I know at least one Prooner laments opportunities missed. From an acquaintance who purchased the aircraft circa 1960s for US$1,000 and flew it for a brief time before the dreaded "D" intervened, requiring mandatory division of assets. Now resides in the US Navy museum, Pensacola.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/babraham227/4.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/babraham227/41.jpg

Super Cecil
24th Feb 2010, 03:36
Interesting to see the fabric panels on the wing, looking at an all one colour one you wouldn't know but spar back on corsair is fabric.

frigatebird
25th Feb 2010, 07:26
Visiting the Tower to meet The Voices (with a French Accent),
La Tontouta

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/New%20Caledonia/scan0016.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/New%20Caledonia/scan0011.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/New%20Caledonia/scan0012.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/New%20Caledonia/scan0013.jpg

Old Photos
Perhaps the Tech Crews from Vanuatu and Nouvelle Caledonie could post some recent ones of their ATR-72's at work to enlighten the Aussies..

onezeroonethree
25th Feb 2010, 08:37
Frigatebird have you tried putting those old red-ish photos through photoshop? One click of the auto-tone and auto-colour and they look good as new with more greens & blues :)

The Green Goblin
25th Feb 2010, 09:39
Any guesses on this one? Hint: It has it's own NDB approach. Green Goblin.... you're not allowed to guess!!!

But I waaaaaaaaaaant to!!!

P.S It won't be a guess :ok:

SINGAPURCANAC
25th Feb 2010, 12:42
Short final,somewhere. the question is where? Best regards from Europe. Probably the best thread on this forum. really enjoying :ok:

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab53/SINGAPURCANAC/00020001.jpg

descol
25th Feb 2010, 14:29
Lisbon - a long way from Dunnunda !

tinpis
26th Feb 2010, 01:07
Not quite Supercecil
They certainly had fabric covered ailerons and elevators, rudder.

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo225/43willys_jeep/corsairs.jpg

Jabawocky
26th Feb 2010, 01:27
I see the sheep in there........ RNZAF?

J:E

Horatio Leafblower
26th Feb 2010, 01:29
Very Close Jaba - that's actually the RNZAF Women's Auxilliary :ok:

40Deg STH
26th Feb 2010, 02:14
Tinny

A kiwi pilots dream.............Aircraft and some sheep in the same picture. Is that considered pornography?:O

Super Cecil
26th Feb 2010, 05:26
Not quite Supercecil
They certainly had fabric covered ailerons and elevators, rudder.

Have a close look you can see the rib stitching, seems not very likely but do a bit of loogin at some details of the Corsar and yool see. Don't know about the last ones with the 4360 in them but most certainly in the earlier ones.

slackie
26th Feb 2010, 07:18
Tin...Rukuhia??:{

Corkey McFuz
26th Feb 2010, 08:26
Why on earth did they leave all the canopies open ? :sad:

muddergoose
26th Feb 2010, 08:51
Tinpis...Where are they now?

This Hadron Collider could be a good thing :8

paulg
26th Feb 2010, 09:57
How did they get there? Flown in in formation?

Arnold E
26th Feb 2010, 10:03
Interesting question, Why were all the canopies left open?????

I gotta say that for a guy of my age, Makes me cry to see photos like this, coz guys my age were responsible for this carnage:sad::sad:

paulg
26th Feb 2010, 10:06
The sheep forgot to close them?

tinpis
26th Feb 2010, 20:34
By jove Supercecil, you are right!
Its been so long I cant remembry
The canopies were left open so little boys like Tin could play in 'em

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/cafcorsair/Images/Restorations/Aussie/NZ/IP_NZ5612%20at%20Rukahia_sm.jpg

The shed they melted most of em in :{

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/611184/fullsize/furnace%20building%20rukuhia.jpg

Every cow-cocky in the district had a farm trailer with P-40 or Corsair wheels



I likes this photty :ok:

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/cafcorsair/Images/History/RNZAF/NZ%20scheme%208.jpg


Here they were before the delivery flight
http://rnzaf.hobbyvista.com/Images/corhob.jpg

frigatebird
26th Feb 2010, 23:29
I'd loike one of those with the fold up wings, so I could trailer it home between flights, stick it in a shed, and save on airport hangarage..
The original older DH 60's USED to be like that.

tinpis
27th Feb 2010, 00:31
A four and bit tons a little heavy for towing with the Morrie 8 :hmm:

Ex FSO GRIFFO
27th Feb 2010, 04:45
Will somebody / anybody, p..please tell me they've got just a couple safely 'parked' in their shed - somewhere.....just a couple of 'em...:cool:

(Yep - have seen the one that performs at Wanaka, and hopefully, will see it again this Easter...):ok::ok:

Horatio Leafblower
27th Feb 2010, 12:10
Orright you lot, enough of the reminiscing.

Spotted at Camden:
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/24003_373386650759_529915759_5024365_537715_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/24003_373386655759_529915759_5024366_3998439_n.jpg
Both mains burst on landing, I was told, and then she was taxiied off the runway and to the tie-downs. :ooh:
... a very sore fleet indeed :uhoh:

Oil caps: Handy.
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs128.snc3/17540_319386010759_529915759_4779746_5686363_n.jpg

Macrohard
27th Feb 2010, 18:26
What's the difference between a "toe limit" and a "tow limit"? Not sure ..... just ask a camel! :E

bentleg
27th Feb 2010, 20:00
What's the difference between a "toe limit" and a "tow limit"? Not sure ..... just ask a camel! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif

And while we are at it I thought a camel toe was something :mad: not related to camels.

j3pipercub
27th Feb 2010, 23:40
So I'm assuming he got the trophy for shortest landing then?

Horatio Leafblower
28th Feb 2010, 01:37
Rumour was that he flew it on at 120 kt and slammed on the brakes. Possibly stopped shorter than he thought he would :uhoh:

great skid marks down the runway (only a Cessna twin has a wheel track that wide) but didn't check upholstery for same.

kimwestt
28th Feb 2010, 05:20
"Brian told me so!!";)

Nose wheel first
28th Feb 2010, 21:55
Aaaah, the old "high speed apoproach with maximum braking" aye??? I've seen it done a couple of times and it seems to be most effective if you land with the brakes already on!!! :}

Looks like they should have issued a SPECI for vis reducing to 500m in moke near the threshold!

Peter Fanelli
28th Feb 2010, 22:14
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Perfect spot impa....umm landing, right on the green lights :)

frigatebird
1st Mar 2010, 00:47
A long post this one. For the new generation.. and the oldies..
Also note the Accurate and Descriptive Reporting of the era !!!
Thanks to Ted Wixted, former Aviation Historian - Queensland Museum, with whom I corresponded briefly 30 or so years ago, and who sold me the souvenir about early '90. Also credit to the Maryborough Chronicle for the description of the first 'Takeoff' and 'Landing' all those years ago..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Centenary%20of%20the%20Air%20Age%20in%20Queensland%201890%20-%201990/scan0001.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Centenary%20of%20the%20Air%20Age%20in%20Queensland%201890%20-%201990/scan0005.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Centenary%20of%20the%20Air%20Age%20in%20Queensland%201890%20-%201990/scan0004.jpg

THE TOUR OF QUEENSLAND BEGINS

Following the successful flight of 22 May 1890, which ended with a parachuting descent into the grounds of Brisbane Hospital, an attempt was made at a second flight in Brisbane, this time from Breakfast Creek Grounds on 26 May 1890. There were difficulties of crowd control during the dangerous procedure of inflating the balloon and an accident resulted when one of the supporting poles fell prematurely. The performance was cancelled. A few days later, on Saturday 31 May, Gladys Van Tassell took off from the same grounds. After a successful flight she descended in the nearby suburb of Albion.

Plans called for a tour of Queensland cities. At this time Queensland was well served by coastal shipping. At 4pm on Tuesday, 3 June, the Van Tassell team embarked at Brisbane on the “Derwent”. They arrived in Maryborough the following morning, with a display already scheduled for 6 June at the Show Grounds. Passsengers for Maryborough on that historic trip of the “Derwent” were listed as follows –

Mesdames Higgin, Walker and child, Thorne, Cornish and 2 children, Evans, Misses Bayford, Neil, S.R. Tandevin, Schwartzrock, Van Tassel (2), Ripley, Messrs Lilley, Kruger, Littkop…t, Q. Hill, Langley, R. Gardner, Bartholomew, Hedges, Chadwick, Whalley, Stanton, Leftwich, Thorne, Lawrence, Sock, Coulthurst, Green, Howard, Dodson, Hughes, Mullen, Fitzwilliam, Traighey, Van Tassell, and 45 in steerage.

The name recorded as “Lawrence” should almost certainly be “Lorentz” the person concerned being a member of the Van Tassell team.

The arrival of the balloonists/parachutists was noted in the Maryborough Chronicle on 5 June. “The celebrated aeronauts and gymnasts, the sisters Van Tassell, who have been giving sensational exhibitions of their athletic skill and nerve, down South arrived in Maryborough from Brisbane yesterday, and will give exhibitions in this town on Friday. The balloon ascent will be made from the Showgrounds tomorrow afternoon, when Miss Gladys Van Tassell will sail among the clouds, and then springing from the balloon, will descend into the Showgrounds again, suspended from a parachute… The whole exhibition is very novel, and as this is the first time that the opportunity of seeing a balloon ascent, or even a balloon, has occurred in Maryborough, it is likely to attract considerable public interest. In addition to this feat, the clever sisters will appear at the Albert Rink in the evening, and give their double trapeze performance, in which they had won a good name before they took to balloon ascents”.

In its issue of the following day, the Chronicle wrote again of “the novelty of the exhibition” and exhorted Maryborough citizens to give it “proper patronage” by passing through the gates. A large advertisement informed the populace that “Miss Gladys Van Tassell will make a grand balloon ascent and parachute jump, returning within the enclosure, with the aid of her new patent parachute”. The afternoon of 6 June was to prove a disappointment: a strong south-east wind was blowing and it was obviously too risky to make a balloon ascent under such unfavourable circumstances.
There was nothing to prevent the sisters from performing on the double trapeze at the Albert Rink that same evening, however, and the public occupied all available accommodation to watch, and applaud, Valerie and Gladys as they performed a number of graceful and difficult evolutions in the air.

The historic first flight in Maryborough took place during the late afternoon of Saturday, 7 June 1890. According to the “Chronicle” it was a brilliant success. There was something to criticize, however: “Buggies of the well-to-do were drawn up round the fence on the outside, and the occupants stood on the seats; the fences across the streets were packed with human beings, like crows on a rail. This great crowd had gathered together to see one of the finest and most daring feats ever seen in Maryborough – and to see it for nothing. Inside there was a smaller and less economical assemblage who apparently did not object to contribute a trifle to the people who earned their money by their performance”. It was a repeat of circumstances which attended all Van Tassell aerial performances in Australia, whether in Melbourne, Adelaide or Brisbane. Indeed, a hundred years later, the organizers of air shows might well be heard voicing similar concerns.

In 1990 it is a simple matter to inflate a hot air balloon. The balloon cloth is laid out to its full extremity, the mouth is opened, and a stream of cold air is blown through the mouth by a powerful fan. Soon the balloon fills out with air. A burner which replaces the fan heats the air inside the balloon and the balloon rises above the basket. The procedure takes no more than a few minutes. The method used in 1890 was quite laborious: it is depicted on page 3.

The Maryborough ascent was described at length by the Chronicle on Monday, 9 June 1890: “Shortly after 5 o’clock on Saturday all was ready; the northernmost pole was brought down, and the ropes taken away so as to give the balloon a clear escape, a number of assistants holding the balloon down by the ring around the aperture. The parachute and the trapeze were then attached to a bar across the hoop, and all the fittings were closely examined and secured by Mr. Van Tassell. Miss Gladys Van Tassell, wrapped in an ulster, and accompanied by her sister Miss Valerie Van Tassell, then appeared on the scene and received a hearty round of applause. The parachute and trapeze were stretched out on the ground in an opposite direction from the balloon to that which the balloon would take when liberated. Miss Gladys picked up the trapeze and caught hold of the ropes, her sister standing by her with her arm around her waist. The moment had come and excitement was high, but suppressed. The sister drew off her sister’s ulster, and she stood revealed in her charming athletic costume. Then Mr. Van Tassel in a loud voice sang out“Let go the balloon”. Amid a chorus of “Oh’s” and “Ah’s” and feminine shrieks the great globe rose with a quick but steady motion. Miss Gladys springing from her sister’s arms gave three or four strides over the ground and was then whisked into the air and in a moment, amidst a cry almost of horror, was hanging from the bar by her toes over the heads of the startled spectators. She performed a number of graceful feats until she had reached a great height and became quite dimunitive and her features indistinct.
As the balloon rose it took a northerly course, and many outside set out in that direction, but the great majority with their necks craned were rooted to the spot and gazed upwards in wonderment. Presently, when Miss Gladys had become reduced to a spec, the dark object above her was seen to fade away, and the cry was raised, “The balloon is going through the cloud!” This was the case, and presently it had completely vanished. Some 20 or 30 seconds of suspense followed, then “There she is” was cried and all eyes were turned to the same cloud, through which the intrepid young lady sitting on the bar of the trapeze with the expanded parachute above her, was gently and gracefully descending. The parachute seemed remarkably small compared with the balloon that had taken her up. It was seen that she would land somewhere near the hospital, and there was a great rush of horsemen and vehicles in that direction. Nearer and nearer came the parachute to earth and Miss Van Tassell could be seen oscillating it in a certain direction, and presently it disappeared amongst the trees and was lost from view. At this moment a very heavy shower of rain fell which lasted about 7 minutes and obscured everything. As it cleared away the balloon in a collapsed state was seen coming to earth still further to the north. Miss Van Tassell who had gone in that direction in a cab, returned in about a quarter of an hour to the grounds with her sister safe and sound, and they were escorted by about 20 horsemen. Miss Gladys was greeted with great cheering and taken into the Exhibition hall a large crowd following, and there she received an enthusiastic ovation…”

The parachutist landed on the left hand side of Walker Street, near the Hospital. In a later interview, she said she had descended from 7,500 feet, then described the sensations experienced as the parachute left the balloon. Closer to the ground she saw she was “over by your Hospital. I could have oscillated down there, but I don’t like coming down near buildings, and besides they had told me they had a bed ready for me there. Then I saw someone on horseback waving a handkerchief to me near an open spot. I steered for that, and as I came down I caught on top of a tree, breaking off two branches and alighting in a swamp, splashing myself with mud. The man who had waved to me was Constable Amies…”

The Van Tassell team left Maryborough for Rockhampton on 8 June.

VH-XXX
1st Mar 2010, 07:26
Point Cook Air Pageant 2010.

PC21, my next ride.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc1.jpg

Sexy from any angle...

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc2.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc3.jpg

What year is it?

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc4.jpg

Jim & Jenny. Always putting in everywhere they go.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc5.jpg
P40F. So well restored and pretty, it looks like a fake

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc6.jpg

The Boomerang that came back (it was built at Fishermans bend)

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc7.jpg

We all know this old girl

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc8.jpg

I guess it was a military theme... don't think he was a spotter

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc9.jpg

The 3 members of the "strike" hangar...

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc11.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc12.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc13.jpg

Bit of a queue afterwards. Not every day do I have a Hudson up my clacker when taxiing.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/pc14.jpg

j3pipercub
1st Mar 2010, 22:23
And a Ryan a few in front of you too I see...

Trojan1981
1st Mar 2010, 22:28
That P-40F is amazing considering what it looked like when it was recovered- back broken, large holes in the fuselage and wings. Great photos.

Hempy
2nd Mar 2010, 01:11
You can do anything these days with a data plate, hard work and lots of $$

Critical Reynolds No
2nd Mar 2010, 01:36
Spotted at PC. Lucky there was no security!
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/crn580/359.jpg

Joker 10
2nd Mar 2010, 22:21
They're all planes, but . . .

Starting, take off and flying with the wonderful Radial powered aircraft (an AD-6)
Radial Starting (3350 engine on an AD-6)
Be sure you drain both the sumps. (You can fill your Zippo lighter while you do this)
Look out the left side of the oily cockpit canopy and notice a very nervous person holding a huge fire bottle. Nod to this person.
Crack throttle about one-quarter of an inch.
Battery on
Mags on
Fuel boost on
Hit starter button (The four bladed 13’ 6’ prop will start a slow turn)
Begin to bounce your finger on top of the primer button.
This act requires finesse and style. It is much like a ballet performance. The engine must be seduced and caressed into starting.
Act one will begin: Belching, banging, rattling, backfiring, spluttering, flame and black smoke from the exhaust shooting out about three feet. (Fire bottle person is very pale and has the nozzle at the ready position)
When the engine begins to “catch” on the primer. Move the mixture to full rich. The flames from the exhaust will stop and white smoke will come out. (Fire bottle guy relaxes a bit) You will hear a wonderful throaty roar that is like music to the ears.
Enjoy the macho smell of engine oil, hydraulic fluid and pilot sweat.
Immediately check the oil pressure and hydraulic gages..
The entire aircraft is now shaking and shuttering from the torque of the engine and RPM of prop.
The engine is an 18 cylinder R-3350 that develops 2,700 HP.
Close cowl flaps to warm up the engine for taxi.
Once you glance around at about 300 levers, gauges and gadgets, call the tower to taxi to the duty runway.
Take off in the AD-6
1. Check both magnetos
2. Exercise the prop pitch
3. Cowl flaps open..
4. Check oil temp and pressure.
5. Crank 1.5 degrees right rudder trim to help your right leg with the torque on takeoff.
6. Tell the tower you are ready for the duty runway.
7. Line the bird up and lock the tail wheel for sure.
8. Add power slowly because the plane (with the torque of the monster prop and engine power definitely wants to go left).
9. NEVER add full power suddenly! There is not enough rudder in the entire world to hold it straight.
10. Add more power and shove in right rudder till your leg begins to tremble.
11. Expect banging, belching and an occasional manly fart as you roar down the runway at full power.
12. Lift the tail and when it “feels right” and pull back gently on the stick to get off the ground.
13. Gear up
14. Adjust the throttle for climb setting
15. Ease the prop back to climb RPM
16. Close cowl flaps and keep an eye on the cylinder head temp.
17. Adjust the power as needed as you climb higher or turn on the super charger.
Flying with the round engine.
Once your reach altitude which isn’t very high (about 8000 feet) you reduce the throttle and prop to cruise settings.
The next fun thing is to pull back the mixture control until the engine just about quits. Then ease it forward a bit and this is best mixture.
While cruising the engine sounds like it might blow or quit at any time. This keeps you occupied scanning engine gauges for the least hint of trouble.
Moving various levers around to coax a more consistent sound from the engine concentrates the mind wonderfully.
At night or over water a radial engine makes noises you have never heard before..
Looking out of the front of the cockpit the clouds are beautiful because they are slightly blurred from the oil on the cockpit canopy.
Seeing lightening the clouds ahead increases the pucker factor by about 10.
You can’t fly high enough to get over them and if you try and get under the clouds----you will die in turbulence.
You tie down everything in the cockpit that isn’t already secured, get a good grip on the stick, turn on the deicers, tighten and lock your shoulder straps and hang on.
You then have a ride to exceed any “terror” ride in any amusement park ever built. You discover the plane can actually fly sidewise while inverted.
Once through the weather, you call ATC and in a calm deep voice advise them that there is slight turbulence on your route.
You then scan you aircraft to see if all the major parts are still attached. This includes any popped rivets.
Do the controls still work? Are the gauges and levers still in proper limits?
These being done you fumble for the relief tube, because you desperately need it. (Be careful with your lower flight suit zipper)
The jet engine and aircraft
Start a jet
Fuel boost on.
Hit the start button
When the TPT starts to move ease the throttle forward.
The fire bottle person is standing at the back of the plane and has no idea what is going on.
The engine lights off---and---
That’s about it.
Take off in the jet
Lower full flaps
Tell the tower you are ready for takeoff.
Roll on to the duty runway while adding 100% power.
Tricycle gear---no tail to drag---no torque to contend with.
At some exact airspeed you lift off the runway.
Gear up
Milk up the flaps and fly.
Leave the power at 100%

Flying the jet
Climb at 100%
Cruise at 100%
It is silent in the plane.
You can’t see clouds because you are so far above them.
You look down and see lighting in some clouds below and pity some poor fool that may have to fly through that mess.
The jet plane is air conditioned!! Round engines are definitely not. If you fly in tropical areas, this cannot be stressed enough.
There is not much to do in a jet, so you eat your flight lunch at your leisure.
Few gauges to look at and no levers to adjust. This leaves you doodling on your knee board.
Some call girl friends on their cell phones: “Guess where I am etc”
Some observed differences in round engines and jets
To be a real pilot you have to fly a tail dragger for an absolute minimum of 500 hours.
Large round engines smell of gasoline (115/145), rich oil, hydraulic fluid, man sweat and are not air-conditioned.
Engine failure to the jet pilot means something is wrong with his air conditioner.
When you take off in a jet there is no noise in the cockpit. (This does not create a macho feeling of doing something manly)
Landing a jet just requires a certain airspeed and altitude---at which you cut the power and drop like a rock to the runway. Landing a round engine tail dragger requires finesse, prayer, body English, pumping of rudder pedals and a lot of nerve.
After landing, a jet just goes straight down the runway.
A radial tail dragger is like a wild mustang---it might decide to go anywhere. Gusting winds help this behavior a lot.
You cannot fill your Zippo lighter with jet fuel.
Starting a jet is like turning on a light switch---a little click and it is on.
Starting a round engine is an artistic endeavor requiring prayer (holy curse words) and sometimes meditation.
Jet engines don’t break, spill oil or catch on fire very often which leads to boredom and complacency.
The round engine may blow an oil seal ring, burst into flame, splutter for no apparent reason or just quit. This results in heightened pilot awareness at all times..
Jets smell like a kerosene lantern at a scout camp out.
Round engines smell like God intended engines to smell and the tail dragger is the way God intended for man to fly

Aye Ess
2nd Mar 2010, 22:34
Classic, Joker 10, thanks.

Aerozepplin
2nd Mar 2010, 23:21
If I've flown a tail wheel horizontal engine, and a radial nose wheel... does that combine to make me a real man?

Anyone got any skyraider photos lying around? Anyone got a skyraider lying around?

Pinky the pilot
3rd Mar 2010, 03:19
Anyone got any skyraider photos lying around? Anyone got a skyraider lying around

Saw a P 47D for sale on an internet site a while back. Fully restored and flying. Cannot remember site name unfortunately.

Pardon ignorance but what is an AD -6?

Joker 10
3rd Mar 2010, 22:23
Skyraider, or Spad

Frank Arouet
4th Mar 2010, 04:43
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr13/scud_2008/AD6Skyraider.jpg

Pinky the pilot
4th Mar 2010, 05:15
Joker 10 Thanks.:ok: Did'nt know their model designation. :O

VH-XXX
5th Mar 2010, 01:04
Credit goes to AVWEB . COM for this beauty. (sorry about the size of it, however I didn't want to change the original)

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/potw/large/potw05_1609.jpg (http://www.avweb.com/newspics/potw/large/potw05_1609.jpg)

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/potw/large/potw05_1609.jpg

PA39
5th Mar 2010, 02:33
:ooh: Thats what i call a STOL aircraft !!

Joker 10
5th Mar 2010, 06:07
Nothing beats Round Engines

Data from McDonnell Douglas Aircraft since 1920 [29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-1_Skyraider#cite_note-Francillon_Douglas_p405-28)
General characteristics

Crew: One
Length: 38 ft 10 in (11.84 m)
Wingspan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingspan): 50 ft 0¼ in (15.25 m)
Height: 15 ft 8¼ in (4.78 m)
Wing area: 400.3 ft² (37.19 m²)
Empty weight: 11,968 lb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass)) (5,429 kg)
Loaded weight: 18,106 lb (8,213 kg)
Max takeoff weight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_Takeoff_Weight): 25,000 lb (11,340 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Wright R-3350 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_R-3350)-26WA radial engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radial_engine), 2,700 hp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower) (2,000 kW)Performance

Maximum speed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_speeds#Vno): 322 mph (280 kn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_(speed)), 518 km/h) at 18,000 ft (5,500 m)
Cruise speed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_speeds#Vc): 198 mph (172 kn, 319 km/h)
Range (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_(aircraft)): 1,316 mi (1,144 nmi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautical_mile), 2,115 km)
Service ceiling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiling_(aeronautics)): 28,500 ft (8,685 m)
Rate of climb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_climb): 2,850 ft/min (14.5 m/s)
Wing loading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_loading): 45 lb/ft² (220 kg/m²)
Power/mass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-weight_ratio): 0.15 hp/lb (250 W/kg)Armament


Guns: 4 × 20 mm (0.79 in) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_mm_caliber) M2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano-Suiza_HS.404#United_States) cannon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocannon)
Other: Up to 8,000 lb (3,600 kg) of ordnance on 15 external hardpoints including bombs, torpedoes, mine dispensers, unguided rockets, or gun pods

The A-1 Skyraider received various nicknames including: "Spad" and "Super Spad" (derived from the aircraft's AD designation, its relative longevity in service and an allusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allusion) to the "Spad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9_Pour_L%27Aviation_et_ses_D%C3%A9riv%C3%A9s )" aircraft of World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I)), "Able Dog" (phonetic AD), "the Destroyer", "Hobo" (radio call sign of the USAF 1st Air Commando/1st Special Operations Squadron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Special_Operations_Squadron)), "Firefly" (a call sign of the 602nd ACS/SOS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/602d_Special_Operations_Squadron)), "Zorro" (the call sign of the 22nd SOS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22d_Special_Operations_Squadron)), "The Big Gun," "Old Faithful," "Old Miscellaneous," "Fat Face" (AD-5/A-1E version, side-by-side seating), "Guppy" (AD-5W version), "Q-Bird" (AD-1Q/AD-5Q versions), "Flying Dumptruck" (A-1E), "Sandy" (the 602nd ACS/SOS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/602d_Special_Operations_Squadron) call sign for Combat Search And Rescue helicopter escort), and "Crazy Water Buffalo" (South Vietnamese nickname).
While the Skyraider is not as iconic as some other aircraft, it has been featured in some Vietnam-era films such as The Green Berets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Berets_(film)) (1968), Flight of the Intruder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Intruder) (1991) flying as Sandy escort, and in We Were Soldiers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Were_Soldiers) (2002) in the ground support role. The Skyraider also played a computer-generated role in Werner Herzog's Rescue Dawn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_Dawn) (2007).[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-1_Skyraider#cite_note-Dengler-12) Skyraiders were also featured in the classic Korean war movie The Bridges at Toko-Ri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridges_at_Toko-Ri) (1953). A formation of U.S. Navy A-1s stood in for U.S. Army Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces) P-47s in the 1962 film The Longest Day

Related development

A2D Skyshark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A2D_Skyshark)Comparable aircraft

AM Mauler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_Mauler)
T-28 Trojan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-28_Trojan)

Brian Abraham
5th Mar 2010, 09:32
Nothing beats Round Engines
The lore of the ground pounders in SVN was nothing beats a Spad flown by the SVN Air Airforce, who had up to 10,000 hours in the Spad and the same combat time. Time on station, weapon load and accuracy (function of speed, time in the job, and hence skill).

frigatebird
5th Mar 2010, 21:01
More old wartime ord(i)nance - past its use-by date..
What you found poking around old battlefields on your days off -

Bloody Ridge in the late '70's
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0005-4.jpg http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0004-4.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0006-4.jpg http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0007-2.jpg

j3pipercub
5th Mar 2010, 23:00
Very very game lad mr frigate

kingRB
6th Mar 2010, 04:59
is the top left one a mortar round? :eek:

frigatebird
6th Mar 2010, 05:16
The boys did a great job going up there year after year cleaning it up..

nearly blew me up once, was coming back in an Islander and was one minute or two miles from joining on downwind on the coast at a thousand feet, when the mushroom cloud from the pile on the beach went up ahead of me. They were letting them go just using the flight schedule times. When I got on the ground I got the Army Demo lads to co-ordinate better with Flight Service with a two way link for the off schedule and charter flights as well.. :ok: Another time was watching a soccer match at the main ground, when we heard a bomb go off over behind the residential areas - a local on one side said 'Bomb', the one on the other side said 'Shell' - they were used to it and thought they could tell the difference.. someone had let a fire go in the long grass, which set it off.. used to happen every summer.. rarely anyone killed.


(Yes - Mortar, then there is a Shell and an American Grenade, a Shell, and a Japanese Grenade)



But.. still it does happen sometimes..

Postscript from The Solomon Star

Tuesday, 22 December 2009 13:53




THREE people were killed and two others injured in a bomb blast on Sunday in Yandina, Central Islands Province.
The incident occurred at a place called Levers Point, when the five were trying to extract powder from unexploded World War II bombs.
A Yandina resident Samani Ramo said two adults and a child were killed and two other children were critically injured and are admitted at the National Referral Hospital in Honiara.
“They set out in two canoes with fishing gears and cooking pots,” Mr Ramo said.
He said the pots were used to boil the unexploded bombs after which they would extract the powder.
He said the powder is normally brought to Honiara where it would be sold to fishermen.
“Some fishermen use the powder to make dynamite for fishing.”
Mr Ramo said they already boiled about five bombs and three were still boiling in a pot when the incident occurred.
“It was a separate bomb that suddenly detonated when one of them was fiddling with it.”
He said the blast ripped through the three, cutting off hands and legs.
The five are originally from North Malaita.

Jabawocky
6th Mar 2010, 11:48
used to happen every summer.. rarely anyone killed.


Well thats all right then! :ok:

You are a lucky boke! :eek:

ForkTailedDrKiller
6th Mar 2010, 11:53
Airport security seems a bit lax here.

Not an ASIC in sight!

Dr :8

1xRqJFiltIA

frigatebird
6th Mar 2010, 12:11
You could use a sign there that says 'Brahman Crossing', Doc.
Landed at 'Glencoe' west of the Towers a few years ago, and had to do the same thing for the deer.. and they were in bigger mobs..

p.s. Got a bad case of cows..t in the wheelwells of a 36 once at Monduran after the cattle had been on the strip overnight. It was dry and hard to remove at Rocky later..

Peter Fanelli
7th Mar 2010, 12:14
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s295/bigt57/e6uer5yest5restresd.jpg

Looks like a bit of flap asymmetry there, or does it have flaperons?


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s295/bigt57/Duckwing.jpg

What are you looking at?

capson
9th Mar 2010, 00:24
Belly of the BEAST.....:ok:

YouTube - The Belly of the Beast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSEogZ3upY)

Mr Bomb
9th Mar 2010, 03:10
frigatebird,
That doesn't look like any ordinance:ugh: I have ever seen, and I should know! If you want to see an ordinance please go visit your local council. On the other hand they are good examples of ordnance:ok: (Sorry one of my pet peeves is when people mistake a piece of paper/rule for an item of explosive. Newspapers do it all the time).

Now I have that off my chest here is some aeroplane photos, of a Spad (albeit electronic warfare one) from Sun-n-fun. Would make the ideal family airborne station wagon I reckon. Lots of seats for the whole family plus all the ordnance you need to deal with pesky neighbors who complain about noise:E! Those who do not like the sound of round simply just don't get it!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/020Skyraider.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/035Skyraider.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/066NavyHeritageFlight.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/080Skyraider.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/151Skyraider.jpg

(Yes the lens was dirty!)

Cheers
Mr B

Mr Bomb
9th Mar 2010, 03:25
BTW the "shells" are actually mortars as well. Fired from a small man-portable mortar tube that has a shroud or plate that fits on the knee. It is only a short range mortar, a couple of hundred yards, otherwise it would hurt thy knee a little too much!

Cheers
Mr B.

frigatebird
9th Mar 2010, 09:18
Thanks for the finer points of ordinance versus ordnance, Bomb. I shall take the "i" out of the word in future. Please reciprocate and oblige with the plural "are", instead of the singular "is" when describing some aeroplane photos :)
You haven't been to the Solomons have you ? There are still ongoing needs for visits, - preferably from Bomb Disposal teams from the previous combatants who littered the place originally.

Jabawocky
9th Mar 2010, 10:11
OK here is a guess where..........

http://i1.bebo.com/051b/0/large/2010/03/09/11/4525920200a12295689024l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/051b/9/large/2010/03/09/11/4525920200a12295689039l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/050b/19/large/2010/03/09/11/4525920200a12295689053l.jpg

Ok this one might give the game away!
http://i1.bebo.com/050b/10/large/2010/03/09/11/4525920200a12295689069l.jpg

J:ok:

megle2
9th Mar 2010, 10:52
Looks like that town with the council owned hotel!
And designed by the same chap who put CB on the map by memory

ForkTailedDrKiller
9th Mar 2010, 11:05
An interesting way to get the cows in!

Dr :8

xtze_bBdkt0

Mr Bomb
9th Mar 2010, 16:37
frigatebird, Touche! (Don't know how to put the mark above the e so please don't get me for that too!)

No, not been to the Solomons, but have been to other islands in the Pacific (as well as other favourite :rolleyes:). Suffice to say any island (or other landmass) that had any fighting on it or for it is littered with UXO (unexploded ordnance) from WWII. We were not very good at cleaning up after ourselves at the end of wars. Mind you it is an astronomical job to clean this stuff up and it is simply too big to actually go looking for it. We simply do not have enough trained people to do it (and by this I mean in the world - not just Aus). Thus we just wait for them to "surface" and then go and deal with them. All I can say is if you do see this stuff, DO NOT TOUCH IT. Just mark the position with your trusty GPS and inform the authorities. Too many people get injured or killed each year from UXO.

I have a very good mate in Belgium who is also an EOD Technician (Explosive Ordnance Disposal) and he sends photos of the "iron harvest" each year where their farmers plough their fields prior to sowing and bring up ordnance from WWI still! They just stockpile it and use it as fences and my mate comes along with his team and either picks the stuff up if safe, or disposes of it on site. There is no shortage of work...

Bombs still turn up in Britain every now and then when holes are dug for new foundations.

Cheers
Mr B.

frigatebird
9th Mar 2010, 21:43
Old brochure photos
Not me..
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0006-5.jpg

Or me..
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0005-5.jpg

(although I do have an unused float endorsement..)

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0001-8.jpg

chimbu warrior
10th Mar 2010, 03:08
Hmmmmmmmm, looks remarkably like PC, who flew the duck.

Desert Flower
10th Mar 2010, 07:20
An interesting way to get the cows in!

Well it possibly would be if we could see the picture!

DF.

ForkTailedDrKiller
10th Mar 2010, 07:37
Well it possibly would be if we could see the picture!

Technical problems - all fixed now!

Dr :8

ciscodiscocisco
10th Mar 2010, 11:22
About that Toe Limit hahaha it wasnt by any chance a red head with freckles???

And also i saw that plane in camden and there was a massive spider inside one of the wheels i free ked out:eek:

tinpis
14th Mar 2010, 20:13
Any of these here>

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/1/5/0608513.jpg

Wanderin_dave
14th Mar 2010, 21:25
Yep, there's at least one Tinny. Last year i saw one parked at Riddell. Tundra tyres and all, in beautiful nick :ok:

uncle8
15th Mar 2010, 00:51
There are at least 7 Huskies registered in Australia. On the CASA register, some are shown as manufactured by White International Inc., some by Christen and the very latest model by Sky International. Maybe some by Aviat.

Pilotette
15th Mar 2010, 04:00
Tinny..I saw one at Parafield the other day sans wings and engine cowling, it had been pulled out of a hanger into the carpark (was an interesting sight) and by the time I grabbed my camera it was back locked up safely inside :( Looks like its being restored slowly..hope so! :ok:

djpil
15th Mar 2010, 11:12
uncle - the Type Certificate was owned by White International (after Christen) with Malcolm White also owning Aviat Inc which was the factory operation. Stu Horn then took over with the TC being held by Sky International and the factory operation now called Aviat Aircraft Inc.

The Husky is a good second aeroplane.

uncle8
16th Mar 2010, 01:33
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz330/uncle8/DSCN0948.jpg
Thanks DJ, here is an A-1

j3pipercub
16th Mar 2010, 02:17
In her new home I see...makes a change from the tropics

frigatebird
17th Mar 2010, 05:57
50 Years Ago (from Flying)

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0010-1.jpg

33 Years Ago (in Aus.)

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0004.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0005.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0006.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0007.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0008.jpg

Jabawocky
17th Mar 2010, 06:12
Is that you in the Queenie shots FB?

Nice pics!:ok:

The tail on them looks like a C185 rip off....or is it the other way around?:}

frigatebird
17th Mar 2010, 06:24
The earliest ones had the straight tails. The later ones got a swept fin and an increased gross weight. That was the one Jack Brabham used when he was Formula One racing in Europe in his heyday. Mary -Lou had been a Qantas hostess before working with us.

kingRB
17th Mar 2010, 07:35
looks like socks back in those days were serious business

slamer.
17th Mar 2010, 07:50
WW11 fashion still alive and well in Queensland 35 years after the war....? (are they still wearing them there....:eek:)

Tmbstory
17th Mar 2010, 08:21
Frigatebird:

I enjoyed the photos, many a good memory of the Queen Airs, did more than 1600 hours in them.

Tmb

wombat watcher
17th Mar 2010, 10:33
All well dressed commuter/charter pilots wore that rig except that if it was far enough north or far enough west the tie around the neck was an optional extra attracting the ridicule of the locals.
The shorts were modelled, in length anyway, on the tight pants VFL players wore, or it seemed that way anyway.:sad:
From my re-collection TAA had the swept tail Queenairs in use in Tassie in RPT which later were deployed in Qld to replace the Drovers circa late 1960's.....rego TGA etc. TAA had their pilots on secondment and were responsible for licencing. I well remember a TAA F27 Captain who officially moonlighted as the Queenair check pilot for the RFDS.

The Green Goblin
17th Mar 2010, 10:57
Is it just me or did people wear their pants waaaaay higher above their waist in the 'olden days'?

Jabawocky
17th Mar 2010, 11:25
No.....just some morons seem to have trouble getting their shorts up above their "plumbers crack"

Now FB....come on, fess up, which one is you? ;)

frigatebird
17th Mar 2010, 22:07
Jaba, - someone has to take the photos to record 'history in the making'..

If you know Guy, who found me yesterday, he'll tell you.. (maybe..)

40Deg STH
17th Mar 2010, 22:37
FB, you are doing a wonderful job of posting pictures here we all love to see. I loved flying around the islands, although you appear to have spent a lot more time than I.
How is Wilson. W in Honiara?

Keep em coming.:ok:

I'm in need of some Fiji Gold and a good night out in Martintar!!

Jamair
18th Mar 2010, 00:40
Hey Jaba, do yourself a favour and get a copy of FBs PNG DVDs; I've been glued to the computer for the past week working through his pix & home movie collection (and its not even porn!:E). Bloody fascinating and amazing stuff. Thanks again FB!!:ok:

Jabawocky
18th Mar 2010, 01:00
I reckon I have those DVD's and I really appreciate them. Tried to phone the chap who sent them to me to thank him, but nobody was home. If its FB, well thank you mate!:ok:

frigatebird
18th Mar 2010, 05:14
Not TOO many hours PNG, for this FB. Some, thats all, but would like to get back up that way again.. Did about 13,000 hours, or two thirds of my twin time in a decade and a half round the Islands....

40 S - If you mean Wilson Willi.., he hasn't flown for a long time - runs shops and flys up and down to Aus a fair bit.. Then there was Wilson Mal..., the footballer, and Wilson Ne., both Travel men.

Further east, Faleolo - Samoa

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Fiji/scan0003-3.jpg

Tyre change in Fiji

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Fiji/scan0001-5.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Fiji/scan0002-3.jpg

Rhodesia77
18th Mar 2010, 06:37
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2570/3748739784_bd701ed5ab.jpg (http://www.pprune.org/%3Ca%20href=)




http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/3748738662_f5f9b65de6.jpg


Woo hoo I got it working.

Now for some more:ok:http://www.me.com/gallery/#100040/Final%2021http://www.me.com/gallery/#100040/IMG_0297


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4442791044_b5d0858ca0.jpg



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4442011795_101f177e5d_o.jpg



http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4442790968_1bfcd5fd4f_o.jpg



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2723/4442011669_e38242cc95_o.jpg



http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4442011179_862e0ff248.jpg


On the way home today.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4442011625_d2a6ed2e8d.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2609/3748739412_98fc82dc00.jpg


I love Aircraft:ok:








http://www.flickr.com/photos/37059678@N06/3748739784/

Rhodesia77
18th Mar 2010, 09:01
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4442917156_26e1f33de4.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4442913466_d804ee9a35.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4442135321_7a685723d3.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4442134959_c12202f642.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4442912140_25cbac0076.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4442133681_7b5d031514.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4442131991_0199f3cd01.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/4442129349_a2bfeb525a.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4442125497_a6e37c4a3b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4442902200_7422dd6d04.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4442123447_2e217c490d.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4442122623_eb446ebbc3.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4442896416_2036aafca0.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2791/4442895108_ab567599b1.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4442890790_44946efc5e.jpg

ForkTailedDrKiller
18th Mar 2010, 10:11
NZAF on their way to attack some unsuspecting Pacific atol!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4442917156_26e1f33de4.jpg

morno
18th Mar 2010, 10:33
Forkie that's what you call extreme airpower there, :ok::ok:.

I dare say it may even be all the pilots that the RNZAF has left as well, :}.

morno

40Deg STH
18th Mar 2010, 10:41
FB,

I love your pictures. I would love to sit down with a beer or 2 and hear your stories and see your amazing pictures.
Yes, the 1st Wilson was correct. I met him when he was just learning to fly, although I have heard it was not his ideal career:E
I was at FJ on the 737 and loved it and still stay intouch with many good friends from there. A great airline full of wonderful pilots. Maybe not PH:E
Its so good to see a person who has documented flying so well. I wish I had.
Well done

frigatebird
18th Mar 2010, 10:43
Verry nice Rho. Love the unusual angle shots of the intakes (with the man in there), and the twin jet exhausts..

Jamair
18th Mar 2010, 15:18
God I'm dumb some days - must be the late nights! :ugh:

Twas SIXTIESRELIC that kindly sent me his pix collection, not FB. SORRY mate! :{

Rhodesia77
18th Mar 2010, 18:21
Well thank you frigatebird:O.
More on te way soon;)

FTDK- Here are a couple that'll make you laugh.

YouTube - Australia - Invade New Zealand Tv Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RenRILqwhJs)

YouTube - Jet Pilot music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BzU1sYPjzo)

:ok::ok:

Trojan1981
19th Mar 2010, 01:35
NZAF on their way to attack some unsuspecting Pacific atol!
:D:D:D:}

Nice Photos Rhodesia:ok:

frigatebird
19th Mar 2010, 06:37
eastern Marovo Lagoon, Sege airstrip in bottom right corner

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0009-1.jpg

The prettiest and smartest girls (the last ones in..)

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Early%20Whitaker%20Aircraft/scan0016.jpg

got to sit in the front seat of the Barons..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0014-1.jpg

What would have been better than a Baron, when searching for drifting canoes with a broken outboard motor and no paddles..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Fiji/scan0004-3.jpg

French Navy Maritime Surveillance 'Guardian', from New Caledonia photographed at Nausori, Fiji.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Fiji/scan0005-3.jpg

Rhodesia77
19th Mar 2010, 10:11
Cheers T-1981:ok:

frigatebird
20th Mar 2010, 05:53
Rhodesia - thats an interesting handle - we have an instructor here, Russell, who did his National Service there. Must ask if he has any from then..
Looking forward to more crystal clear shots, instead of my 20 and 30 year old, bottom-of-the-navbag-disposable-compact-with-the-poor-lens, ones..

Rhodesia77
20th Mar 2010, 06:43
FB, I was born (1977) and raised out in Rhodesia moved over to the UK once the old country went belly up but never found the Northern Hemisphere a home so I shipped out to Aus and now have made my home here in Godszone. :O
Any way enough of that, I'm loving all the pics on here and the more nostalgic the better the more of a story behind it:ok:
I've been sent a load of pics from my Uncle and his oppo's from the civil war days, I'll ask if I can post them up here.

skywagondriver
20th Mar 2010, 09:33
Hi Frigate - just keep yours coming!!!:)

frigatebird
20th Mar 2010, 09:58
Why thank you sir..
There are a couple of interesting ones in the hanger that I will get shots of eventually - Jim's C180 from PNG, a P2 Bandit, the Broussard, and the trainer from the Sols that was originally meant to train their local pilots til the scheme went t...-up..

Independance Day 1980 New Hebrides becomes Vanuatu

The first time the new flag was run up the pole in Port Vila
Australian Orion doing the Fly-by

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Vanuatu/scan0004-2.jpg

A year or three later at Munda in the Western Sols

Lawrence Kibule in the white shirt, the agent, was a small boy during the Japanese occupation, and still spoke a little Japanese to the visiting Tuna Fishery passengers. Saepeo, his understudy in the centre with the orange shirt, is the agent now, since Lawrence retired. Great guys all.
The International Terminal for the connections to Kieta, was a GI Nissan hut raised on stilts. The coral surface of the taxiway and runway were laid down by the Japanese and American combatants - you can still see the grooves how it was left at the end of construction. Hard as concrete, but would pothole with heavy traffic, - from motor transport mainly.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0007-4.jpg

coconut99
20th Mar 2010, 10:52
Frigatebird,

As a pilot who once flew in the South Pacific not too many moons ago, I always look forward to your contribution here. Do you have any more on Fiji? :)

Great stuff mate, cheers :ok:

frigatebird
20th Mar 2010, 11:04
coco
can't remember now, if I have put this one on before - or not..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Fiji/scan0002-1.jpg

descol
20th Mar 2010, 11:32
Funafuti posted before - elsewhere .
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/AMI748.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/FAHERON.jpg

frigatebird
21st Mar 2010, 00:09
Well, better put another aircraft up.. (Hope someone else does too - with a bit of commentary, or I'll feel that I'm hogging the thread)

Covered up when I scanned this one a while ago, coz i was shy then.. am over that now..

Stores run with the perishables (bread, ice cream, mail, passengers etc., the fuel went by barge and truck) when the lighthouse at Sandy Cape on the top end of Fraser Island was manned. (automatic now) The Head Keeper would go down in his Hilux and run the beach, and cut a a few turns at each end to mark the thresholds, of the best section. From half tide out until half tide in again, we would either use the western side beach under the Light, or the eastern ocean swell side, whichever was best. If I can get something to convert my slides from the other camera to files can go back earlier when we used the 182 and Cherokee 6's to Fraser.
The lad along for the run that day is all grown now, and just went back to Europe after working in the Media Centre at the Winter Olympics.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/BN2/scan0001-1.jpg

my control
21st Mar 2010, 21:25
Descol,
Did you work for AMI?

descol
22nd Mar 2010, 07:36
My Control
G'day
I did not work for AMI - was based in British Embassy in Fiji for many years and travelled the AMI route at least once a month - mostly in the 748 - now and again in the Dornier - and just before I left the Pacific in 1997 in the AMI Saab 2000
Rgds
Des

frigatebird
22nd Mar 2010, 11:46
Well, seems I've used the allowance.. Just got a message from Photobucket saying I was up to 70%, so thought it was good for a couple more, .. but no.. Strange they have left the odd one up, must be teasers. You don't know your limits until you push them - that would have to be an athletes motto..
And had just bought a slide scanner today, so I could go back through my original slides from back in the Territory and when starting flying.. Its supposed to reset in 3 weeks time. Have already deleted a few non-aviation ones in the Album but that didn't make any difference here.. Can sit back and watch others now between doing other things - best thing to cure an addiction.. ;)

ozaggie
22nd Mar 2010, 12:37
Frig, come back soon. We miss you....

frigatebird
22nd Mar 2010, 13:16
Ozaggie (and anyone else who is interested)
Havn't anything to hide - so instead of doleing them out one-at-a-time, if you are interested, you may be able to see them all that are presently posted in Photobucket at Pictures by bird__photo - Photobucket (http://s784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo)
Most have captions and if you click and enlarge, sometimes there is a description or story there too.
Will be adding more later when the slides are on the hard drive.
Be warned - Taken at different times, with different cameras, by an 'amateur', some are pretty poor quality now and haven't had the benefit of a technological 'facelift'. There are some sub-albums, but not many. Cheers frigate

PyroTek
22nd Mar 2010, 13:23
Is that lady elliot, FB ("nesting area")? I used to go there as a kid (a couple of times between 1993 and 2000) and spend my whole time on the airstrip, Got a tour of a Caravan once. Was great! - We went over in the twotter, - was also shown the Nomad and Islander.
Good times, had the bug since i was about 4 years old! :ok:

Aye Ess
22nd Mar 2010, 21:38
OK,Frigate,you start getting the slides scanned & the rest of us will wait 3 weeks til you are back.

Now,a word to all you young Pprunners...put a camera in your nav bag. Take plenty of piccys,however mundane,because in 30 years time they will be of enormous interest to Ppruners who haven't even been born yet!

Pinky the pilot
23rd Mar 2010, 03:32
Now,a word to all you young Pprunners...put a camera in your nav bag. Take plenty of piccys,however mundane,because in 30 years time they will be of enormous interest to Ppruners who haven't even been born yet!

Indeed Aye Ess. I bitterly regret not having a camera during my latter time in PNG. Many times I 'thought about' buying an el-cheapo to throw into my flight bag, but 'think about' it was all I ever did.:{

Aye Ess
23rd Mar 2010, 04:38
Yes,pinky,I speak also from regret at not recording the the amazing charters,strange cargo,unusual sights,spectacular met events.

But also the the refueling in freezing rain,the flat featureless horizons of an outback airfield,grumpy engineers slumped over a hot engine.

Cameras now being digital,there is no concern about the cost of film,so go forth Ppruners & record everything.

Chimbu chuckles
23rd Mar 2010, 08:34
Well the lunacy continues:ok:

In my absence the boys have been busy making a direct and premeditated assault on the bank balance.

Rear lower skin in place.
http://www.fototime.com/{85FBB267-CCA0-4E82-8494-C024D6BF70F9}/origpict/aft%20fuselage%202.JPG

Roof is finished
http://www.fototime.com/{C23445F5-5566-49CC-9CAE-34DCD0D484F4}/origpict/EZU%20fwd%20roof%202.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/{A3D6E64B-D24F-446B-B4B2-F371A9A8B4FF}/origpict/EZU%20inside%20fwd%20roof.JPG

A bunch of old bits cleaned, etched and ready to go back on
http://www.fototime.com/{1A4336BF-5321-4896-8F91-91178B8C8A4A}/origpict/bits%20ready%20to%20go%20back%20on.jpg

Some old skins cleaned etc and some new skins manufactured (the small ones)
http://www.fototime.com/{64B15F22-1ED3-4D87-80BD-F6AB6BD18313}/origpict/EZU%20stbd%20fwd%20fuselage%20skins.jpg

They will go on here - the one with all the clecos is an old skin cleaned and etched.
http://www.fototime.com/{A52342A8-2C80-4D35-B60F-F5F2C21BAD2B}/origpict/EZU%20STBD%20fwd%20fuselage.jpg

Rudder pedal assemblies cleaned and ready to go back in - in fact the co-pilot ones are already back in.
http://www.fototime.com/{3206643D-442B-4F40-8E15-7C8AF64B9743}/origpict/EZU%20Rudder%20pedals.jpg

A little before and after action.

Before - lots of corrosion, particularly in the top right area but more you cant see.
http://www.fototime.com/{CE5E4556-5066-421E-97A3-BDA6C9575FA8}/origpict/EZU%20STBD%20cabin%20skin.jpg

After - none.
http://www.fototime.com/{847329E8-1F61-4B57-BBEB-95D0738B266F}/origpict/Inside%20stbd%20fuse.jpg

The cowling doors are fitted and rigged too.

http://www.fototime.com/{194DDF6B-9FB4-49A2-A425-53C6A8D99E29}/origpict/DSCN7294.JPG

Flying Binghi
23rd Mar 2010, 08:44
Holy **** CC ... you'll be flyin drugs for the next ten years just to pay for it all ....:}



.

Shredder6
23rd Mar 2010, 08:44
Nice one...!

...But what is it?

Chimbu chuckles
23rd Mar 2010, 08:49
Now there is a thought - thanks FB:ok:

What is it?

An obsession:ouch:

ForkTailedDrKiller
23rd Mar 2010, 08:54
What is it?


An albatross? :E

Dr :8

OZBUSDRIVER
23rd Mar 2010, 08:58
Does it come with waffers?

Chimbu chuckles
23rd Mar 2010, 08:59
Cretin:hmm:

You'll be singing a different tune when I am stood there with the keys and you wanna fly it - might even happen while you still have a medical:E

For the heathen on the last page who asked what it is - the green bits are a 2010 A36 Bonanza - the rest is a 1970 A36 Bonanza;)

morno
23rd Mar 2010, 09:35
So by the time it's finished, it'll be a 2008 (started then didn't you Chuck?) to 2030 model Bonanza, on a 1976 frame, :}.

Looking more like an aircraft every day though, good job. What fancy gadgets are going to go in the front?

morno

ForkTailedDrKiller
23rd Mar 2010, 09:43
What fancy gadgets are going to go in the front?

Grandpa Aerotart! A fancy gadget? Haha!

Hard to see!

Dr :8

morno
23rd Mar 2010, 09:51
Ok Dr, I'll be a little more specific, :E.

What fancy gadgets that were around in 1980 are going in it? :}

Chimbu chuckles
23rd Mar 2010, 10:26
Where would you possibly get the impression I will be able to afford gadgets when this madness is finished?:}

I did the gadget spending 6 years ago - replaced the 1970 original King crap with a new G340/OHC KLN90b/KX155 and a new ICOM 2nd VHF. I have to buy a G496 because my 'mate' the good Dr bought me a special Bonanza G496 mount - some mate hey?:E

http://www.fototime.com/{02974A8A-777B-41DC-A7D7-FEEB33228D76}/origpict/EZU%20Panel%202.jpg

I am perfectly happy with my Century 3 A/P so its just getting overhauled for about 10% of the cost of one of them fancy digital units which actually dont fly the aeroplane much better.

Other than that I am just going to pull the panel out, spruce it up/paint it, clean up any suss wiring and put everything back in an eye pleasing manner.

If I win the lotto I might throw in an ASPEN1000 Pro.:ok:

CharlieLimaX-Ray
26th Mar 2010, 05:31
No GFC in your neck of the woods then CC, or is the owner of the engineering shop retiring soon?

Flies, floats or fornicates rent it.

Chimbu chuckles
26th Mar 2010, 06:50
is the owner of the engineering shop retiring soon?

I hope not - this is a long term project - coming up 3 yrs now.

Well I agree about floats or fornicates.:ok:

As vices go I have heard of worse:hmm:

Arnold E
26th Mar 2010, 08:48
Out of interest CC, Who is doing the Century 3?
By the way, I agree old A/P's are OK

PA39
28th Mar 2010, 09:03
:\ I hope its not that old dick brain from caloundra doing your A/p work.....look out !!!!!

Chimbu chuckles
28th Mar 2010, 09:23
No - someone at YBAF- when I get around to it - came highly recommended by a mate with an early Century A/P.

chimbu warrior
28th Mar 2010, 23:36
Ok, first go at this image posting, but will give it a try.........

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/PNG/3-28-2010_003.jpg?t=1269819113

My favourite Baron.

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Floatplanes/3-23-2010_226.jpg?t=1270082888

Would love to play in one of these.

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Oddities/3-23-2010_221.jpg?t=1270082976

Remember this?

chimbu warrior
29th Mar 2010, 09:15
Another couple from around the Pacific.

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Oddities/3-23-2010_364.jpg?t=1269853926

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Oddities/P8120009.jpg?t=1270083277

frigatebird
29th Mar 2010, 11:00
Chimbu W..
You're on a roll.. Just for my 17 inch screen tho. the Big ones are just a little big, but the small ones Way-Too-Small..
Took a couple from inside that Widgeon on the way to, and on the water at Princess Charlotte Bay, out of Cairns a while back. Was a great flight riding along on a day off from another job. :ok:

ARENDIII
30th Mar 2010, 20:32
Old 727? Good hard working machine!
Just too fuel thirsty for the bean conters! Sure can get the job done!
Happy and safe flying! If you fly that you are good-got 1000 hrs on that, loved every second of it !!!
Arend III.

chimbu warrior
30th Mar 2010, 21:14
Sadly I don't fly it. Never got my hands on a 727, but loved riding in them. :ok:

Chimbu chuckles
31st Mar 2010, 08:16
http://www.fototime.com/{3D6F8CC2-8994-41AE-BE23-3C182210C78A}/origpict/3-23-2010_168.JPG

j3pipercub
31st Mar 2010, 08:25
Very Pretty Chuck...

Chimbu chuckles
31st Mar 2010, 08:35
Just helping my wantok Chimbu Warrior nut out how to post pics that don't come out the size of thumbnails - not my pic although I used to fly the tuned up version, Falcon 200, that is a Falcon 20.

By George
31st Mar 2010, 08:44
The 727 VH-RMN in Poly colours was the last of the straight 200's in pax configuration with Ansett and also appeared in East West Colours for a short while. The other Ansett 727's were 'LR' versions with the increased t/off wt to 89,358kg. (RMN was 86,409kg). With the same engines the straight 200 was nicer to fly and for some reason easier to land. A beautiful aeoplane in every way, a true thoroughbred. Thanks for the photo.

zlin77
31st Mar 2010, 10:18
VH-RMN was given a total interior revamp about 6 months before Ansett disposed of the old girl, nifty flip down LCD screens for pax entertainment, sadly it wasn't around long enough for many to enjoy the benefits!

chimbu warrior
31st Mar 2010, 22:11
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Falcons/3-25-2010_037.jpg?t=1270073309

Still having size issues, but here is another one from the craftsmen at Avions Marcel Dassault.

chimbu warrior
1st Apr 2010, 00:33
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Turboprops/3-23-2010_355.jpg?t=1270081801

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Turboprops/3-25-2010_088.jpg?t=1270081900

Another couple from the past.

I think I'm getting the hang of it Chuck........:ok:

Peter Fanelli
1st Apr 2010, 01:02
Anyone care to line up their fag PC12 against the Cheyenne 400?

Trojan1981
1st Apr 2010, 02:28
What a beast!:ok:

j3pipercub
1st Apr 2010, 03:30
Well, if you feel the need to compare prop sizes, what's that saying Peter :}

kimwestt
2nd Apr 2010, 00:31
Hey PF yeah, but only if:
1) they were both max pax,
2) SY to AS, and
3) the current one around the traps is out of the hangar!!!!!!!!!!
:):ok:

FlygirlAus
2nd Apr 2010, 02:54
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v339/187/121/857859695/n857859695_630751_3284.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=630752&id=857859695)

PA39
2nd Apr 2010, 03:20
Hey Chimbu, who owned or operated Lord Howe Island Airlines ? Flew with Brian Peels Oxleys (later Impulse) and knew Greenies doomed Kentia, but can't recall this one. Thanks.

Capt Fathom
2nd Apr 2010, 06:31
VH-IBF and IBC were originally operated(owned) by Norfolk Island Airlines.

In that photo, IBF is probably in the hands of Seaview Air.

chimbu warrior
2nd Apr 2010, 09:31
Lord Howe Island Airlines was a division of Norfolk Island Airlines.

Picture was taken 22 years ago.

CharlieLimaX-Ray
3rd Apr 2010, 06:54
Cheyenne 400 is certainly very impressive, Pacific Aviation and Piper bought one to Australia in 1988 for demo flights.

Would like to see a Conquest with the bigger engine's and a Cheyenne 400 go head to head.

PA39
3rd Apr 2010, 23:02
One up for grabs in the Trader, page 36. Beautiful machine.

skywagondriver
4th Apr 2010, 12:36
Nice photo...post some more.

chimbu warrior
4th Apr 2010, 21:43
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Oddities/3-23-2010_219.jpg?t=1270417212

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Oddities/3-25-2010_028.jpg?t=1270417310

I think there is only one F27 left flying in Oz now, on survey duties.

Peter Fanelli
4th Apr 2010, 22:49
Oct 10th 1983 was the last time I was on a Fokker, Adelaide to smashed mountain.
Airlines of SA.

Towering Q
5th Apr 2010, 00:38
Just for you Mr Fanelli...

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k176/towering_q/Photo310.jpg

RFDS Westops latest NG arriving in Port Hedland from Bali.

Customs busy checking the boys Swiss chocky collection.:ok:

V1OOPS
5th Apr 2010, 01:18
FB, got the Victa snaps, but unfortunately most if not all of your contributions on the previous pages are replaced in my browser by a Photobucket Bandwidth Exceeded gif. I don't see anyone else complaining about this though it's a common complaint on many shared image websites according to Google who sadly didn't offer an appropriate solution. So I'm not sure if it's my browser (Firefox with add-ons) or my basic Photobucket account to blame, or if it's your Photobucket account that's locked me (and others?) out.

Or if you and your snaps are just too popular ;)

[Update - some of the recent Victa pics are vanishing now! Bit like people fading out of photos in a Back to the Future!]

Towering Q
5th Apr 2010, 02:49
I don't think it's your browser V1OOPS, I'm seeing it too.

Looks like frigatebird has Photobucket issues.

Jamair
5th Apr 2010, 04:04
Those pix are ok on my PC.... Thanks Frigatebird! Gotta love the CASA approved paint shop complete with self-contained Level 3 respiratory protection..:}

The last F27 which was on Navy Lithographic survey duties based ex-CS is gone, replaced in that role by a Dash 8.

What did you have stashed in the aircon intake of the PC12 Towering Q?? (or is just an access hatch on that model?)

kirkpatd
5th Apr 2010, 04:25
Used to belong to Paul Terry (Group). A West Australian entrepaneur, eventuelly traded it on a Cessna Citation V. Poor fellow killed himself in Hawaii whilst going solo in a Robinson R22 helicopter many years ago.

frigatebird
5th Apr 2010, 05:07
V1
Would appear fom the Photobucket statistics that the Bandwidth allocated has been exceeded. Presume that is viewing demand, as am nowhere near the storage limit allowed. If it doesn't reset in a week or fortnights time, will have to take the old posts off or upgrade to Pro. My interpretation of bandwith is like the difference in speed and capacity between the old dial-up internet access, and the higher volume/speed broadband access. When it reached a certain bandwidth access trigger with Photobucket it shut down for the old posts. Wasn't o.k. yet for these trial new posts either.

Jamair
You seem to be confusing what enthusiasts did 40 years ago re the painting, and present day regulatory requirements..

Chimbu chuckles
5th Apr 2010, 05:29
I use fototime and never have these issues.

Towering Q
5th Apr 2010, 07:08
What did you have stashed in the aircon intake of the PC12 Towering Q?? (or is just an access hatch on that model?)

Access hatch, or Hell Hole, as some refer to it.

Access to Batteries, oxygen bottles and air con.

The customs guy stuck his head up there, waved a torch around and reappeared relatively happy.

YBMK Tower
5th Apr 2010, 07:09
Jamair, ex Navy LADS VH-EWP now owned by FUGRO.

jbr76
5th Apr 2010, 08:54
I have just spent the last few days reading all three hundred and thirty odd pages of this thread and have to say that it has been extremely entertaining visually, as well as mentally.

Chuckles - Your stories on PNG have me inspired - I have the utmost respect for all you ex PNG drivers. You certainly paint an envious picture into a rookies mind.

Id love to catch up one day for a yarn :ok:

chimbu warrior
5th Apr 2010, 09:30
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Floatplanes/3-28-2010_017.jpg?t=1270459640

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/Floatplanes/4-1-2010_003.jpg?t=1270459734

I've always loved floatplanes. :ok:

ForkTailedDrKiller
5th Apr 2010, 09:42
Chuckles - Your stories on PNG have me inspired - I have the utmost respect for all you ex PNG drivers. You certainly paint an envious picture into a rookies mind.

Id love to catch up one day for a yarn http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


Beer is an effective attractant!

Dr :8

PS: Oh, and he is attracted to aeroplanes!

jbr76
5th Apr 2010, 09:50
Beer is an effective attractant!

lols ..

Beer - The most widely accepted form of currency anywhere worldwide :E

Trojan1981
6th Apr 2010, 00:25
Jamair, ex Navy LADS VH-EWP now owned by FUGRO.

Who did the Hydrographic survey work for the Navy? Was it Fugro?

jbr76
6th Apr 2010, 06:02
A friend has allowed me to post his image of some contrails to the S/SW of Wycheproof, VIC a couple of weeks ago.

Going by that image I would be almost certain to say that I can see a standard holding pattern with 3 orbits? - Well photographed I say :ok:

http://wildweather.250x.com/temp/contrail.jpg

Jabawocky
7th Apr 2010, 11:33
Not posting my sector entry today :oh:

Ok here are some pics....what a wonderful part of the world, if a bit cold!

Special plug for the YMHB and YMLT tower folks, your extra help with security cars, ATC.... you know who you are, you guys make flying a pleasure! :D

http://i1.bebo.com/050b/12/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986593l.jpg
http://i1.bebo.com/050b/18/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986609l.jpg

And this was a ripper of a shot.....
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/1/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986641l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/051b/2/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986658l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/050b/20/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986686l.jpg

Jabawocky
7th Apr 2010, 11:35
OK back to airborne pics..........only had about 5 minutes out of an hour visual :uhoh:
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/3/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986705l.jpg
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/20/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986729l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/051b/20/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986754l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/052b/5/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986773l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/050b/11/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986796l.jpg

http://i1.bebo.com/050b/21/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986824l.jpg

And ...well thats where they parked me....so a nose to nose pic was in order! Hope old mate (lady) is gently as she turns late tonight:uhoh:
http://i1.bebo.com/050b/5/large/2010/04/07/11/4525920200a12393986854l.jpg

J:ok:

slackie
10th Apr 2010, 01:21
.....and a couple from Easter "down south"
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0bURElN6sjs/S7xOgTml3XI/AAAAAAAABY8/lmVeFWB97TQ/s720/DSC09889.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0bURElN6sjs/S7xOizZr9DI/AAAAAAAABZE/42Rtcke4p4Y/s720/DSC00011.JPG
Some visitors from across the ditch

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0bURElN6sjs/S7xOynQcniI/AAAAAAAABZg/P-O4I5Jd1mY/s512/DSC00047.JPG
Love those pyros!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_0bURElN6sjs/S7xO2uUzUaI/AAAAAAAABZo/Z6hqTLEIg24/s720/DSC09657.JPG
Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts!! And stop moving about the aircraft!!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_0bURElN6sjs/S7xPAVaMhsI/AAAAAAAABZ4/RTT8YqKtc00/s720/DSC09718.JPG
Unfair race really ; )

VH-XXX
10th Apr 2010, 11:45
From the XXX archives.

JxDJNaKpPag

maverick22
10th Apr 2010, 12:07
That thing's just all noise! (sounds awesome though) Looks like its got the same performance as a stock standard Toyota Hiace

VH-XXX
10th Apr 2010, 13:18
Deeper into the archives, many years ago if the aircraft type is anything to go by :)


http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/beech.jpg

Gk0_fY-Gxdg

Jabawocky
11th Apr 2010, 05:43
Anyone know where this is?

http://file052b.bebo.com/9/original/2010/04/11/05/4525920200a12417096765o.jpg

Euro Driver
11th Apr 2010, 10:12
looks like Port Douglas, Far North Qld

Jabawocky
11th Apr 2010, 10:51
Nooo! Wrong end! :}

Perhaps some folk know, even has its own code and is in my flight planner. Has its own ILS....sort of:E

VH-XXX
11th Apr 2010, 12:28
Little Avalon perhaps?

UTW
11th Apr 2010, 12:30
Maybe taken from the left seat of an A320 around a 7 mile final for RW18 Avalon?

frigatebird
12th Apr 2010, 07:51
Canberra and Baron 55 at Henderson
(Bloody Ridge or Edsons Ridge - where the savage battles for control of the airfield took place, and where the shells and bombs from earlier photos were found - is the grassy ridge between the treelines over the Baron )http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/SI/scan0021.jpg

frigatebird
12th Apr 2010, 22:20
Alan Nixon, winner of the Warana Air Race, at BU in '68

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Most%20times/AlanNixonatBuWinnerWaranaAirRace68.jpg

Sunland aircraft (and Alan Nixon's and the Bristol Freighter) at AF '68

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Most%20times/SunlandAircraftatAF68.jpg

Sunland aircraft and Bristol Freighter at AF '68

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Most%20times/SunlandaircraftandBristolFreighter6.jpg

sixtiesrelic
12th Apr 2010, 22:37
I don't remember Sunland having their logo on a Bonanza in 68.
I got my Commercial in that Muscateer.

Jabawocky
12th Apr 2010, 23:29
One of its friends more recently :ok:
http://file051b.bebo.com/13/original/2010/04/11/09/4525920200a12417440180o.jpg

And another favourite:)
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/5/large/2010/04/11/09/4525920200a12417440250l.jpg

And an older one.........
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/1/large/2010/04/11/09/4525920200a12417440228l.jpg

And where is this nice strip?
http://i1.bebo.com/051b/9/large/2010/04/11/09/4525920200a12417439997l.jpg

FB.........do you have an endless supply of vintage pics? You set a wonderful example for young folks about taking the shots now even if they seem silly at the time.:D

maxgrad
12th Apr 2010, 23:53
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/Maxgrad/DSC_0197.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/Maxgrad/DSC_0127.jpg

back at ya Jabba.

Jabawocky
13th Apr 2010, 00:02
You must have been close by........ Was a lovely flame out the exhaust at start up:ok:

http://i1.bebo.com/051b/20/large/2010/04/11/09/4525920200a12417440212l.jpg

maxgrad
13th Apr 2010, 00:14
Had to drop a cuppa to get it though!
I almost burnt the motor drive of the camera out on the weekend. Any one interested in a well run, safe, informative and very respectful weekend with vintage a/c must go to Temora!
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/Maxgrad/DSC_0182.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/Maxgrad/DSC_0140.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/Maxgrad/DSC_0306.jpg

frigatebird
13th Apr 2010, 03:01
Jaba
It seems to be working - there are some luvvly other ones being posted now..
Sixties
Had three instructors for the Private - Brent, John and Tony, then was tested in Jan'68 by Beth Garrett before she went off to join the R.F.D.S. Checked by Frank onto SDD later in the year with 72 hours logged. A lovely Bonanza - "S" model with the 285 h.p.engine.
This was my Basic trainer - Musketeer DHG

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Aero%20Club/DHGatMybNov67.jpg

Jabawocky
13th Apr 2010, 04:48
Whats all that vegetation in the background, did you learn out bush :}.

Yeahhhhh I know.........so you learnt to fly in my year of manufacture!:ooh:

frigatebird
13th Apr 2010, 05:43
Brent, - envious that his fellow Instructor Tony got a job on the Mactaggart's Bonanza -tearing himself away from it..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Aero%20Club/BrenttearinghimselfawayfromTonysBon.jpg

frigatebird
13th Apr 2010, 05:52
Steve, - the salesman, - trying to flog a near-new 172 (repainted)CMF to the Club..
(what has changed in 40 years..?)

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/Most%20times/CMF-Steve-ClubMembersSept69.jpg

(apart from the long socks !!) ( the survivors have more grey hair !!)

chimbu warrior
13th Apr 2010, 07:48
Ok Frigatebird, where were these taken?

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/PNG/3-23-2010_066.jpg?t=1271144673

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/PNG/3-23-2010_047.jpg?t=1271144844

An airstrip familiar to you is very close by........

megle2
13th Apr 2010, 08:55
Frigate Bird - Getting close to home with those SAS photo's.
When did Gordon J take over from Frank?
Lots of hours in SDD the Bonanza.
What does your logbook show for the Bonanza endorsement.
About 5 hours for the B35 or C210 in about 71 / 72.

ForkTailedDrKiller
13th Apr 2010, 09:16
About 5 hours for the B35 or C210 in about 71 / 72

Surely you jest!

Perhaps if you are stepping up from a C150!

With 150 hrs TT in the log book in the early 70's, my B35 endorsement was 55 min and the C210, a couple of weeks later, was 25 min!

Dr :8

frigatebird
13th Apr 2010, 10:06
Chimbu W
The first one with that grassy ridge and white sand beach looks a bit like the resort area at Anuha on the opposite side of the island to the strip. (Its NOT Tambea with its black sand beach, there is no strip near it anyway..)
The second could be the resort area at Anuha as it was being built..
Doesn't look like Arovo Resort off Kieta as I remember it from the boat..

megle
Did two flights with Frank on the 21 Sept. '68, 1hour 15 & 1hour 10, then took it away the next day for 6 hours to Emerald, Dalby and Maryborough.

Not sure about the takeover, but my first check with Gordon in SDD was 3 June '69 before leaving in it the same day from AF to Roma, Emerald, (o/n), then Mackay, Townsville on my Com nav 2. Did a local flight out of Emerald as well on the way back when my friend flew his legs, (he loved old SDD too but stayed a Private pilot).
Did my Baron endorsement with Frank from AF on 17/18 Nov.'75.
(He had been a Spitfire pilot I believe)
Hope that narrows it somewhat..

Kulwin Park
13th Apr 2010, 10:08
A friend has allowed me to post his image of some contrails to the S/SW of Wycheproof, VIC a couple of weeks ago.

Going by that image I would be almost certain to say that I can see a standard holding pattern with 3 orbits? - Well photographed I say http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


I think that was me circling Wycheproof at Christmas ... several orbits over 3 days ... plus a few hammerhead turns! :} :ok:

chimbu warrior
13th Apr 2010, 11:22
Frigatebird, nothing wrong with your eyes (or memory)!

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/chimbu737/PNG/3-23-2010_053.jpg?t=1271157644

sixtiesrelic
13th Apr 2010, 11:28
Frigatebird, You're not the boardriding younger brother of the guy in the other mob who I later worked for are you?

Flopt
13th Apr 2010, 11:33
C/S Endo........................PA32-260 : .8hrs inc load check
Retract. Endo..................B35k :1.2hrs

Total Time77.9hrs

[must have been a bit 'slow' witted in FTDK......what's so hard about "gear switch down, check brakes" or "touch brakes, select gear switch up"?.......seem to remember distractingly grubby CFI with severe B/O!!!!!!!!!!! ]

Flopt

http://www.fototime.com/057EACCE9EB8BF2/standard.jpg

Capt Fathom
13th Apr 2010, 11:51
Endorsement on S/E type?....how old are you blokes?

Hey! Watch it. The 70's wasn't that long ago! :uhoh:

frigatebird
13th Apr 2010, 12:18
Sixties
No i'm an older brother..

Chimbu W
Thats probably because I moored my little yacht at about that position in those photos once during daylight hours, then went over the side on a night dive on a dark night (but while a thunderstorm was in progress), and found the whole area crawling with crayfish !! Then a day or so later, up though Sandfly Passage for another dive on its wall, across to Savo, then back to Town.
Good little weeks break, that !!

p.s. The dive on the cut-off bow of the battleship in Tulaghi harbour on the way over was interesting too, as no coral grew there - the seabed was covered in granules of cordite.. (and Coke bottles..) Called in at Gavutu, (where the dolphins are penned for export to the Middle East now,) then went through the M'Boli Passage and past Siota.

frigatebird
13th Apr 2010, 12:29
Flopt
O.K. yours is two hours..!! (mine 2hr.25) :ugh:
That looks like Bundy
You're not talking about Graham..??

Flopt
13th Apr 2010, 12:34
0.2hrs [ inc load check]

Total time: 504hrs

Flopt

PS 1987 with C210 VH-BNZ and well known PPRUNER'S wife and kids....& god-awfull set of duds....


http://www.fototime.com/BCBDA6C620E4405/standard.jpg

Flopt
13th Apr 2010, 12:39
Does it still look this good?

Haven't been there for 10 years....

Flopt


http://www.fototime.com/9E44A4FBDBC27FE/standard.jpg

Flopt
13th Apr 2010, 13:46
Spot on FB.

Geez you're a clever fella!

Flopt:D

megle2
13th Apr 2010, 22:02
F'bird / Flopt / Fdk

5 hours sticks in my memory - it may of been an owner / insurance thing for a period there especially for C210

Logbook shows
early 71 85 hrs total B35 was 2.8 including load check flt B33 .4
early 75 700 hrs C210 1.84 including load check flt

ForkTailedDrKiller
13th Apr 2010, 22:15
So whats the average these days for endorsements?

Ha!

A couple of years ago I made an enquiry about private hiring a C210. Was told a "Check Ride" would be required. I was looking at doing 100 hrs in the aeroplane over the following 12 mths.

No problem, I thought - generally 3 circuits and landings, in my experience.

Was informed that the "Check Ride" would take about 5 hrs - 3 hrs on the ground and 2 hrs in the air. All charged at some stupid rate.

At the time I had about 2500 hrs TT, including 1000+ on high performance aircraft up to C402/PA31, and was current on the C210 having flown 10+ in one in the previous 90 days (300+ TT on C200 series).

I made other arrangements - acquired the FTDK instead!

Dr :8

PS: Is it just me, or are there more wankers in this business now compared with 30 yrs ago?

404 Titan
13th Apr 2010, 22:56
Flopt

Birri Fishing Lodge, Mornington Island. I use to fly there every Saturday between April and October in a C310R/C402C or C404 taking guests in for Dave. It’s almost ten years since I was last there as well. I would occasionally overnight there as well when I was doing work for Telstra. A few sherbs at the outdoor bar there was very pleasant way to end the day.:ok: