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NZFlyingKiwi
19th Jun 2012, 01:02
So where DO they put the Made in China sticker?
It has to have one somewhere!

Right here. :ok:

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/NZFlyingKiwi/Cessna162MadeinChina.jpg

slackie
19th Jun 2012, 02:31
Ha! Classic!! :D:E:ok:

Ultralights
19th Jun 2012, 03:16
the second ship, extra 300 was flown by a second instructor.

quinnyfly
19th Jun 2012, 03:43
Flew out of there in a beaver amphib, I have not been there for a few years, I heard they were going to seal the RWY and improve the airport. Another bloke I know said a flying school was going in there also!!!

AeroGirl
19th Jun 2012, 08:49
Originally posted by training wheels (http://www.pprune.org/members/25171-training-wheels)
and your partner has got a better set than yoursI heard that.... := lol

Jack Ranga
19th Jun 2012, 23:14
You 'read' that :E

Welcome :ok:

Kharon
22nd Jun 2012, 08:07
Real ones - oh boy, talk about living the dream.

Boeing 314. (http://www.ppsmania.fr/avions/boeing-314b.html)

Be patient - it has to be downloaded and plays on Power Point - best I could do with it, sorry (30 seconds max). But it is, for mine, worth it..

VH-XXX
22nd Jun 2012, 10:48
What 787 test pilots get up to when they have a spare 19 hours of test flying to complete!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/787.jpg

Jabawocky
22nd Jun 2012, 10:53
Clever hey............jaba is flight planning ........:ok:

Jamair
22nd Jun 2012, 11:05
Kharon - very cool! You might enjoy 'Night over Water' by Ken Follet; a mystery / thriller novel set on board a B314 flying from Europe to USA in 1939. Some very good tech info. Also recommend 'Hornet Flight' and 'Mirage' from the same author.

PLovett
22nd Jun 2012, 11:14
XXX,

That has to be skywriting on a monumental scale, especially the Boeing symbol. :ok: :D

kingRB
22nd Jun 2012, 11:20
Real ones - oh boy, talk about living the dream.

thanks for the link mate :ok:

One of my first aircraft scale models I got from my Grandfather as a lad was one of these. I was back then and have been ever since captivated by this aircraft.

Gyroscope07
22nd Jun 2012, 23:30
These photos are sweet!

Jerr
27th Jun 2012, 21:09
For a change nice weather...

Where am I landing?

kAGdisIUoN0

Have a great day.

JERR

wishiwasupthere
27th Jun 2012, 22:10
Horsham?

I don't recall 17/35 being sealed last time I was there though.

notmyC150v2
28th Jun 2012, 01:17
Where am I landing?

About one third of the way down the runway???

Jabawocky
28th Jun 2012, 03:17
Anybody recognise this mug shot......and how did he get in the LHS of the Retard Vehicle! :ooh:

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab58/jaba430/Photo1-2.jpg



And for something educational, this is 1000' and WOT, 29.6"MP and 2430RPM and about 90% power. High QNH day and I get some RAM AIR effect!

So we leaned to about 60-70F LOP and look at the result, 50 LPH, going fast and the CHT's are beautiful. Result is 79% power and LOP. Cop that flat earthers!

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab58/jaba430/photo2-3.jpg

Trent 972
28th Jun 2012, 05:28
With your FPV in the brown, you're lucky the earth isn't flat, or you would have eventually bumped into it .
Not too shabby an effort though, but whenever I see 184 knots my thoughts are generally..... "ROTATE"! :E

FJ44
28th Jun 2012, 05:40
Brave letting that mug up front. :E

goin'flyin
28th Jun 2012, 07:48
Jaba - it would seem that is a fairly well known 'MUG'. He must get around a bit :). I hope you were sitting in the rhs with hands very close to the controls ready to take over.

My guess is, he had no idea how to start it, and had to get you to start said retard vehicle for him. Did he try to select 'Flight Idle' upon line up?

Was that a prize for him passing an exam recently?

Jabawocky
28th Jun 2012, 08:28
:}


His prize was an hour or so in the Dash 10.

He did rather well indeed, after 12 months since last retarding, and had the start sequence and most things under control. I was impressed as some of my other learned and skilled mates seem to have much more trouble......and they see it more often. But they are Bonanza pilots :ooh:

ForkTailedDrKiller
28th Jun 2012, 11:55
He did rather well indeed, after 12 months since last retarding, and had the start sequence and most things under control. I was impressed as some of my other learned and skilled mates seem to have much more trouble......and they see it more often. But they are Bonanza pilots http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/icon25.gif

Huh? Last time I flew the Retard Vehicle it had Jabastart!

"Jaba! Start it"! :E

Dr :8

Jabawocky
28th Jun 2012, 12:02
Clinton, good question, I do not have the exact answer at my fingertips, but Lyc's generally are happy from around 55-95PSI and the typical happy medium is the mid 70's. Hot Oil maybe 70, and up to 80 if cooler.

I think your TCM has a lower oil pressure range, 30-60 PSI perhaps?

I am surprised that nobody has picked one small "data" conflict :} The fuel QTY on board did not equal the LTS REMAINING, because we shot about 50L to go play and could not be bothered adding the amount in. Slack I know.

You blokes are getting soft, especially you Trent, not much gets past you!

Trent 972
28th Jun 2012, 12:30
No No Jaba, it was one of the first things I noticed. I just didn't say anything because I thought it was too obvious and there would have to be a reason for it. I was more interested in the NM/Litre. -very respectable. Is that ANM/LTR or is it smart enough to do GNM/LTR as indicated by the 'Range'?
(Your rudder trim balance hasn't improved since your last photo though).
Arrrggghhhh! That engine is running ‘over square’! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/eek.gif I’d expect the cylinders to explode soon (unless ‘shock cooling’ gets them first). I still worry that little gems (like Clintons etc.) may be taken as gospel by some of the younger/less experienced pilots of aircraft with basic OEM garden variety engines without your set-up, realising that your engine injectors, instrumentation and installation knowledge is far superior to the basic setup found on most GA aircraft, (where some of those OWT's may just have a reason to be observed). :ok:

Jabawocky
28th Jun 2012, 12:57
Trent

GNM/LT, it is derived from GPS data over the ARINC429 link. I normally see numbers around 3.8-4.0, but horsing around at low level, the fuel burn is higher.

When you have a TAS at FL130 say and 160Knots, 36.5LPH, it looks REALLY nice :)

Hehehehe that skid ball lies.....he is a King Air driver, the ball is always in the middle :E Actually it is pretty much in the middle! For a change! :}

Clinton is on the money.....:}:E this is a garden variety Lycoming, complete with grey paint! It does have a good EMS and some education to go with it.

The thing is most of what I can do with that engine I can apply quite safely to a C172 and a fixed pitch prop with not much more than a Tacho. A Chieftan, well a Fuel flow meter also. When you have knowledge and understanding, you actually need a lot less instruments. However less instruments and no understanding, is where most people are at. The difference is with a good EMS, be it a JPI/Auracle or whatever, you have an excellent diagnostic tool. Problem is once you get it, what you do with all that data is where the value is.

It is my goal to change that over time, bit by bit :ok:


So anyone else wanna take a shot at the bloke in the first pic :E

Or post some more pics?

Jamair
28th Jun 2012, 13:15
Must have been an afternoon expedition, he don't like mornings too much.

Did you manage to match the Jammy TAS record??

There was a recent incident with a C210 engine failure locally, story has it that the new owner read about this LoP thing, figured it was a good plan and ran his TIO520 at 6GPH.... without the benefit of an engine monitor. Seized it solid about 10nm short of the RWY.:eek:

OMG, I just realised I don't have enough gold bars on my shirt!! Better go get some more!
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p271/jamair_photos/BaseTurn.jpg

Jack Ranga
28th Jun 2012, 13:41
Dear Jaba,

My Mum says I should do engine management 101 @ Ausfly, I was wondering whether you think it was a good idea??

Jabawocky
29th Jun 2012, 01:30
Jamair

Surely you are winding me up...:}
There was a recent incident with a C210 engine failure locally, story has it that the new owner read about this LoP thing, figured it was a good plan and ran his TIO520 at 6GPH.... without the benefit of an engine monitor. Seized it solid about 10nm short of the RWY.

This is the photos thread so if you want to start a new one to discuss this furphy further, please do.

At 6GPH the C210 would have been developing 89.4HP and no more.

How does that seize an engine? :roll eyes:

How could he run it without a monitor at 6 GPH anyway? And if it had full MP and RPM and that much fuel flow, it would stop cold.....due lack of fuel not a seizure.

You must be winding me up ya bastard! :}

And he does look cool with those gold bars and glasses :D

Chimbu chuckles
29th Jun 2012, 01:39
And he does look cool with those gold bars and glasses

Nahhh...just proves a Baron can make ANYONE look cool.:ok:

Jamair
29th Jun 2012, 01:48
Don't hardly even need to BAIT the hook when you throw a line out to the Jab-meister:D

If I get time tonight I'll download some from more recent times.

BTW, anyone got any experience with CONTOUR or other HD video cameras in flight?

Jerr
29th Jun 2012, 01:51
Yes Wishiwasupthere

The recently sealed Runway 35/17 YHSM - Horsham.

Cheers

JERR

morno
29th Jun 2012, 06:18
Where the bloody hell did you get that photo from Jamair?

And it sounds like everyone's a comedian, :hmm:.

Capt Fathom
29th Jun 2012, 08:35
That's flash!

A Baron with carpet on the ceiling!

The ones I flew were vinyl!

Arnold E
29th Jun 2012, 12:03
This is the photos thread so if you want to start a new one to discuss this furphy further, please do.

I've said it before and I will say it again, Less talk..........more photos!!!!!!!!

Arnold E
29th Jun 2012, 12:08
At 6GPH the C210 would have been developing 89.4HP and no more.Flying at 6 GPH, I'd like to see that in a 210, gliding maybe.......:E

Chee. broke me own rules.:}

Trent 972
29th Jun 2012, 13:20
JabaWhen you have a TAS at FL130 say and 160Knots, 36.5LPH, it looks REALLY niceMy RV380 (Retirement Vehicle) gets 36.5 L/nm (Take-Off= 1700 litres/min) Don't worry about LOP ops.

Jabawocky
29th Jun 2012, 14:15
:}

Find that red knob :ok:

Holy cow....you bloke have deep pockets :E

slackie
1st Jul 2012, 06:36
Not quite a photo but....
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FNQ Driver
1st Jul 2012, 08:50
Good old EZN hey Jamair,it was very "retro"

kam16
3rd Jul 2012, 08:47
Hey Jamair

How about getting some facts prior to posting...then that would not be so sensational would it. Yes the aircraft was operated LoP as for 6 GPH you're dreaming or just full of something. Looks like it came from the LoP dooms dayers.

Jamair
3rd Jul 2012, 12:52
OK kam16, next time I'm engaging in some tongue-in-cheek sh!t-stirring with my mate Jabba, I'll put an SARCASM ALERT up just for you.:rolleyes:

For the record, I have neither knowledge of nor interest in that incident beyond what was in the paper. Happy? :hmm:

Jabawocky
3rd Jul 2012, 13:24
kam16

settle pettle

jamjar is just stirring his mates.............

Mates who will take revenge at some opportune time :E:E:E

Jabawocky
5th Jul 2012, 10:54
And clinton, if you change the units of measure to Hecta Pascals :E and radians per second............

Oversquare does not exist anymore. You do need to erase that from your vocabulary ....as do I. It really does not exist! ;)

I do know you know that.....but others might not! :ok:

Pilotette
8th Jul 2012, 10:09
Over square!?!! :ooh: Not allowed to talk about that!! ;)

3 Holer
9th Jul 2012, 21:38
This is supposed to be Photos in Dunnunda NOT Fighters in Dunnunda!;)

Jabawocky
10th Jul 2012, 04:34
OK 3H

It is not quite down under...far from it even. Anyone know where?:} Besides the USA.

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab58/jaba430/photo-5.jpg

slackie
10th Jul 2012, 05:06
Love the gun decals!! Need to get me some of them!!:ok::}:D

Trent 972
10th Jul 2012, 06:50
PDK Atlanta Georgia??

Jabawocky
10th Jul 2012, 09:19
Close but I know you are cheating :E

Cobb County Just north of ATL :ok:

I love this place! GA is just so huge, go to see a friend and his hangar buddies have cool RV's, FTDK's and outside there are several late model Falcons KA's you name it :ok:

Trent 972
10th Jul 2012, 09:59
Ah Bugga! I tossed a coin between Peachtree and McCollum. Tails I lost. :ok:

Jabawocky
15th Jul 2012, 22:24
Something for UnderneathTheRadar to get all excited about..... :ok:

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab58/jaba430/IMG_1067.jpg

Now the tricky question, where? And for those few of you who know exactly where I am hush up a bit would ya ;)

Sunfish
15th Jul 2012, 22:29
https://picasaweb.google.com/108013894420826371174/July16201202#5765525216937505266

Pilotette
16th Jul 2012, 10:49
And me Jaba...:ok:

Trent 972
16th Jul 2012, 11:10
Hayden Lake, Idaho??? N728RT (http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/AEROSTAR-702P/1979-AEROSTAR-702P/1220231.htm?)?? :E

Jabawocky
16th Jul 2012, 12:39
Trent, you have outsmarted yourself completely this time :}

Pilotete..... yes indeed, but UTR is a newcomer to the beast so I was thinking of him. You are an old hand by now surely ;)

Pilotette
16th Jul 2012, 22:24
I nearly read that as 'old hag'!:p
Are you Oshkoshing this year?

greybeard
17th Jul 2012, 01:42
Well done, nearly a whole page and TWO photos

No wonder some of the orignal, 1998, hands gave up

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Chimbu chuckles
17th Jul 2012, 02:22
Ok.

A little detail on the C195 that few get to see. The clever folding engine mounts.

http://www.fototime.com/{EE0D3E9B-907B-4760-AD02-532578E4354B}/origpict/JTM%2520eng%2520mounts.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/{6AD771DC-5884-48A2-A80C-0ADC910770DF}/origpict/JTM%2520eng%2520mounts%25202.jpg

Arnold E
17th Jul 2012, 09:08
Chimbu chuckles (http://www.pprune.org/members/14381-chimbu-chuckles)

Wot's happnin' with the Bonza?

Chimbu chuckles
17th Jul 2012, 09:47
I have a new set of wings - well new to me - they're off a 1978 A36 that had 7200TT (EZU has 7150ishTT) that was force landed wheels down in a farmers field. The nose wheel collapsed and stove in the nose bowl (zero other damage) and the insurance company wrote it off - it must have been severely UNDERinsured. I bought the wings, and some other bits, from a fella who purchased the aircraft as is, where is, from the insurance company.

A good mate who is an A&P in Georgia flew his V35B up to Ohio, checked out the wings, took pics and pronounced the wings perfect.

Jay. I just sent him the $ and he organised EVERYTHING else - its good to have mates.

http://www.fototime.com/{1B7DD5B9-75A6-43DF-B400-352ACB88BBDE}/origpict/SN150732.JPG

Interior behind spar

http://www.fototime.com/{22EEF9AC-35B2-486F-A993-09BBB4304BF0}/origpict/wing%2520interior%25202.JPG

Inside leading edge

http://www.fototime.com/{8B068F9A-0945-4797-AAB1-E5374D02259E}/origpict/wing%2520interior.JPG

Wheel well - note the wings came with gear and brakes - brakes near zero time.

http://www.fototime.com/{2F33E184-6CD5-491D-9C77-14FEEE401073}/origpict/wheel%2520well.JPG

Wings stored awaiting a buyer - ME!!

http://www.fototime.com/{2D0463F3-860B-422B-BB1A-CC935774C0DF}/origpict/SN150718.JPG

The wings also came with the flaps, ailerons and gear doors.

http://www.fototime.com/{A6D17FA5-796A-46E2-8FC0-22134AB82103}/origpict/SN150720.JPG

As soon as I had paid for them the VERY strange fella I bought em off insisted they be removed from his hangar - so we stored em in another hangar for a few days until the truck came and picked them up.

http://www.fototime.com/{373C8590-8A08-43EE-BABA-5367179B8D24}/origpict/SN150723.JPG

They arrive in BNE 29th July. After parting out my old wings I figure these wings will have cost me 1/4...maybe even 1/5th, of the cost of restoring EZU's old wings - not to mention getting it done years earlier.

We have a bit to do to finish off the fuselage then it wiring/panel/interior/paint.

But soon I will have a complete Bonanza again - if not all in one piece at least all the pieces will be in perfect condition and complete in and of themselves.:ok:

Arnold E
17th Jul 2012, 12:51
But soon I will have a complete Bonanza again - if not all in one piece at least all the pieces will be in perfect condition and complete in and of themselves

Nice.......:ok::ok:

Skywagon1915
17th Jul 2012, 19:13
Hey CC, show us some WIP on the rest of the airframe.
Impressed with the new wing's and cost outcome, sounds like a lot of co-ordinating done there. I think you were lucky to get the opportunity.

What is the plan with the panel, same as or upgrade ?

morno
17th Jul 2012, 20:33
Chuck,
I'm impressed by your Bonza work. A nicely done up aircraft is sometimes better than a new one, and I'd say that'll be the case with yours by the sounds of it.

Maybe if I come and annoy Jaba again, I'll have to try and see this machine, :ok:.

Couple from recent times.

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo84/morno_photos/c9b9638a.jpg

A holding pattern well known to a lot of us these days!

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo84/morno_photos/47d21cac.jpg

morno

Dora-9
17th Jul 2012, 21:01
Morno:

Great photos! What brand of EFIS is this please?

morno
17th Jul 2012, 21:43
Collins Proline 21 Dora

Jabawocky
17th Jul 2012, 21:53
Dat would look really good in your jalopy too Dora :ok:

Have you the room with all that other glass?

Dora-9
18th Jul 2012, 00:26
Thanks indeed Morno.

Just dreaming along the lines of me, Doreen-9 and the two muttlies disembarking from a King Air, Jaba.....in my current ride I had enough troubles squeezing in an Aera 500! You're not missing anything here wearther-wise, btw.

Chimbu chuckles
18th Jul 2012, 01:57
Nothing much to report fuselage wise - it hasn't progressed in the last 2 years for a variety of reasons - mostly me being 3000nm away/work getting in the way and low priority from the engineers POV. I suspect that the wings arriving has re affirmed to them that I am serious about finishing this project so they're promising to get the fuselage progressing again.

Panel wise I am just gonna take the old one out, make it beautiful and put it back in again - with a Aspen EFIS.

Horizontal stab - both of those were finished years ago. Vertical too.

http://www.fototime.com/{ECC8211B-95A0-4F4A-B4F2-F88E58C1E4BB}/origpict/Left%2520Horizontal%2520Stab.jpg

Fuselage is about 75% finished...and about 60% to go;)

All the riveting in this pic I actually did:ok:

http://www.fototime.com/{218E812A-30DB-4D28-B4BB-22FD2DE72A49}/origpict/PC310180.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/{C9589B1C-8077-49F1-9CB2-943D09B69B1C}/origpict/EZU%2520inside%2520fuselage.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{6D82FD37-24BC-4D91-83A5-B7E85DE149E1}/origpict/Yard%2520002.jpg

Firewall fwd was finished ages ago and I put in extra cooling gills as well as replacing the 'sharks gill' type with louver type.

http://www.fototime.com/{7FE0F7B8-D7B2-49D9-9ADA-27EE9CEE1F90}/origpict/engine%2520bay.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/{F25216F1-3877-47DD-AD07-36C4936A61D5}/origpict/PC090181.jpg

This is (still) where we are up to fuselage wise - FWD STBD side and FWD belly to go, and the small skin between the windscreen and firewall, and the fuselage will be finished, structurally speaking.

http://www.fototime.com/{A52342A8-2C80-4D35-B60F-F5F2C21BAD2B}/origpict/EZU%2520STBD%2520fwd%2520fuselage.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/{27A9C368-E486-4992-A95E-9040A93AEBEF}/origpict/P6020316.JPG

But the light at the end of the tunnel is more well defined and doesn't appear to be an oncoming train.:hmm:

Edit: skywagon1915 the wings were a HUGE win. Best guess was to do to my old wings what I have done with the fuselage would have been 50-60k. The new wings cost me 19.5k + shipping etc. If I can part out my old wings/flaps/ailerons/etc for 10k - and the spars are good so that should be doable - I will be streets ahead....not to mention the time factor. I woulda been 80 by the time we finished my old wings:{

slackie
18th Jul 2012, 02:45
Nice... I'd bet that it's going to be BETTER than brand new.:ok:

tail wheel
18th Jul 2012, 02:48
I woulda been 80 by the time we finished my old wings

So, completion is imminent Grand Pa? :}

Chimbu chuckles
18th Jul 2012, 03:21
So, completion is imminent Grand Pa?

Get fcked - rude letter follows:ok:

My wings - as they came to rest in the farmers field.

http://www.fototime.com/{D14A17F2-6F6D-4627-AF40-D81D9B623A22}/origpict/570_plane.jpg

Gratuitous pic of golden child mk 2/Mini Me on Jaba's motor bike:ok:

http://www.fototime.com/{9DE6068F-BF9B-44B0-97DD-2EC8396D19AB}/origpict/Jacob%2520motor%2520bike.jpg

Young Jacob looks so much like me at his age it gives his father the ****s:}

Desert Flower
18th Jul 2012, 06:00
So, completion is imminent Grand Pa?

Well ya know Tailie I have always said the grandson would turn 21 before Grandpa got the Bo rebuilt. Now I'm thinking it might be done in time for his 18th! ;)

DF. (ducking for cover!)

PA39
18th Jul 2012, 08:45
Gee they wrote it off! underinsured is right!!

TechCons
18th Jul 2012, 09:02
That brought back some memories! - I had to check my logbook, but yep, I too have had a flight in GIF ..... way back in the early eighties.

Jabawocky
18th Jul 2012, 12:04
And he didn't want to get off either :ok:

john_tullamarine
18th Jul 2012, 23:24
And he didn't want to get off either http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

.. that's a young larrikin if I've even seen one ..:D

He'll give his daddy some grey hairs when he gets to his teens ..

Pinky the pilot
19th Jul 2012, 05:15
He'll give his daddy some grey hairs when he gets to his teens

A good addendum to that comment just sprang into my mind JT but I 'aint going there!!:=

I have no wish to go onto Chucks permanent s**t list!:}:D Which is where you're gonna end up DF if you aren't careful.:D

Chimbu chuckles
19th Jul 2012, 05:50
Tee hee:E

KuStsFW4EmQ

frigatebird
19th Jul 2012, 21:42
Chucks permanent s**t list!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif:D


Just as well he has other people's/company's aircraft to fly in the meantime....

Flying Binghi
20th Jul 2012, 01:13
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Be happy people, just think of the excitment that 5 cents a litre 'carbon tax' brings to a select few Australians...

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4755439954886682&pid=1.1


For anybody who is interested, De flieger and me are havin a look-see at Gillards carbon dioxide hysteria over here - http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/471031-climate-change-debate-52.html#post7305190









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Towering Q
23rd Jul 2012, 01:17
There could be a career in ATC for the four citizens pictured!!!:E

VH-XXX
24th Jul 2012, 11:36
Piper Cub anyone?

Courtesy of the EAA's live OSHKOSH 2012 webcam.

AirVenture Webcams (http://www.airventure.org/webcams/popup_north.html)
AirVenture Webcams (http://www.airventure.org/webcams/popup_south.html)
AirVenture Webcams (http://www.airventure.org/webcams/popup_central.html)

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/cubs.jpg

Is this a 47?

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/47.jpg

Don't look too closely, you might see Jaba walking past!

ozaggie
24th Jul 2012, 13:26
Looks like a C46 Curtis Commando to me.

Rusty1970
25th Jul 2012, 05:58
Looks like this one.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/487985_10151136894383623_1817377330_n.jpg

Plenty more pics from Oshkosh at:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151131115403623.513089.192081688622&type=1

L0u0k0e
27th Jul 2012, 10:12
No points for guessing where.

http://www.pbpphotography.com/photos/upload/2012/07/27/20120727040519-4bd1cf91.jpg

maehhh
29th Jul 2012, 19:52
Luke

that's painfully beautiful ... :sad:

Piano Man
30th Jul 2012, 00:36
VH-WTY at Whitehaven.

Awesome shot :ok:

Jack Ranga
30th Jul 2012, 02:09
181 cubs at Oshkosh + two cents & worm in the F18's. 21 C195's in mint condition. More RV's than you could count. RV14 was there, that'll be winner!

Jack Ranga
30th Jul 2012, 02:13
Plus, a country in deep recession, not a pretty sight driving through cities with multiple business houses boarded up, with a GA industry still pumping.

Australian aviation when compared with this? Embarrassing..........

Piano Man
30th Jul 2012, 08:19
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8462/dsc0459i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/98/dsc0459i.jpg/)

kimmstreep
30th Jul 2012, 09:58
http://biztravelguru.com/blogs/business-travel-news/VIP-Airbus-A380-Interior-1.jpg

L0u0k0e
31st Jul 2012, 00:36
Piano Man, let me know when you get bored of your job or need a co-pilot!

Amphip + Whitsundays is a hard combination to beat..

Flying Binghi
1st Aug 2012, 03:10
Amphip + Whitsundays is a hard combination to beat..

...and some of the pax them lucky drivers get to meet..:E








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TOUCH-AND-GO
3rd Aug 2012, 05:50
Ain't she a beauty!

http://i49.tinypic.com/300dtex.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/zme4gw.jpg

Somebody thought they could do a fishy? :E

jas24zzk
3rd Aug 2012, 08:11
Under new victorian laws, that would be considered reckless driving, and the vehicle impounded. Following that event, you could not transfer registration rights, as the flatfoots also hold the right to apply to the courts to crush said 'instrument of a crime', even on a first impoundment.

Kris Lovell
4th Aug 2012, 00:12
Amphip + Whitsundays is a hard combination to beat..

Awww, the only thing better than one PT6 on floats....... is two..(not my pictures unfortunately)

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j350/krislovell/tma.jpg

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j350/krislovell/IMG_6579.jpg

Kris

Piano Man
4th Aug 2012, 07:00
Awesome Kris, my dream job!

Trent 972
4th Aug 2012, 08:44
TOUCH-AND-GOAin't she a beauty!
It's hard to tell, with that piece of 777 trash blocking the view of the QF 738, behind! :E

emeritus
5th Aug 2012, 06:08
Just as well the racial discrimination laws do not apply to aircraft!!:= :oh: :E

Emeritus :E

Capn Bloggs
5th Aug 2012, 13:47
Beauty and the beast?

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w334/capnbloggs/20120727_051409800.jpg

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w334/capnbloggs/Fugro.jpg

Trojan1981
5th Aug 2012, 23:53
Luke, Piano Man; I am jealous!
Kris, are those shots from BJ by any chance? :ok:

Howard Hughes
6th Aug 2012, 00:17
Beauty and the beast?
Which is which Bloggsy?:}

TOUCH-AND-GO
6th Aug 2012, 03:37
It's hard to tell, with that piece of 777 trash blocking the view of the QF 738, behind!

Sorry Trent! :E

http://i45.tinypic.com/o8rw4p.jpg

haughtney1
6th Aug 2012, 15:35
Touch, you just keep those photo's of the EK 777's coming.....much better than the Dugong. :ok:

Kharon
7th Aug 2012, 01:58
There are some great pictures to go with the good yarn below. But, to my shame getting them downloaded and posted has got me beat (sounds of head scratching). Can anyone help, they are worth the effort. :Dhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Spitfire_beer3-640x544.jpg

Getting the important things done properly was very important in times of war. The Brits knew how to do it! Great ingenuity! Wonder why the aeronautical engineers never thought of this? When men were men and "drag-coefficient" was overcome by libation desire.

In the lighter moments of World War II, the Spitfire was used in an unorthodox role: bringing beer kegs to the men in Normandy . During the war, the Heneger and Constable brewery donated free beer to the troops. After D-Day, supplying the invasion troops in Normandy with vital supplies was already a challenge. Obviously, there was no room in the logistics chain for such luxuries as beer or other types of refreshments. Some men, often called "sourcers", were able to get wine or other niceties "from the land" or rather from the locals. RAF Spitfire pilots came up with an even better idea.

The Spitfire Mk IX was an evolved version of the Spitfire, with pylons under the wings for bombs or tanks. It was discovered that the bomb pylons could also be modified to carry beer kegs. According to pictures that can be found, various sizes of kegs were used. Whether the kegs could be jettisoned in case of emergency is unknown. If the Spitfire flew high enough, the cold air at altitude would even refresh the beer, making it ready for consumption upon arrival.

A variation of this was a long range fuel tank modified to carry beer instead of fuel. The modification even received the official designation Mod. XXX. Propaganda services were quick to pick up on this, which probably explains the "official" designation.

http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Spitfire_beer4.jpg

\As a result, Spitfires equipped with Mod XXX or keg-carrying pylons were often sent back to Great-Britain for "maintenance" or "liaison" duties. They would then return to Normandy with full beer kegs fitted under the wings.

http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Spitfire_beer1.jpg


Typically, the British Revenue of Ministry and Excise stepped in, notifying the brewery that they were in violation of the law by exporting beer without paying the relevant taxes. It seems that Mod. XXX was terminated then, but various squadrons found different ways to refurbish their stocks. Most often, this was done with the unofficial approval of higher echelons.

In his book " Dancing in the Skies", Tony Jonsson, the only Icelander pilot in the RAF, recalled beer runs while he was flying with 65 Squadron. Every week a pilot was sent back to the UK to fill some cleaned-up drop tanks with beer and return to the squadron. Jonsson hated the beer runs as every man on the squadron would be watching you upon arrival. Anyone who made a rough landing and dropped the tanks would be the most hated man on the squadron for an entire week.



http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Spitfire_beer2.jpg

Jabawocky
8th Aug 2012, 10:11
Been a while since we have had a "Where is this?" photo so where is this one?

And Warbo..... ssshhhh just coz you have knowledge of where I was!

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab58/jaba430/Rubber%20Chicken%20World%20Tour/m_IMG_1149.jpg

triathlon
8th Aug 2012, 22:05
An Airport?

Jabawocky
10th Aug 2012, 10:40
Very good:D

Surprised the regulars have not been on this already.:confused:

Aye Ess
10th Aug 2012, 10:55
OK.OK....let's see...a windsock. Cone markers. Apron area.....yep,I've seen this before. I'd say there is a runway nearby.....if only Jaba would move that bit of plastic so we could get some more info.

Jabawocky
10th Aug 2012, 11:39
A clue, somewhere between Brisbane and Broken Hill. ;)

Super Cecil
10th Aug 2012, 12:42
Colderenerbry?

NOtimTAMs
10th Aug 2012, 14:05
....Walgett?

ozaggie
10th Aug 2012, 15:42
Cobar, perhaps?

Aye Ess
10th Aug 2012, 21:24
Oooh,oooh !!! Jaba. Pick me !! Pick me!!! Um.....Knowing your association with that destination,I'd guess it's that place that has the skinny hole that ore is extracted from.....Narrow Mine??

Jabawocky
10th Aug 2012, 22:21
Cecil gets the chocky frog! Although no Y in it;)

Piano Man
12th Aug 2012, 01:15
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1737/dsc3117s.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/dsc3117s.jpg/)

VH-XXX
17th Aug 2012, 09:53
Nice beat-up at the start....
1wVwHe__BVc

Case Sensitive
17th Aug 2012, 23:35
Yes it is a nice beat up at the start but the rest leaves a LOT to be desired!

At the 5min mark is he trying to do a loop by reference to the screen in front of him??

Crikey.

Super Cecil
18th Aug 2012, 02:00
Yoo are game posting anything like that these days :eek:

VH-XXX
18th Aug 2012, 07:01
Yoo are game posting anything like that these days

He is game posting that, not me!

Not my video, not me and not my aircraft, so no worries :ok: Looks to be American anyway.

It's quite a bump at the 24 second mark.

Trojan1981
21st Aug 2012, 06:36
A few from the Weekend.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/DSCF5216.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/DSCF5229.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/DSCF5230.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/IMAG0327.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/DSCF5236.jpg

:ok: Now where is Habib my stalker...? ;)

Jabawocky
21st Aug 2012, 07:57
Did you find him? And what size Rocks did you DROP ;) :E

Great pics!:ok:

Trojan1981
22nd Aug 2012, 00:10
And what size Rocks did you DROP

Alas, no dropping of rocks this time ;)

Ex FSO GRIFFO
22nd Aug 2012, 10:36
Re "Alas, no dropping of rocks this time "

At least - Not over the luvly Springwood anyway.....

:=:= :p

stevep64
22nd Aug 2012, 10:57
At least - Not over the luvly Springwood anyway.....

I thought that looked like SE QLD with all the fires in the back ground. Who was that checking their Facebook on the iPhone instead of enjoying the view out the back? :O

Trojan1981
23rd Aug 2012, 01:17
Who was that checking their Facebook on the iPhone instead of enjoying the view out the back?

Another one of the pilots... I think there are now about 14 pilots for the two Caribous!

Great old pub the Oriental there Trojan! I was in Springwood on Monday

Top spot! I often used to stop in there myself.

VH-XXX
23rd Aug 2012, 13:22
I think I need some slats!

HVimgxRVM08

Ultralights
23rd Aug 2012, 22:47
Slats? nahhh, Vortex generators work just as well, less weight, and less drag.

VH-XXX
30th Aug 2012, 22:46
One from my random collection. Can anyone guess where?

http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/tired.jpg

Trent 972
30th Aug 2012, 22:58
Geez xxx, the 'Mickey Mouse' artwork on the water tower makes it a bit easy.
I see you did the 'back lot tour' of the Disney Studio in Orlando.
A little bit of 'Pearl Harbor' (the movie) in Florida.

Jabawocky
2nd Sep 2012, 01:26
Little bit of silly "toilet" humour! :}

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab58/jaba430/Rubber%20Chicken%20World%20Tour/m_IMG_1162.jpg

UnderneathTheRadar
2nd Sep 2012, 09:37
Was disapointed that my IFR traffic Minstrel23 left before I arrived. Fortunately Minstrel24 was behind him....

trRHUvouQws

RFDSEnthusiast
6th Sep 2012, 10:59
Hi, I live in Charleville Qld. The total amount of aircraft that were evacuated from CNS and ISA down to CTL was 11. A total of 6 Beechcraft King Air's, 3 Pilatus PC12's and 2 Cessna C208's. They were all parked at the RFDS hangar along the taxiway. :ok:

Capt Chambo
6th Sep 2012, 22:54
Re post #9874

Eurodisney?

VH-XXX
7th Sep 2012, 00:44
Eurodisney?

Nah, it's Disney in Orlando.

That is one of the very tired looking aircraft from the movie Pearl Harbour.

I've got a few more dribs and drabs from there including Walt's Gulfstream that I'll post later.

Trojan1981
7th Sep 2012, 01:24
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/IMAG0369.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/IMAG0365.jpg

:ok:

j3pipercub
7th Sep 2012, 06:33
So incredibly jealous Trojan, that looks like so much fun. I wish I lived in Illawarra.

A few of my own over the last couple of months

Beetling, yellow bettling

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo342/j3pipercub/IMAG0756.jpg


http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo342/j3pipercub/IMAG0748.jpg

Where? and What's wrong with this picture? (probably both very easy)

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo342/j3pipercub/IMAG0844.jpg

O'Dark thirty
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo342/j3pipercub/IMAG0555.jpg

j3

rioncentu
7th Sep 2012, 07:18
Townsville.

It's dark?

Jamair
7th Sep 2012, 07:23
TL, and the cargo pod is open with engine running / ready to taxi.

TOUCH-AND-GO
7th Sep 2012, 10:37
http://i48.tinypic.com/bbpnb.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2hmilxy.jpg

Caption this one anybody? :E

Jabawocky
7th Sep 2012, 10:39
Overhead Toorbul in the Buttercub :ok:

Hey J3.....one day you are gunna have to come over for a coldie in the hangar........diet pepsi that is! :ok:

Chimbu chuckles
7th Sep 2012, 10:45
The Bou vid - Satwag, Tep Tep, Kabwum, Kokoda et al...lots of memories there.:ok:

blackhand
7th Sep 2012, 21:06
TL, and the cargo pod is open with engine running / ready to taxi.
Pod is open so that the cargo boi can put the tail stand in the pod. Look close and you can see feet and the end of the tail stand.

Bevan666
7th Sep 2012, 21:10
Trojan1981, you keep forgetting to shut the back door!

j3pipercub
8th Sep 2012, 01:47
Yes Jaba I know!

Nice theory blackie, but that van was Taxiing IN after a flight, so a bit of an oops. There are two kinds of caravan drivers, the ones who have done that and ones that will :}

blackhand
8th Sep 2012, 08:54
but that van was Taxiing IN after a flight, so a bit of an oops. Ahh, no IT wasN'T. Look again below the open door and you can see shoes and the end of the red tail stand.

j3pipercub
9th Sep 2012, 03:26
:ugh:Ok, blackie, you must know, it's not like I was there taking the photo or anything :ugh:

j3

j3pipercub
9th Sep 2012, 03:54
Just so you know blackie, I watched the aircraft land on RWY07, taxi IN and past me as I was waiting to depart. I took interest in the aircraft as I had flown it in a previous incarnation. So I can assure you, there was no 'boi' on an active taxiway and there is NO shoes or tailstand in the picture, only your imagination.

j3

blackhand
9th Sep 2012, 04:17
@J3
Well it is near the ground run up bay not the taxi way.
You would have been standing close to Careflight jet hangar when you took the photo

The Green Goblin
9th Sep 2012, 05:08
Sounds like we found our culprit Blackie :)

Reminds me of the time I watched a certain senior female pilot (circa 2007) of chartair land, and taxi in from the runway with the tow bar still attached to the nose wheel of her C210!

How the hell she started it, taxiied and departed without dinging the propeller or jamming the undercarriage when she retracted the gear I'll never know.

You wouldn't believe it unless you saw it! Thankfully it was the mail run with no pax.

I couldn't stop laughing for sometime :p

Aimpoint
9th Sep 2012, 09:25
Well it is near the ground run up bay not the taxi way.
You would have been standing close to Careflight jet hangar when you took the photo

It's smack on the taxiway line heading down to Westwing.


Look close and you can see feet and the end of the tail stand.


Good luck next medical...

"Start from the top".
"Is that a tail stand?"
"No, it's a Q, you're reading a letter chart Mr Blackhand."

Desert Flower
10th Sep 2012, 12:45
What's the thing sticking up in the air on the starboard wing is what I want to know. Or is it the (very high) tail of another aicraft which is blocked out by the 208?

DF.

CAR256
11th Sep 2012, 02:41
Hey DF, I reckon it is the tail of a SAAB...

Kharon
12th Sep 2012, 22:12
.When your office in deep within a grid locked city and your main reason for existence is an airfield, a long, long way from there. This is a must have item when you charge the client $2.00 a minute travelling time. :D


Time saver. (http://pal-v.com/)

Ex FSO GRIFFO
13th Sep 2012, 04:25
Sorry Mr 'K',

You're in a 'grid locked city' = Control Zone!!:eek::eek:

"Clearance NOT avbl, remain outside Controlled Airspace.....Area QNH 1013..." (Area QNH, 1013 = 'F.O'.....)
:ugh::{
:ok:

FullOppositeRudder
17th Sep 2012, 03:27
Finally getting around to scanning 60 years of colour slides to digital.

This one at ADL somewhere around 1965 +/-

Perutz C18 emulsion hasn't aged well, but considering this was taken close to sunset, it's probably close to how it was.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0004r.jpg

http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/?action=view&current=IMG_0004r.jpg

Dora-9
17th Sep 2012, 04:04
FOR - a gorgeous photo! Can't you just hear those Darts?

This is VH-RMP (originally Butler's VH-BAT), sister of the ill-fated RMQ (crashed at Port Hedland).

FullOppositeRudder
18th Sep 2012, 10:29
Thank you Dora-9 for the additional information. :)

My interest in specific fleet aircraft and histories started with the first 727s so I was unaware of the rego of this particular Viscount. I'll post a few others taken in the same era later.

Dora-9
18th Sep 2012, 20:24
FOR - I look forward to seeing more photos of this era.

I had a rush of blood there in order to respond quickly, a roundabout way of saying that I was wrong. Actually RMP's "sister" (the other ex-Butler V-747 Viscount) was VH-RMO (initially BUT), grounded in 1970 followng the RMQ accident. RMQ was actually an ex-TAA V-720 Viscount, previously TVB.

Ex FSO GRIFFO
19th Sep 2012, 09:39
Hey Dora,
Re 'Can't you just hear those Darts?'

NOPE! And that's the problem....can't hear a F#....n thing....

Wossat?? :p

frigatebird
20th Sep 2012, 01:37
Yep, put em up.... If you have any good ones of the cockpit instrumentation in flight that will be bound to get the ultralight glass cockpit guys talking....:ok:

FullOppositeRudder
20th Sep 2012, 12:29
The second of TAA's "Whispering T Jets" (VH-TJB) Possibly taken around 1965 at ADL.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0006er_zps1b3e7d1d.jpg
http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/?action=view&current=IMG_0006er_zps1b3e7d1d.jpg&newest=1

Wonderworld
20th Sep 2012, 15:27
FOR these are sensational. Please keep posting them :ok:

FullOppositeRudder
21st Sep 2012, 11:27
Convair 440 (VH-BZF) at ADL - mid 60's again
I am trying to decide whether radials sound better than Darts .... ? :sad:
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0003e2r_zpse90fb4c9.jpg

Dora-9
21st Sep 2012, 20:19
Radial engines make music; Darts scream!

Who can forget watching the CV-440 starting, as the entire aeroplane disappears inside a great cloud of blue smoke?

Fabulous photos, FOR!

Aye Ess
21st Sep 2012, 21:22
Thanks Full opposite....many of us old timers are really enjoying your photos. I guess you must have been employed at Adelaide. The quality and clarity of the images that are half a century old,is really remarkable. Please continue with zeal and gusto. :ok:

slackie
21st Sep 2012, 22:27
A bit of "aero-porn"
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/384057_10151240477136563_1229733278_n.jpg
Scheduled for it's first public appearance on the 29th September!!

And taken about an hour ago...
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578540_10151241739356563_1532271655_n.jpg

Jabawocky
22nd Sep 2012, 02:43
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz

Would like to have been there slakie, a mate (-10) from Brisbane is going over.

Make sure you get plenty more pics :ok:

FullOppositeRudder
22nd Sep 2012, 09:30
If two radials sound nice, then four must be better (and it was) :)
Douglas DC-6B (VH-INH) at Adelaide - again mid 60's
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0011_Ar_zpsec2247bb.jpg

This photo demonstrates the limitations confronting the amateur photographer at that time. Film was expensive so extreme economy was enforced, and fixed focus lenses were the order of the day. This time the aircraft was too close to fit in the frame so it was necessary to click on what one was offered.

In this respect it's easier these days, memory cards are inexpensive and zoom lenses are standard. The downside is that it can be very difficult to get relatively unfettered photographic access to aircraft as one did then. We still keep trying however ....

slackie
22nd Sep 2012, 20:56
Getting REALLY close now!!
7vQOY3d89JE
:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:

Oakape
22nd Sep 2012, 21:10
Love that aeroplane!!!

Jabawocky
22nd Sep 2012, 23:06
Ya killing me slackie!

What's nicer than the sound of a Merlin?

OZBUSDRIVER
22nd Sep 2012, 23:49
That's easy Jaba!

TWO MERLINS!
:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:

slackie
23rd Sep 2012, 07:17
Jaba... cheap flights across the Tasman at the moment!! Ya could even fuel up the RV and island hop!! It'd be worth the trip!

rotorblades
23rd Sep 2012, 08:02
When u say Merlin I assume you mean RR not Swearingen/Fairchild :)
It's in an englishmans DNA when he hears a RR Merlin he gets a warm fuzzy feeling!

megle2
23rd Sep 2012, 09:17
Can't get across on Saturday
But definitely in future, the Mosquito is a must visit for me

Jabawocky
23rd Sep 2012, 10:42
Rotor :ok:

Long time ...no curry and red wine.....need to fix that!

Yes the RR or Packard type. Speaking of which if you have been lurking in the local area lately the Mustang is singing again!

Sorry Slackie.....as tempting as that is.

the rim
23rd Sep 2012, 12:46
your little number gets me to look up every time it goes overhead......funny the other day when you were chased by that nasty...but lovely sounding warbird.....keep it up.....it also looks good when I am out on the water in the passage

FullOppositeRudder
24th Sep 2012, 12:17
Back in the early jet era - The first of Ansett ANA's Fan Jets, VH-RME again at YPAD

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0001ecc_zps97fdd912.jpg

By George
24th Sep 2012, 21:18
Beautiful shot, with one of the nicest aeroplanes made. That model Holden was a good one too and look at the passengers. No short shorts disappearing up their bums and no tattoos. Elegant dresses with hand bags and men wearing suits. Looks like an Electra hiding in the background, ah...to go back in time.
Thanks for the photo, pure therapy.

Aye Ess
24th Sep 2012, 23:24
Hey,it's By George....I had a chance meeting with him recently...nice fella.

Anyhoo,I agree ByG. Back then the pax would have paid for their tickets with cash or cheque (no plastic cards) in pounds schillings and pence. If the a/c was delayed no one would have abused the traffic officer with the F word...When did the world change for the worse?

Excellent photo Full Opposite :ok: Got some more?

Dora-9
24th Sep 2012, 23:36
Yes, By Geoge is a good guy. But did he notice what's peeping into the RHS of the frame???

Great photos, FOR, please sir, can we have more?

FullOppositeRudder
24th Sep 2012, 23:48
Thank you for your comments. I've just a few more pictures left - including one of the Electra hiding in the background - well spotted :ok:

Regarding the EH Holden ute - they were a very good model indeed - I drove a green and white EH sedan to get these pics. Seven bearing crankshaft 179 motor too - power to spare! I had to fit the heater and a radio myself - they weren't standard.

To comment on an earlier question ..... I wasn't employed at Adelaide airport; my aviation involvement was / is in another somewhat diverse area. However a rekindled interest in photography is causing me to revisit ADL more often these days.

One other observation in respect of those already posted.... The term airport security was almost unheard of. There was a naive innocence in society where everyone was "OK" and trusted, and which made relatively close access to interesting aircraft very easy.

Alas it's not quite so these days - more's the pity :{

Regards,
FOR

john_tullamarine
24th Sep 2012, 23:48
Red Tail 727 and L188 .. fond memories of long ago

jas24zzk
25th Sep 2012, 09:52
Hmm,
pretty sure the Red ute is an EJ, not an EH.

yer i know you're all going to poke me, that I am saying so because of the tail-lights. wrong, any d0pe knows they shared the same tail lamps for the ute across the 2 models.

The differences are a lil more subtle, when viewing from the rear.

Tailgate lettering. Much bolder and wider spaced on the EJ.
Lack of Drip Rail chrome trims. Only fitted to 'Special' utes on the EJ, and standard on the EH.

Other than that, front pictures required to really be sure :)

Cheers
Jas

lord forgive holden and the grey motor!

FullOppositeRudder
25th Sep 2012, 11:49
From jas24zzk:

Hmm,
pretty sure the Red ute is an EJ, not an EH. Jas, I'm more inclined to agree with you than might be apparent. My initial call was that it was indeed an EJ.

However last Sunday an aviation friend - something of a Holden expert who also owned an EH in an earlier lifetime - was looking at this set and especially at another picture of a different aircraft which includes a Mobil ute on the ADL tarmac from the front LHS, and he was certain that it was an EH - highlighting the radiator grill as being the definitive feature. My assumption was that it was the same ute. I may be wrong in that.

Thank you for your observation. Up until last weekend I would have agreed with you; and you may indeed still be correct. :) The most significant difference of course - as you have suggested - lay in what was under the bonnet.

I'll post the other picture in a day or so.

More later.

Regards
FOR

jas24zzk
25th Sep 2012, 12:09
FOR,
if you have a frontal pic, then that would confirm it for sure.

Keeping in mind, that front panels can be changed (not something you'd expect on a near new car), the surest way to tell the two apart from the front is to look at the vent(s) under the wipers.

On an EJ, its two piece, with solid scuttle between, and an EH's vent is one piece running most of the way across the scuttle.

There's nothing to say that this car could be technically wrong in use of an EJ tailgate and emblems, and the missing drip rail mouldings. It could well be an EH, minimised under a fleet buy....all sorts of shoe went on in those days.

The radiator grille, is a bolt on item, but the vent grille is structural, and requires substantial surgery to change.

As for my technical interest in the model, first car (and resto) was an EJ, and I am led to believe I was concieved in an EH prem :}


Pop quiz for you holden expert friend......what is special about the HD holden (apart from it being the least desirable...after a crappodore) ???

zlin77
25th Sep 2012, 12:33
I believe that it was the most produced model....

jas24zzk
25th Sep 2012, 12:54
nada!

Hint, a feature of the HD was a world first :)

T28D
25th Sep 2012, 23:04
Built in rust ??????

FullOppositeRudder
26th Sep 2012, 00:03
I think my friend has buzzed off across the ditch to have a look at the Mozzie.

The HR was a forgettable model.

Let me see .... A world first?

Well there was the X2 engine option but I'm sure that twin carbies have been done before.

The pedestrian slicer front bodywork ....

Nothin' unique about disk brake options or ball joint front suspensions ...

One of the blokes in our town had one which had the most vile mustard coloured paint I've ever seen ...

Nope! Give up! Pass! :confused:

jas24zzk
26th Sep 2012, 07:47
First car produced with Curved side glass.

Funny enough, the HD was designed in the US, but we got the feature here first.

Trent 972
26th Sep 2012, 08:54
Evening Jas, What about the 1957 Imperial Crown??? :E
1957: Imperial (http://histomobile.com/history.php?id=2733) introduces the industry's first curved side window glass and a compound curved windshield.

PA39
26th Sep 2012, 08:55
Showing our ages now fellas. The X2 first appeared with the HD and carried over to the HR where the 186S became into vogue. Heres one for you... I once owned an S4 EH !!:eek:

FullOppositeRudder
26th Sep 2012, 11:08
I'm glad I got a photo of one these - this one is VH-ANW at YPAD in the same general era as the others. Apologies for the poor colour of the sky, it somehow seems to have been a 8/8 clag day anyway.

Oh yes - there's a ute in there too .... ;)

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0002er_1.jpg

Super Cecil
26th Sep 2012, 11:10
They be 1820's?

Trent 972
26th Sep 2012, 11:24
I'm more than happy to defer to Jas here, but I reckon that's an EH because it looks to have a round fuel cap , whereas the EJ had a hinged fuel filler flap at the left side rear upper.
Jas, Whaddaya reckon?
EJ
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1HkVlhFjVaH74rIaQKfbnc-e7pAg8keHXxqkiOtc4e3egpMdL

EH
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqO59RCa4v_Bpf17VUntdc4_DZKzAkroMZ_lOZ5n-yhSi8KRb9

Jabawocky
26th Sep 2012, 11:54
Trent..... not much gets past you! Clearly too much time on thy hands :}

Well done sir!:D

Rudder.......keep em coming!

jas24zzk
26th Sep 2012, 22:24
Evening Jas, What about the 1957 Imperial Crown??? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif
Quote:
1957: Imperial (http://histomobile.com/history.php?id=2733) introduces the industry's first curved side window glass and a compound curved windshield.

Time I punched my source in the head :ouch:....damm you can't do that to a history book!

jas24zzk
26th Sep 2012, 22:34
Not sure on the EH there trent. The front panels say EH.

Picture isn't clear enough to view the wiper grille, or fuel flap, but that might just be my Aldi style screen :}

Ex FSO GRIFFO
27th Sep 2012, 01:03
Re 'ANW',......

As the chorus of the song featuring this aircraft goes....
"She was in love with the pilot, but he was in love with the sky....".

You can guess the theme.....:hmm:

Applies to many of us I reckon.....:sad:
:ok:

FullOppositeRudder
27th Sep 2012, 02:49
Certainly does for me. ....:)
We are so fortunate to live in the era of the aircraft .....:ok:

FOR

FullOppositeRudder
27th Sep 2012, 03:24
I'm probably pushing the limits of this topic here (Moderators please delete if you agree), but here are enlargements of the areas mentioned in an earlier contribution. (I'm also pushing the limits of the camera and original emulsion capabilities)

The one including the fuel cap possibly solves the equation.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0002_CRTN_Ute_closeup.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0002_CRTN_Ute_Windscreen.jpg

tail wheel
27th Sep 2012, 04:31
Super Cecil. I think they may be Wrights, not Pratts? VH-ANW Bu No 13624, ex 42-93685, last VH-GAK, now purportedly preserved at Myalup, WA 6220.

"VH-ANW was part of the McDonalds restaurant at Midland, Perth from 1987 to 2000. It was displayed in fictitious markings as VH-MMF "Fortescue" of MacRobertson Miller Airlines. After being stored at RAAF Caversham in W.A. the aircraft was sold to Mr Blair Howe of Myalup, W.A. The aircraft was trucked from Caversham to Myalup on 23rd August 2003 to be displayed on Mr Howe's airstrip."

NZFlyingKiwi
27th Sep 2012, 07:10
Wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere in the world but Ardmore this morning!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/NZFlyingKiwi/3DeHavillandDH98MosquitoFBMk26ZK-MOS.jpg

Rolling.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/NZFlyingKiwi/7DeHavillandDH98MosquitoFBMk26ZK-MOS.jpg

Airborne for the first time.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/NZFlyingKiwi/9DeHavillandDH98MosquitoFBMk26ZK-MOS.jpg

Been a while since that shape's been seen in the sky!
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/NZFlyingKiwi/10MosquitoandTrojan.jpg

jas24zzk
27th Sep 2012, 08:18
oohhhh la la!!!!!!!!!!


time for a man moment!

VH-XXX
27th Sep 2012, 09:16
Hey Jabba, do you do this when you pass Bo's??

sWMdzEMX_WQ

FullOppositeRudder
27th Sep 2012, 09:37
Well done everyone involved in this project at Ardmore . I just might have to come across to the next airshow in which it stars. I've yet to see a Mozzie flying. :sad:

Very nice pictures too. :ok:

VH-XXX
27th Sep 2012, 10:00
Last I heard was that Point Cook museum had shelved their Mozzie project but that was a few years ago. Imagine them up side by side!

ForkTailedDrKiller
27th Sep 2012, 10:31
Hey Jabba, do you do this when you pass Bo's??

Passing a Bo is an experience that Jaba is is yet to have! :E:E:E

Bubba

Jabawocky
27th Sep 2012, 11:09
Ahhh no, I did experience it, when you were flying the Retard Vehicle :E:ok:

And no, Lancairs pass Bo's way better than I can.

Lancair70
27th Sep 2012, 20:43
Re 'ANW',......

As the chorus of the song featuring this aircraft
goes....
"She was in love with the pilot, but he was in love with the
sky....".



I think you'll find the rego in that song is PWN ?

greybeard
27th Sep 2012, 22:31
Ref 9942

They are Wright Cyclones on the DC-3, still in place when it was at Big Mac.

Two other ASA 3s were used in WA for MMA in early '70s, I had the dubious pleasure of flying both, one giving us a spectacular failure at Roebourne with a section of the front dome missing, overspeed propellor etc.

VERY noise producing as against the P&Ws of MMA.

:ok:

allthecoolnamesarego
27th Sep 2012, 23:44
VH-XXX
*
Last I heard was that Point Cook museum had shelved their Mozzie project but that was a few years ago. Imagine them up side by side!
*


I was out there the other day and asked about the RAAF Mozzie. Still chuging along.....slowly.....
It will only be restored to static status, it was never going to fly.

VH-XXX
28th Sep 2012, 01:22
I have a relative working on it and I recall him saying that it would be a long term project and he probably wouldn't be around to see the end of it. They do great work out there and it's certainly worth a visit for anyone who is visiting Melbourne and has aviation bones in their body.

FullOppositeRudder
28th Sep 2012, 08:59
This one was taken from the excellent level one external public viewing 'balcony' at the original Adelaide terminal building. Apologies are tended for the poor quality colour - some of these really have suffered from the ravages of time and temperature.

I've manage to avoid capturing the rego mark on the fuselage; it may be VH-ANW again or perhaps another in the ASA fleet - others may know .....

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0012ceR.jpg

triton140
28th Sep 2012, 11:13
FOR - some great pics there, really enjoying them because I was SLF around that time.

For fixing colour, Kodak (http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/software/imgEnhancePlugIns/roc.jhtml?pq-path=13939) has a great piece of software which will fix colour with one click. I use it all the time to fix my old Kodachrome slides from the 60's (lots of them mouldy and the colour shot to pieces).

Here's a quick one click colour correction - with a bit of work it could be finessed. There are other ways to do it, PM me if you like!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8180/8032470281_a7fe1959be.jpg



Cheers, and keep 'em coming!

FullOppositeRudder
29th Sep 2012, 00:29
Thanks triton140, That's an enormous improvement :ok:. Will follow up with a PM over the weekend if I may .....

FOR

dude65
30th Sep 2012, 00:02
A mate of mine took these last Friday as the boys did practice runs for Saturday nights Riverfire festival. The person in the rear has the tough job of taking pictures with their iPhone.

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y484/gavthegoodguy/277273_287732704666842_447675475_o_zps0b5a64f8.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y484/gavthegoodguy/291200_287738077999638_1311563973_o_zpsf4fc7b1d.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y484/gavthegoodguy/325588_287727364667376_1634450068_o_zps89e8ed70.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y484/gavthegoodguy/132504_287735681333211_995631824_o_zpsa7a96133.jpg

slackie
30th Sep 2012, 08:01
Just for Jaba!!

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576504_10151251647456563_614412368_n.jpg

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420377_10151251647601563_2003406814_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404747_10151251647841563_328338027_n.jpg

Well done to the pilots David Philips & Keith Skilling, Wal Denham and all his incredibly talented crew at AvSpecs, and most of all to Jerry Yagen for allowing his aircraft to be displayed in New Zealand prior to taking it home to the US.

FullOppositeRudder
30th Sep 2012, 11:44
Getting towards the end of these now. VH-TFK on the ramp at YPAD, taken (it would seem) on the same day as the earlier shot of the DC-6B - sometime in the mid 1960's.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0005ecr.jpg

Only two more pictures to go - at least from/at YPAD.

Jabawocky
30th Sep 2012, 13:47
Slacko you are a tease!!! :ok:

Dora-9
30th Sep 2012, 20:16
FOR,

Ah, the Mighty Mouse - pity it's in the wrong colour scheme! Seriously, I'm really enjoying your postings...

Trojan1981
2nd Oct 2012, 00:50
Dude: Great pics! An infinitely better combat aircraft it may be, but the Rhino will never match the spectator appeal of the F-111 and it's 'dump & burn' party trick. The most lethal machine in the Airshow Combat Group arsenal!

Slackie, very nice! :ok:

Capn Bloggs
2nd Oct 2012, 01:13
Here's a tricky when and where...

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w334/capnbloggs/A3-78ondesctoWillypostCBRflypast800.jpg

Ex FSO GRIFFO
2nd Oct 2012, 01:41
This man is a pilot....so we can't show you his face.....

:E

No towering Cu, so probably not Butterworth, unless t'ain't in the 'Cu season'.....Then it might be over Willie...??

:}

Jabawocky
2nd Oct 2012, 03:34
Perhaps from NZ to Oz or the other way around?

RENURPP
2nd Oct 2012, 03:54
Bloggs,
do you have a copy of the harbour bridge photo?

Capn Bloggs
2nd Oct 2012, 04:45
Perhaps from NZ to Oz or the other way around?
Norfolk Island for a fuel stop! "What was the weather again?!" ;)

T'was Willy > Canberra, 8 March 1977, for a flyby for the Queen's silver jubilee, in concert with myriad other jets (inc pigs and skyhawks). Details on page 4 of this:http://www.adfjournal.adc.edu.au/UserFiles/issues/4%201977%20May_Jun.pdf

Here you go, Renurrp:

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w334/capnbloggs/OverSydney800.jpg

I wonder what'd happen if that was done today?! :}

Capt Fathom
2nd Oct 2012, 05:17
Which one is inverted? The Earth or the Mirage!

RENURPP
2nd Oct 2012, 07:21
Wasn't there one taken from your aircraft with the bridge beneath and your name "Bloggs" placarded nicely on the helmet?

Trojan1981
3rd Oct 2012, 00:31
I seem to remember that photo!

Nice shots Bloggs :ok:

Dogimed
3rd Oct 2012, 03:45
http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w334/capnbloggs/OverSydney.jpg

http://www.pprune.org/5189040-post23.html

Dog

Keg
3rd Oct 2012, 04:35
Reminds me of a similar piccie of a Hornet (I think) but somehow in the production it had been 'mirrored' and was backward. Have I remembered that correctly? I was probably in high school when that piccie appeared so may have remembered it incorrectly. :eek:

RENURPP
3rd Oct 2012, 05:49
That's he one, with Bloggs at the controls
:ok: nice shot.

The mag was only $2 a copy in 1984, what does. Copy cost now?

FullOppositeRudder
4th Oct 2012, 04:45
I think this is V-BZF once again.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0029ecR_1.jpg

FullOppositeRudder
6th Oct 2012, 02:37
Piaggio P166

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0001CErEE.jpg

The poor photo 'quality' suggests that I shouldn't even post this one, but the uniqueness of the subject has prevailed ......

frigatebird
6th Oct 2012, 03:51
Thought I'd dig out a few old ones..

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/volcanos/scan0001.jpg
Ambrym


http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/volcanos/scan0003.jpg
Lopevi

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/bird__photo/volcanos/scan0004.jpg
Gaua

(I didn't take the first one..)

Ozzie Mozzie
6th Oct 2012, 09:20
poor photo 'quality'

If you have the time and inclination, it's quite a simple procedure to correct those older prints for colour fade. Using photoshop you could also reign in the highlights which appear to be slightly blown.

I'd be interested to know what film these old photos were taken on, looks like a fair bit of slide but perhaps not all of them are?

Arnold E
6th Oct 2012, 10:03
FOR

Is that last photo in Adelaide, I am from there and have worked at ADL and dont recognize the background, is that looking toward Tapleys Hill Road, if it is ADL.??

FullOppositeRudder
6th Oct 2012, 21:41
Is that last photo in Adelaide, I am from there and have worked at ADL and dont recognize the background, is that looking toward Tapleys Hill Road, if it is ADL.??Yes, it is indeed ADL, and hard to recognise today in light of the enormous development in the past 45+ years. All of these were taken from the original terminal building before it was ever extended outwards towards what is now the A2. Tapleys Hill Road is the in background :ok:

My estimate is that the area behind the aircraft would now be the location of the RFDS complex - and other buildings in that area. These days I'm usually far too busy negotiating the new traffic arrangements to adequately take in the more interesting parts of the ADL experience. :sad:

FOR

FullOppositeRudder
6th Oct 2012, 21:52
If you have the time and inclination, it's quite a simple procedure to correct those older prints for colour fade. Using photoshop you could also reign in the highlights which appear to be slightly blown.All of these have been "worked on" on the way you describe. The slides have taken on a slant towards the red / brown end of the spectrum, and I've used various options available in my program (Arcsoft Photo Studio) to lift them as best I can. One other aspect of this is that there are quite a few variables in the perception of correct colours as finally viewed in any given situation, not the least of which will be either the settings or the natural rendering of the end user's monitor or screen. What I see on my screen is probably quite different to how it might be viewed on another. The colour perception of our eyes can also adapt to changes in the overall hue of a given subject, and can give variable or sometimes confusing results.

I'd be interested to know what film these old photos were taken on, looks like a fair bit of slide but perhaps not all of them are? These were all taken with a Pentina SLR camera and Perutz C-18 slide film. Perutz - a German product if I remember correctly - distributed and processed by Hanimex in Australia, was highly regarded in it's day for colour accuracy and it's 50 ASA speed. However in nearly all instances the original dyes did not stand the test of time and despite careful storage, they have nearly all suffered in this way. There may have been variables in the processing also.

Thank you for your suggestion - it's well received. I've tried, there may indeed be better ways of doing it. :ok: In any event there are only one or two more remaining shots in my collection from this location and era.

FOR
.

triton140
7th Oct 2012, 02:20
Perutz was a great film - my favourite was Kodachrome 25, I've restored a heap of slides back to near original condition, despite having been stored in a damp shed for forty years. Some of them had turned magenta, amazing what you can recover though.

FOR - apologies, haven't had a play with Elements yet, but looks like ArcSoft is doing a good job!

Desert Flower
7th Oct 2012, 03:20
All of these have been "worked on" on the way you describe.

Good grief - I used the one step photo fix on the Piaggio in PaintShopPro 10 & got it to look way better than the original!

DF.

FullOppositeRudder
7th Oct 2012, 09:30
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_0007ecr.jpg

Point taken - last one.....

gerry111
8th Oct 2012, 14:19
Clinton, Grumpy Monkey Mirage A3-78 looks to have a 286 gallon centre line tank. Well spotted, the deployed speedbrakes. I think that the "panniers" with the Dzus fasteners were mainly used to do a bit of smuggling from Tengah to Butterworth by 75 and 3 Sqns. And that they were "Big Jugs" ie 386 gallon? Ours at 3 Sqn sure was. ( Almost everyone in 1981 wanted a then brand new Sony or National VCR and blank tapes . The baggers' wives wanted to copy "Debbie does Dallas" and other similar quality movies...) So that aircraft had 600 gallons along with 55 in the leading edges plus 220g in the supersonics. Along with 286g in the centreline. A fair bit or range with the afterburner off. Goodness, the Skull may have even been the pilot in this photo.... Cheers, Despot 20.

gerry111
8th Oct 2012, 15:17
Bloody hell, Cpt Bloggs! That looks like A3-116 in which I spent the most exciting hour of my life on 24th Jan 1980. (Just checking the date on my office wall "MachBuster certificate". An engine air test in the then 77Sqn dual Mirage. Flying through the speed of sound. Then later, hooning low level around Myall lakes. Sadly, A3-116 was broken up but the fin is preserved outside the Australian Air League HQ at Coffs Harbour Airport. On my infrequent visits there, I give it a slap and kiss. Thanks, so much to my pilot Brian Johnson. I wonder what you are doing these days? Cheers, Despot 20.

Keg
8th Oct 2012, 21:50
Last I knew Brian was a Qantas 767 Captain. I vaguely recall that he may have moved on from the 767. Perth based 737 Captain now perhaps?

FullOppositeRudder
9th Oct 2012, 04:03
Something a little more recent:

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/InnocentBystander68/IMG_5586_rot_CR_750.jpg

Trent 972
9th Oct 2012, 09:35
Something for the QF boys to get used to seeing.
HaHa. Right Body Gear on the runway and Right Wing Gear still on approach. (YSSY RWY 34L @ 2000 ft. in)
SMACKDOWN! :eek:
The windsock (visible under #4 engine) looks quite benign too.

and the second picture-
Interesting use of landing lights -at that height and daylight!