The Home of Photos in Dunnunda! Mk I

[chimbu warrior]

The main disadvantage with the 86" prop below, is the noise at 2850 rpm.


Actually, that's the best part.

[185skywagon]

Chimbu,
yer, well it is to me too, 'cept some people in town don't think so, in the early morning.
Of course being in the front left all the time, I never get to hear it.
I do notice ground crew covering their ears every take-off, when i am working.

[TonKat]

Doesn't worry me!:ok:

[Jabawocky]

I could post a video with 185s permission! :ok:

J

[185skywagon]

jaba,
go ahead. no probs, I think. :O

[Jabawocky]

OK I will edit out the inverted beat up over the house while beachie was mooning folk out the window, and maybe I should take out the loading of 16 kids for the joy flight!:}

Seriously I will have to work out the upload first! be back to ya!

Now turn up the volume folks! :ok:

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[ForkTailedDrKiller]

On a bit of a C180/185 kick here, huh!

Well here's a couple for ya, from the good old days!

VH-KGT when we first met soon after she arrived in Oz as a new aircraft in ........ 1981 (I think!).

Yes, she was full IFR - along with her sister ship KFT, probably the two nicest C185s to come into the country. 'Bout $110k new, if my memory serves me correctly.

Anyone for where the pic was taken?

http://www.fototime.com/6C0A061E537BE88/standard.jpg

I cut my C180/185 teeth in the C180 below and came within a bee's dick of buying it, back in the early 80's. This aeroplane has some history! Ex-Seventh Day Adventist Church aeroplane, they eventually bought it back.

"The "Andrew Stewart" (call sign VH-SDA) was the first mission plane owned and operated by the Adventist Church anywhere in the world. VH-SDA flew safely for many years in mission service in both Papua New Guinea and for the North New South Wales Conference in Australia. Today this historic aircraft is preserved and on display at Sunnyside, Ellen White's old home, in Cooranbong, NSW.The "Andrew Stewart" (call sign VH-SDA) was the first mission plane owned and operated by the Adventist Church anywhere in the world."

http://www.fototime.com/4C781ED4A7BFBD9/standard.jpg

VH-UAX, the C182RG got rolled up in a ball in the Gold Coast hinterland when some young fella ended his life-cycle beating up his girlfriend's chook house!

Dr :8

[Jabawocky]

YWCK perhaps?

If not it looks a lot like it!

[harrowing]

Jabawocky, I think you nailed it.
I haven't been there much since I started learning with Bob K in the late 70s.
Another photo I wish I had taken there once at an airshow was the line-up of ASK FOR and SEX.
Cheers :ok:

[Corkey McFuz]

KGT
Jeezuz Corkey,
I flew in KGT many years ago up northern Aus, Mt isa, Darwin, Cairns, and back to Brisbane.
I was pointing it in the direction of Bathurst Island at appox 1600 ft when 2 FA18s flew under us. bloody exciting.
the 2 pilots were Laurie and Tony also the owners at the time of KGT Bloody good plane and I think it was IF Rated as well.
Cheers Millski http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif

Thanks Millsky, interesting to hear of some of KGT's history before she went to NZ.
And it still is a Bloody good plane although no longer IF rated.
Currently living on the West coast of S.I in NZ, Is very well looked after, has all the flash gizmos and flys like a dream. :ok:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/mrmcfuz/mini-P1050054.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/mrmcfuz/mini-P1030655.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/mrmcfuz/mini-P1030305.jpg

Unfortunately, I haven't had the privilege of flying it since it had the new prop (yet :E) but apparently, as with Cracker's, it has significantly better take off and climb performance.


And DR. K, thanks for the old pic of her :ok: Any more ? :)

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

And DR. K, thanks for the old pic of her http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/thumbs.gif Any more ? http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif

Well !!!!!!! Been scratching around in the old albums. :E

http://www.fototime.com/0053866AFF31F63/standard.jpg

Dr :8

[Corkey McFuz]

Wo cheers ! I knew it had some damage due ground loop once and there's the proof. Any idea when that was roughly ?


And I hope it wasn't you ! :}

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Any idea when that was roughly ?

Corky, I have to troll back through the archives of my mind.

The original owner traded KGT to Rex Aviation on a new C210 in ......... 1985/86, I think. We had a book running on how long it would be until it "went around". I think it was about 2 yrs - longer than we expected - so about 1987.

Stumbled across the bent metal at Townsville one Sunday afternoon.

And I hope it wasn't you ! http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/badteeth.gif

Nope - I have never bent one!

Dr :8

[tinpis]

Anyone who is that numb-nuts, and does that to a 185, should be shot with a load of steaming bat ****

[ZEEBEE]

Anyone who is that numb-nuts, and does that to a 185, should be shot with a load of steaming bat ****

You wouldn't like to hear about poor old KPA then,

Currently on its fifth life...that's four ground loops in its life, only one due to a a wheel hub failure,,,the rest due to just plain LOC.

[Corkey McFuz]

Thanks Doc :ok: :D

Gosh that is a sad sight though, poor thing :sad:

[tinpis]

Heres a purdy one.Anyone know it?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/tinpis/harrys180.jpg

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Hey Harrowing,

Re the callsigns -
In the mid 60's I was training at Aircraft Rentals, BK, when 'JC' bought
SEX the Twin Comanche,
SIN was reserved for a PA31 &
SON was going to be a Seneca - all to be parked
'out the front' in that order.....

And we were warned NOT to ask the looovly 'June' for sex when making a booking.....
:ok:

[Warbo]

Here is KFT. Taken at YBCG. Recently moved to begin the restoration. I reckon it has about 200 hours TT.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/dwarburton/04112008.jpg

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Here is KFT

Ohhhhhh, that resoration seems to be progressing nicely - given that it was pranged in 1981!

Warbo, I have been searching my albums for a pic of the wreck - but no luck as yet. I don't remember it having that much un-bent metal!

It was cartwheeled across the downs while mustering sheep. In the process of getting rolled up in a ball, the top engine cowl tried to come through the windscreen and the left wheel made a very good attempt to come through the pilot's door. When it came to rest the engine was 100m from the rest of aeroplane.

Legend has it that the pilot punched his way out through a window - and continued mustering on foot!

Dr :8

[RadioSaigon]

Anyone know it?

Nope. Registered to Canterbury Aviation in NZCH at present... although the last time he & I crossed swords his 185 was a yellow one (I think) and I'm pretty sure it wasn't JCW -although on that occasion the reg was masked out as he was doing some secret-smurf work for a govt agency that shall remain anonymous :rolleyes: which apparently gave him carte blanche to behave however he saw fit regardless of regs...

Photo clearly taken at NZQN.

[Corkey McFuz]

Heres a purdy one.Anyone know it?

Yea just recently changed owners. Apparently to get a 520 up the front :oh:. Was also ex OZ, cant remember the rego...

RadioSaigon
A yellow 185 at canty aviation ?? How long ago was that ? sure it was them...

[Pinky the pilot]

Slight thread drift

I reckon it has about 200 hours TT.

Ouch!!! But still not as bad as one incident I remember reading about somewhere where someone once wrote off a Mk IX Spitfire in a landing accident where TTAF was about 25hrs.:eek::{:{:{

T'would be easily repairable now!:sad:

[RadioSaigon]

...sure it was them...

Yup, absolutely. Only thing I ain't so sure of now is the colour... it may have been a dark/dirty red. It was some time ago, early this decade.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Now for someth'n a little different!

I "re-discovered" this pic while looking for one of the KFT wreck.

1) Where?

2) What?

3) When?

Dr :8

http://www.fototime.com/889AE0D94E2983C/standard.jpg

[slackie]

Nice to finally see one of these in NZ. Grant and Wayne's new toy...
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs038.snc1/2669_71610716562_707881562_2303832_4040979_n.jpg

...and departing...
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs038.snc1/2669_71610721562_707881562_2303833_1072229_n.jpg

and the location (at dawn)...
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs038.snc1/2669_71610691562_707881562_2303827_8385224_n.jpg

[Ultralights]

http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/496223610_UmbRU-L.jpg
HDR image. no photoshop!

[Chimbu chuckles]

YSBK...Final 11 L...a 'bit' high.

[Ultralights]

not when in a steep sideslip!

[SGT Schulz]

Forkie,
John Brewer reef and floating hotel?

[Tmbstory]

FTDK:

Good picture and glad to see you have flown some "standard to be judged on" machines.

Tmb

[tinpis]

John Brewer reef and floating hotel?


Yep off Mackay thereabouts in 87.Didnt last there long
Used to trundle over it in the Fokkerer enroute CNS-HMI

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

1) What? The Floating Hotel!
2) Where? John Brewer reef - off Townsville
3) When? Beggered if I know - late 80's early 90's
4) Where is it now? Last I heard it was anchored in the Mekong in Ho's town!

Not one of the great success stories of Nth Qld tourism! Kinda like being in the middle of a wet desert. You could just make out Palm Is to the NW.

Once you have:

snorkelled in the lagoon
swum in the floating swimming pool
played tennis on the floating tennis
got pissed in the floating barThere was not much else to do? Oh, yes there was! I know of at least one set of twins that were conceived in a top floor suite, though sea-sickness could dampen the enthusiasm for that particular activity!

Dr :8

[Pinky the pilot]

I know of at least one set of twins that were conceived in a top floor suite,

Bragging again are we Forkie?:E

[sprocket check]

if you're in a steep sideslip, how come your photo is so perfectly level? What are you in and what is a HDR?

sc

[tinpis]

Yer right, the Vietcong took it on.

[Chimbu chuckles]

Sarge has scanned some more pics and emailed them to me in my on going quest to replace pics I lost in Rabaul in 1994.

P2-ASI, The Aerostar 680p I used to fly - although at the time THIS pic was taken I was flying F28s for PX.

http://www.fototime.com/{97AC843D-7FED-47B8-8F41-1BDC96A48524}/picture.JPG

The ramp outside the SPAC (South Pacific Aeroclub) in the 90s. Mac Lee's (ex Talair) C402a, C185 (flown both) and Navajo and the old Winjeel we used to start up and taxi around after 'a few'.

http://www.fototime.com/{AB37BB68-F32E-4A33-B52B-EAC6973FF908}/picture.JPG

Heiwini where I once pulled 2000kg of coffee out in one load in P2-RDB (an ex TAA -100 later converted to -200 Twotter)...never tried THAT again:=

http://www.fototime.com/{8916E7E1-666D-4B92-8E39-0A0D362FE1B2}/picture.JPG

The Winjeel and P39 (that was recovered from 'Bulldog' strip) outside the 'new' aeroclub:yuk:

http://www.fototime.com/{71755BEB-BB94-4990-A32B-05923D74CA31}/picture.JPG

[Pinky the pilot]

Chuckles; As I remember, Mack Lee's 402 was a C model. You sure that the A model in the piccie was'nt Richard Rowe's? P2-SAV.

Mack also had a C206. Don't recall him having a 185.:confused:

[Ultralights]

HDR is High Dynamic Range photography, basically 3 photos are taken in rapid succession, 1st being normal exposure level, the next at -2 exposure, making it really dark, and the 3rd being over exposed by 2, all 3 images are then merged, resulting in a shot that looks like that,

as for the angle, just aimed it.

[tinpis]

He did Pinky.

[Chimbu chuckles]

It was a 402a when I flew it for him once on a day off from Talair. Same aircraft he later died in. I think he operated a B too at one time.

I have only ever flown a C on one occasion, Richard Leahy's P2-KAA ex Lae when our Talair base 402a was broken and Richard lent us KAA for an RPT to Girua and Gurney.

He most assuredly had a 185 'cause he ground looped it at POM and I had to do some remedial circuits with him when it was fixed at the behest of DCA. In fact I may be why he bought it in the first place...he asked me one day why I liked them so much and I told him...plus they were LOTS cheaper to buy than an equivalent C206.

[185skywagon]

You wouldn't like to hear about poor old KPA then,

Currently on its fifth life...that's four ground loops in its life, only one due to a a wheel hub failure,,,the rest due to just plain LOC.


ZeeBee,

LOC, is that like The GLOOT syndrome?
Gross Lack Of Operator Technique??

[Pinky the pilot]

Tin and Chuckles; Thanks.:ok: Was not aware of that.

[Tmbstory]

Reference the discussion about an "A" or a "C" in the picture, from my memory I thought the "A" models were all short nosed and the "C" were long nose.

Regards

Tmb

[Chimbu chuckles]

Not quite that simple...pinky and I are not discussing whether the aircraft in the pic is an A or a C but whether Mac Lee had an A or a C. He owned an A and also operated a B at one stage.

Talair had C402s (short nose/round windows/tip tanks) and 402As (long nose/round windows/tip tanks).

C402Bs had long nose/square windows/tip tanks and the 402Cs were essentially, outwardly at least, a B with wet wings.

[troppo]

He had a PA31 as well. Seem to recall all his aircraft had names painted on the nose like goilala goari (something like that...it was a long time ago)

[saabsforever]

troppo,

That would be the P31 between the Winjeel and the 185 then! You can see the names painted on the front of the aircraft.

[tinpis]

FWIW I did a tiki tour of PNG in '76 in brand new PA31
If you had of tried some of the stuff we pulled off in a 402 you would have been dead meat.

[Trojan1981]

Going out in true 'bou style: Yesterday was probably my last oportunity for a 'bou sortie (since I don't do this for a living anymore). But in true 'bou style the aircraft went u/s:(.

Some crews got sorties in later, when they got it going, but I was at home by then.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/2009_0328march200012-1.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/trojan1981/2009_0328march200011-1.jpg

[Peter Fanelli]

Reference the discussion about an "A" or a "C" in the picture, from my memory I thought the "A" models were all short nosed and the "C" were long nose.


The short nose version is the straight C402.
The C402A, C402B and C402C all had the long nose.
Same applies to the 401 and 401A

[compressor stall]

Same applies to the 401 and 401A

I used to fly a 401A with a short nose.... Just to further confuse the issue!

[chimbu warrior]

Only recall there ever being one 402B in PNG, P2-EAA I think, operated by Elomair (remember them?). Don't know what happened to it.

[404 Titan]

Chimbu chuckles

It’s been many years since I saw a photo of P2-ASI. I flew her for Ray back in 97 for about six months. He later sold her and his other PA60 in the late 90’s after the second was restored to flying condition by Hinterland Engineering in Cairns. Someone told me that on the delivery flight to the US ASI was lost in an accident. You wouldn’t happen to know what happened would you?

[Peter Fanelli]

I used to fly a 401A with a short nose.... Just to further confuse the issue!
hmmmm, maybe I'm incorrect for the 401

While hunting around for further info I discovered that back in the 70's American Jet Industries obtained an STC to convert 402B's to Allison 250-B17 power.
I always thought such a conversion would be fun on a 310.

Seems AJI also did the Allison conversions on Barons.
Picture at the bottom of this page.
1973 | 0962 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1973/1973%20-%200962.html)

[Chimbu chuckles]

404 Titan no I didn't know that but it does not surprise me in the least...Ray's two deathstars represent approximately 2% of my TT and about 75% of my airborne mechanical 'problems'.

Was it you with me that day I was test flying his other Aerostar, P2-PHC, ex Cairns and massively fluctuating fuel flow on one engine forced a return - to find after shutdown raw fuel sloshing around the bottom of L/H (or R/H can't remember) engine cowl?

Pretty aeroplane but.....:ugh:

[troppo]

Chimbu,
P2-NCD at NCA was a 402B

[Grogmonster]

I can confirm that the C402A had both short and then long nose. At about serial # 60 they started putting the long nose on them. Will stand corrected on wich serial number it started. In any event it was one of the best Cessna twins I ever flew. Would have been perfect with 350 horses per side but alas it was not to be.

Groggy.

[Dixons Cider]

Yaaaawn :zzz:

[Lasiorhinus]

OK, back to the quiz.

What, when, and why?

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5102/photo0150v.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5711/photo0150.jpg

[Chadzat]

"I bet you can't land on the back of a flatbed truck!?" - gone wrong?

[Jabawocky]

What, when, and why?

Ok one out of three will do me ......"when"..........Lasio thats just after you landed! :}:}:}

[tipsy2]

Lasi, my guess is a Warrior that came to grief on the Mornington Peninsular (Vic). Can't locate the date or remember other details.

[Merlins Magic]

I'll have a guess. I recall sometime back in the 90's (I think) a Piper Lance landing on a road in Melbourne. If I recall correctly, it may have been fuel starvation.

[tipsy2]

I initially though of that one Merlin. The truck, car and truck driver wearing a flouro shirt suggest the photo was taken later than the '90's event.

Also I believe the truck has "Rosebud Towing" painted on the drivers door.:confused:

[Pilotette]

Yeah I think you're right tipsy2..it looks like the warrior that tried to make it to the Sorrento golf course but only got as far as Hotham Rd. It was a birthday flight on the 13th Dec 07..happy birthday huh!

[puff]

Not that I think it's the same incident but the Lance in Melbourne wasn't fuel starvation but a fairly catastrophic engine failure.

[Lasiorhinus]

Well done tipsy2 and Pilotette - it was indeed the Warrior that landed near Sorrento in December 07. This was the aircraft that was reported in the media as having "jettisoned the wings before landing, because the fuel tanks are in the wings".

[vee1-rotate]

my mate was actually PIC on that aircraft, and he is happily still flying, instructing at a large flight school...fantastic effort by him to get the aircraft down in such an area with no serious injuries...congrats MP!:ok:

[notmyC150v2]

And a superb job of jettisoning the wings when he did. Who knows what conflageration was avoided by that masterstroke. :}:}:}

[vee1-rotate]

I can confirm that this was merely a figment of the attending police officer's imagination...he laughed when he first found out what was being reported in the news:}

[kingRB]

continuing the "plane on truck" theme...


http://www.adam.com.au/rb4door/AA/aviation/0240349edit.jpg



anyone?

[chimbu warrior]

Definitely looks trucked to me!

[goin'flyin]

Might have worked better if they tried landing along the truck instead of across it. :}

[The Counter]

Was that not Parafield Adelaide?
About 2003/04?
A mentally handycapped guy stole the CFI's C150 after it being returned from maintenance, got airborne off the taxyway, acrossed two active runways and crashed into a telegraph pole down the road somewhere?? He walked away with a broken shoulder.

[3 Holer]

This one's easy!
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/b727200/NewZealandtrip2090.jpg

[kingRB]

Was that not Parafield Adelaide?
About 2003/04?
A mentally handycapped guy stole the CFI's C150 after it being returned from maintenance, got airborne off the taxyway, acrossed two active runways and crashed into a telegraph pole down the road somewhere?? He walked away with a broken shoulder.


thats the one!

Wasnt just "down the road" though - it was quite few blocks north of the field. Incredible he didnt kill himself or someone else. Went down into the middle of suburbia.

[Bevan666]

Queenstown, through a very long lens!

[DanArcher]

Quote:
Was that not Parafield Adelaide?
About 2003/04?
A mentally handycapped guy stole the CFI's C150 after it being returned from maintenance, got airborne off the taxyway, acrossed two active runways and crashed into a telegraph pole down the road somewhere?? He walked away with a broken shoulder.
thats the one!

Wasnt just "down the road" though - it was quite few blocks north of the field. Incredible he didnt kill himself or someone else. Went down into the middle of suburbia.


That was VH-UGL (ugly...) was owned by the CFI of BAE flight training, stolen by some clown who learnt to fly on flight sim 98 aparently tried to takeoff with full flap in a 150!!! only got as far as Montague rd before hitting a light pole.....

[Tinstaafl]

I used to fly a VH-UGL C150 (or maybe it was a C152?) at Cooly in the early '90s. I suppose it must be the same one. :(

[triadic]

aparently tried to takeoff with full flap in a 150!!!

I recall flying with an VERY experienced Cessna pilot in a 150 many years ago and his short field t/o... was:
Full flap, full power on the brakes and full back stick...let the brakes go and when it broke ground it was a matter of bleeding the flap away as the knots increased..... and yes, it was a very short ground roll, but it stayed near the runway for a bit!!

[morno]

I've seen a Chieftain attempt to take off with full flap one day....

[3 Holer]

Right on both counts Bevan. Photo was taken halfway up the hill on the tourist scenic route between Queenstown and Arrowtown.:ok:

[RadioSaigon]

Crown Range road, above the Crown Terrace, probably still on the hairpins... if you'd gone just a little further you would have got the same shot from directly on the NZQN centreline!

And that tourist route would be between NZQN and NZWF... well past the Arrowtown turn-off

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

I've seen a Chieftain attempt to take off with full flap one day....

Trust me! A full flap take off in a C402B is no big deal (as long as both fans keep turning), but man does that sucker get off the ground in a hurry!

Dr :O

[tio540]

Welcome back Forky. Tell us more, how did that happen? Did you forget to retract them?

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Did you forget to retract them?

Moi?

Dr :E

[the wizard of auz]

the three ten is the same...... except it wants to jump into the air tail first. :uhoh:

[Peter Fanelli]

I've seen a Chieftain attempt to take off with full flap one day....
Was it successful?

Was it Birdsville?

Was it me?

[Tmbstory]

Bevan 666:

The long lens makes it look short (and it was minimum landing length) in the Falcon 20 and Falcon 10.

Spectacular scenery and a beautiful spot to visit.

Tmb

[morno]

Was it successful?

Was it Birdsville?

Was it me?

Negative Peter, wasn't you.

It was successful, but it had the potential to be very bad had a pilot sitting at the holding point watching, not pointed this out to the pilot in question over the radio when it became obvious he had no idea why he was barely climbing and almost continuing back down towards the runway after the gear retraction! :ugh:

It was at a rather large and well known town approx 800km's North of Birdsville.

morno

[Peter Fanelli]

Well I can tell you from experience, a Chieftain will get out of Birdsville off the dirt runway with full flap. It won't accelerate much once airborne and it won't climb much until you bleed the flaps up...carefully, but it will do it.

Amazing what last minute distractions can do to you. I'm actually surprised that no-one commented at the time given there was a long line of us leaving after the races.

:mad:

[Grogmonster]

So Peter F was that you that took off the other day with the Props still at cruise setting cause that was really spectacular. You must be a great pilot getting these aircraft to perform under extreme conditions????

[Bevan666]

I flew a bonzana over from aus to NZ and back in 2005 and ended up in queenstown for a few days. Magical flying around there! :ok::ok::ok:

http://www.bja.com.au/ext/DSC_4909.jpg

http://www.bja.com.au/ext/DSC_4924.jpg

[Chimbu chuckles]

Bevan that is something I pondered doing with mine when the restoration is complete. Sarge was pondering doing the same in reverse in his 185 but then it occurred to us we could just leave our respective aeroplanes where they are and fly each others aircraft when the mood takes. A C185 being the perfect NZ aircraft and the Bonanza being the perfect Aus aircraft.

Would be a fun trip though...care to give us the full run down on your trip?

[Bevan666]

Here are the notes I made at the time. More pikkies at New Zealand March 2005 (http://www.bja.com.au//rba/Photos/Flying%20Trips/NZ2005)

24/02/2005 - Departed Moorabbin to Port Macquarie at 4pm. Arrived just after dark and refuelled, ready for tomorrows trip...

25/02/2005 - A beautiful day for flying. Light winds and scattered clouds are forecast all the way to Norfolk. Hopefully the weather will continue on to New Zealand. Had 10 knots of headwinds all the way to Norfolk. A few bumps in the circuit at Lord Howe but no other turbulence to speak of. Lord Howe is beatiful. Glad we are staying two days on the return leg.

26/02/2005 - Another lovely day. We were airborne at 9am for the 3.5 hour leg to Whangarie. The aero club were out to meet us on arrival (along with the friendly customs and MAF staff). Customs searched the plane quite thoroughly after going through Rochelle's passport (and seeing stamps for Jordan, Iraq, Zimbabwe, Liberia etc). Had a lovely flight down the coast to Ardmore (NZ's busiest aerodrome) which is just south of Auckland.

2/03/2005 - Flew Rochelle and Bill around Auckland. Saw where 'The Piano' was filmed.

3/03/2005 - Flew down from Ardmore to Hamilton to visit CTC aviation. Lovely VFR flying weather.

4/03/2005 - Arrived in Masterton via Wanganiu. Filed and flew IFR from Ardmore, due to low cloud and drizzle around Auckland. Cruised down the coast over broken cloud. Wanganiu weather was broken at 4000 ft when we arrived. Windy in Wanganui, but had smooth flying over the Tararua's to Masterton.

5/03/2005 - Staying in a small cottage in Martinborough. Lots of people in the small town for the annual country market.

6/03/2005 - Took Rochelle's Grandmother to see the plane at Masterton Aerodrome and saw Peter Jackson out with his antique WW1 fighter planes out flying. Had our own little airshow!

7/03/2005 - Lots of wind overnight. I must have tied the plane down well as it was still where I left it come Monday morning! phew. Weather will improve tomorrow so we will head down to Christchurch.

8/03/2005 - Arrived at Jackie and James' in Christchurch. Very windy today and there were many bumps flying down from Masterton. Winds were very strong over the Cook Strait, and encountered some interesting mountain waves. Smooth flying, but only could maintain altitude at full power and best rate of climb speed.

10/03/2005 - We are currently in Christchurch. Leave for Wanaka and Queenstown tomorrow. Good weather is predicted so we should get some great views of the mountains.

11/03/2005 - Had a lovely flight over the mountains down to Wanaka and Queenstown on Friday. Had smooth clear conditions, and flew past Mt Cook.

12/03/2005 - Flew around to Milford but was covered in cloud. Flew over the site of my rescue in '99. Flew to Dunedin for lunch and after struggles getting fuel, was back in Queenstown at 6pm.

13/03/2005 - Stayed on the ground! Spent the day driving around Arrowtown, Glenorchy and Queenstown.

14/03/2005 - Another lovely day. Flew from Queenstown to Milford (beat most of the tourist flights out there) and then tracked coastal to Nelson on the north of the South Island. After stopping for fuel and lunch we headed over the Cook Strait to head up the west coast of the North Island back to Ardmore. Need to schedule an oil change for tomorrow then to Lord Howe on Wednesday.

15/03/2005 - Oil change completed this morning by Aero-Tech at Ardmore. Took the plane for a test flight over Auckland on another lovely sunny day.

16/03/2005 - Lovely flying day again. Flew from Auckland up to Whangarei (7:30am departure) at 1500ft coastal. Lovely smooth flying conditions. Customs fellows were there to meet us and we were airborne for Norfolk at 9am. Saw some fishing boats north of Cape Rianga and then nothing until Norfolk Island. We had a about an hour on the ground there (inclusing a nice sandwich from across the road from the terminal) and was soon airborne for Lord Howe. Again nothing was sighted until we reached the island. Senior Sargeant Buckley did your customs and quarrantine clearance and we were soon at the place we were staying. We have bikes!

17/03/2005 - Spent the day cycling and swimming and sleeping and eating on Lord Howe Island.

18/03/2005 - Nice weather at Lord Howe and Melbourne. Shame what was in the middle. A large trough coming down from a tropical cyclone up north spewed a lot of very bumpy wet clouds in our way. We spent 2 hours in cloud off the coast of australia, and then popped in the clear near Sydney. We landed at Wollongong for fuel and lunch (food in the terminal - yay!) and then neaded off on the last leg to Melbourne. We were on top of solid cloud at 10000ft. Did not see much of the Australian alps at all (we flew past mount cook on Monday). A VFR arrival into Moorabbin and we were home again...

[Peter Fanelli]

So Peter F was that you that took off the other day with the Props still at cruise setting cause that was really spectacular. You must be a great pilot getting these aircraft to perform under extreme conditions????


Nope, It's been 10 years since I last flew.

[Desert Flower]

So Peter F was that you that took off the other day with the Props still at cruise setting cause that was really spectacular.

Ever seen a Bo try to take off with the prop still at cruise setting? One point five kms of runway still wasn't long enough!

DF.

[Fark'n'ell]

Tinny

A venison pilot in the 60s was told he couldnt use a hollowed log bathtub on a strip cos he stank too feckin' much

C'mon Tinny, back in those days venison was a very expensive smell.Got even more expensive when we started live capture.:ok:

[Cravenmorehead]

I find this thread just sooooo refreshing. Whenever I tire of the sniping and bitching in the other Downunder threads I come to this one and have my faith in Pilots who obviously love to fly restored, it's just bloody good stuff.
Who was it said enjoy the journey that Aviation gives you and make sure you take plenty of photos (perhaps it was me). I have a few lasting photographic memories but not enough after 20 odd years of flying, they have tended to be get scattered all over the house in various storage places. I will be buying a decent digital camera soon and make sure I take plenty more and use the old Pewter as a photo albumn. I guess I will have to learn to drive the camera first (I am still trying to master my I-Pod). Yes you guessed it I am not of the generation Y ilk. But I can work an FMS sort of.

[Jabawocky]

Get snapping! :ok:

A bit grounded at the moment but in a month or two i will be back in business!!

[Cloud Basher]

Anyone gets this one they are doing bloody well! (No nothing to do with Australia other than the PIC is an Aussie!:})

A small hint, it is on the way to New Orleans

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Flying%20in%20USA/P4031294.jpg

[tipsy2]

NAS Pensacola

[Cloud Basher]

Damn Tipsy! Guess in hindsite it is fairly distinctive!

How about this one then?

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Flying%20in%20USA/P2231229.jpg

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/dwarburton/04112008.jpg

That may well be the remains of KFT! It was not quite as bent as I remember.

http://www.fototime.com/0A8B244EE120823/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/B1F9DF2846E2031/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/C119E46D0A87ADE/standard.jpg

Dr :8

PS: Apolgies for the quality of the pics - they were scanned off 35mm slides

[Jabawocky]

Well here she is! The last of the B747-400 family! No 1419.

Hot off the press this weekend!

http://file046b.bebo.com/13/large/2009/04/12/10/4525920200a10577763010l.jpg

http://file046b.bebo.com/13/large/2009/04/12/10/4525920200a10577763047l.jpg

J:ok:

[Lasiorhinus]

Its still green. It needs more time before it ripens.

[Peter Fanelli]

It'll ripen fairly quickly when it gets out in the sunshine.

[Chimbu chuckles]

Well I have been having a little fun the last few days..

Did the hunter/gatherer thing and caught dinner

http://www.fototime.com/{CD274D19-FEEA-42DF-A73A-985657205ECE}/picture.JPG

Played in this...its so nice having mates with good toys.

http://www.fototime.com/{E2470AC2-C93C-40A2-AB33-A9F26C246EBE}/picture.JPG

and this

http://www.fototime.com/{DDDDF55E-9248-40F3-9D71-2A2B1EB4BA63}/picture.JPG

So where have I been playing?

[Jabawocky]

And what about the Mozzie Control Spraying ......must be able to screen shot that!:ok:

[NZFlyingKiwi]

The Cessna 190 is a beautiful looking aircraft.

[Joker 10]

Looks like Bussleton to me

[toolowtoofast]

dunno but that cray in your left hand looks undersize.....

[Chimbu chuckles]

It wasn't you know.:ok:

We actually caught 10 but most were female and 1 undersize...only those two made the ultimate culinary sacrifice.

NZflyingkiwi she is actually a 1952 model Cessna 195 with a 7 cylinder Jacobs R915 developing 330hp on takeoff at about 26in mp/2200rpm...and flys as she looks.:ok:

9jbipLnTBR0

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

...and flys as she looks.http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


Pure arse! :E

Dr :8

PS: There's a C170 in the hangar beside the FTDK, Chuckles! Come visit and you may be able to collect the full set!

[Chimbu chuckles]

Wouldn't the full set have to include the 120, 140 and O1?

Ahh...so many aeroplanes and only one life.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

True!

..... add another "notch"!

[NZFlyingKiwi]

Ah, a 195, I stand corrected then! Great video, thanks for posting it here. :)

[Chimbu chuckles]

No need to stand corrected...they are identical in all respects except engine hp.:ok:

[tinpis]

Dont forget the C-165


http://www.russellw.com/photoalbum/liberal_8_2000/C-165%20N32450%20rfq.jpg

[Chimbu chuckles]

Tin do you know why they started back at low numbers again after the 195... C120, C140, C170, C180, C185 all being later designs?

I don't understand what you found to dislike about the 195...great fun aeroplane.

Very nice to sit in. LOTS more elbow room...much better ergonomics than the 180/185. Easier to taxi, poor fwd vis notwithstanding, and easier to fly than either the 180 or 185. Mind you JTM has 330hp as opposed to most which have either 245hp or 275hp.

Climbs at 1200'/min and cruises at 140-145kts. For an ethusiast (someone who doesn't mind wiping off oil that the engine decided was surplus to requirements) a C195 might just be the perfect private aircraft.

[Joker 10]

Round engines must both use oil and leak oil, part of their design heritage, born in an era when the use of fossil based lubricants was not a drama.

For big round engines specific oil consumption figures are given for all power settings, if they are not using oil then you really worry.

[tinpis]

Chimbu
So long ago but it may have been a couple of factors
1. Hang over
2.Noise (See 1)
3. Bankstown circuit area with the said viz(And see 1)

Did like the crank down window, did yours have that?
And the hoist from the floor pole was good
Not as nice an old girl as Beaver tho.

[Chimbu chuckles]

Yeah...we were both rather taken with the wind down glass window...as was everyone that wondered in for a look:ok:

The ONLY negative the aeroplane has got imo is between 12 and 2 the world is a mystery when taxiing. Unlike a Stearman etc you cant just S turn your way down the taxiway...a little wiggle right and you can see past the cowl down the taxiway but the only wiggle left that will let you see out that side is a 90 degree wiggle. Someone you trust in the front right seat makes this a non issue...there is a convex mirror mod that helps in this respect. Both of us consistently overshot right hand turns on taxiways because it is just completely blind.

But that is it...and I reckon with time in type you would learn to work around that one negative. I used to ponder one day selling the Bo and buying another 185....now the only reason I would even consider selling my Bo (and I still love it deeply) would be to buy a C195.:ok:

The flaps (looked straight off a Spitfire and work the same way - either up or down) were charmingly useless (absolutely no lift and the dinner plate size landing lights that fold down about half way out each wing produce as much drag):D

Wonderfully large/wide cabin - you actually climb between the front seats to gain access to the cockpit.

The Elevator/Rudder and Aileron trims all fall easily to hand on the Y yoke and the flap switch (one of the silver piano keys right of the throttle) mean you can sit a comfortable distance from the widely spaced rudder peddles, unlike the 180/185 where you end up sitting too close to the peddles or you can't reach the flap handle/trims on the floor.

Built strong too...build quality is like a Beechcraft :D...utterly unlike later Cessnas:ugh:

http://www.fototime.com/{A5809C57-3F6F-43F2-BCB1-515CFC48F0DA}/picture.JPG

An altogether excellent aeroplane...and to think it was designed in the late 40s...Cessna actually went backwards after the 195;)

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Geez Chuck, admit it! You luv ............ the last aeroplane you stepped out of!

Dr :8

PS: With a couple of exceptions! :E

[Chimbu chuckles]

I am the first to admit I am an unreconstructed aeroplane slut...but if something is a heap of ****e its a heap of ****e...I don't love the last aeroplane I got out of...always:}

[RadioSaigon]

Damn, that's a gorgeous wee beastie CC -I gotta start hanging out in your sorta circles!!! :ok:

PS: Did you get any external vid of her doing what she does best??? Would be beaut to see/hear her in action!

[Chimbu chuckles]

There was no time to organise any formation work unfortunately...stayed tuned though, it will happen:ok:

Closest I can give you is this which is an editing together from the second test flight and the third flight where Tim took members of his family for a quick lash. Then I hopped back in for 3 circuits in the LHS before jumping a jet home 2 hours later. Unavoidable delays getting her airworthy and on the register meant things were a lot more compressed than we would have liked.

jBQC671OUGs

He has sent links to the above vids to the ex owner, a 777 Captain in Texas, who is suffering sellers remorse as we speak...hardly surprising really:}

Cant wait to get back to Perth for more.;)

[tinpis]

The one I flew was sold by Rex for around $7500 with new Cof a as I recall :{
The David Clarkes would have been handy, I dont remember seeing them in the early 70's?

[Bri85]

great planes

[SawThe Light]

I recall reading a pilots report on the 195 a few years back and a couple of his statements stayed with me.

On the subject of visibility he said something like "being able to see out of the front of an airplane is a relatively recent idea" and that the "mighty Jacobs blotted out half of the sky and roared defiance at the rest of it."

His impression of mounting the steed was just as expressive as he said, "Getting in and out required the agility of a burglar entering thru a skylight."

What a delight to fly though.

[Chimbu chuckles]

Love it..."mighty Jacobs blotted out half of the sky and roared defiance at the rest of it.":}

[tinpis]

Getting in and out required the agility of a burglar entering thru a skylight."


Describes you Chuck? :hmm:

[Chimbu chuckles]

No...sounds like the quoted scribe was a real fat c^%t...mind you I am 10kgs lighter than a year ago...might have agreed with him then:ouch:

Interestingly the ignition system has a 'start' position which is a set of points rather than a magneto. To start the Jacobs ensure pitch control is full coarse/low rpm (you put it there before shutdown) throttle nearly closed, mixture idle cut off, pull the prop through 7 compressions to check for hydraulic lock, 3 primes (the primer has an enormous stroke and bore - you feel like handing it to the rear seat pax;) ), engage starter, count 7 blades, select 'start' and as she fires up mixture to 'rich' should give you an idle of about 700 rpm. After the oil pressure comes off the stop propeller to fine pitch.

Takeoff power is 330hp at 26in/2200rpm and climb power is 21.5in/2000rpm.

Spares are a non issue...the Jacobs R915 was built for the military and as a result they built 1000s of em. The engine in this aircraft has 300TT and was built up from new old stock and the aircraft came with a complete spare zero time engine fully inhibited...as well as a stack of other spare bits.

Some 190/195s are fitted with a 'crosswind undercarriage' where the wheels can swivel to line up with the runway while the airframe doesn't. Tim was offered a set in the deal but declined and both of us agreed that the aircraft doesn't need them...there was a crosswind when we were flying it and direction control is very good. In fact the prospect of that sort of system frightened us both with the potential control problems a malfunctioning/out of rig system might cause.

All the 195 demands is good technique and in that regard it really is less demanding than the 180/185....having said that ground loops are the largest % by far of accident causes...I bet that wasn't the case 50 years ago when virtually EVERYONE learned in taildraggers.

If you didn't have significant Cessna TW time you'd probably need some serious dual though. Both Tim and I logged lots of 185 time in our misspent youths and while I am current in them Tim wasn't...an hour or so of circuits in a mates C180 fixed that:ok:

[Kerosine]

Hi all, first time posting in the D&G forum. Loving the thread so thought I would contribute with a couple of randomers from NZ..

View over Raglan, North Island
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2682/23/66/551210515/n551210515_2781867_2594850.jpg

Early morning radiation fog over Hamilton Aerodrome
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs017.snc1/2638_78961925515_551210515_2817401_5886476_n.jpg

[NZFlyingKiwi]

Is that an ag airstrip just above and to the right of the winglet in the first picture I wonder?

[tinpis]

Most likely the Mori Ori Farkawe ancesterol electric puha patch in that neck of the woods

[haughtney1]

I'm just waiting tinnie for you to roll out the black power piccie :}

[tinpis]

Never, never, ignore your adoring public....

Electric Puha growers and sellers kick back after a big day, outside the Kawhia Hotel
Part of a Day in The Life of a Kiwi

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/tinpis/mongrels.jpg

[haughtney1]

Perhaps we could do a "where are they now" thread for that piccie...:}

[tinpis]

Haughtney mate, as long as they don't know where I am......:uhoh:

[Pinky the pilot]

The car in that piccy appears to possibly be a GT Falcon Tinpis!:eek:
(Or a lookalike. ie a fake!)
Where did they get that from?:confused:

[Peter Fanelli]

Wouldn't the full set have to include the 120, 140 and O1?


A full set of Cessna arse draggers would have to include the C188 as well wouldn't it?
Or is that one excluded.

[tinpis]

Pinky,it would be a bog standard XW three on the tree tricked up with racing hubcaps, chrome dipsticks and a high compression sump plug
It would on the borrow from cuzzy Howie while hes up in Mt Eden at his aunties.

[Pinky the pilot]

Tinny; :ok::ok:
while hes up in Mt Eden at his aunties.

Or enjoying a taxpayer funded 'holiday?':hmm:

[Chimbu chuckles]

PF you're absolutely correct...hadn't thought of the Ag ar$e draggers:ok:

So anybody got a C188 they want to loan me for 30 minutes or so?:E

Re the Cuzzy Bros 'where are they now'.

Left to Right..

Serving time for Puha smuggling/racketeering/drink driving/resisting arrest.

Became a born again Christian - now living in witness protection with his wife and 12 children after becoming a police informant and turning state's evidence in a Puha smuggling/racketeering case.

After a role as an extra in 'Once We Were Warriors' but now we are just kanaks he went on to study Shakespeare and acting. Career highlight was understudy for the part of Yorick in Hamlet. He has also applied for the role of the Moor in Othello 487 times (that'll get you lot thinking)

Made a small fortune as a land developer (Waitangi Developements PTY LTD) and now restores old Falcons as a hobby in retirement
:E:}:ok:
.

[chimbu warrior]

what do you call a brudda wiff a Rolls Royce?............thief

What do you call a brudda wiff a new suit?...............the defendant:ok:

[tinpis]

I urge you all to get this DVD from your store
You will piss yerself laughing.

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[sugden]

Kerosine

Cracking pics (especially with the diversion into bruvva comedy territory they have inspired). Post more please!

[Jabawocky]

Hey Tin........that was the out takes from Chimbu Chucks Flying Holiday Video's, where did you find them!

J:E

[tinpis]

Hew hew hew...awsome brudda, some of chucks kiwi mates (relax :rolleyes:) in their hot pool,

Northland places - Ng?wh? hot springs - Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand (http://www.teara.govt.nz/Places/Northland/NorthlandPlaces/10/ENZ-Resources/Standard/4/en)

[tinpis]

Better post a hairyplane photo to atone I guess :\

This is Aetearoa anyone guess where ?
Used to be a great place to be, until the luvvy fairies and wouldnt-work-in-an-iron lung lefty fluffists, finally shagged it completely

http://www.aerohub.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/beaver-cockpit1.jpg

[Kerosine]

Kerosine

Cracking pics (especially with the diversion into bruvva comedy territory they have inspired). Post more please! While you're mulling over Tinpis' challenge, here's a couple more if anyone else is interested!

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2682/23/66/551210515/n551210515_2781868_2838106.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2682/23/66/551210515/n551210515_2781870_4874829.jpg

I'm afraid most of my pics taken from/in DA-42s around Hamilton (no points for guessing my training provider!). For those who prefer a bit of old school, not many of these around I believe...

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2682/23/66/551210515/n551210515_2686602_4218731.jpg

[toolowtoofast]

First one is GH over the Tasman off Kawhia harbour - Mt Karioi in the distance. 2nd on short finals to 18 NZHN. 3rd pretty simple :)

[KRUSTY 34]

Nice Beaver tinpis!

But could the car in your first picture be a GTO Pontiac or something similar, judgeing by the bonnet scoop in the middle?

[tinpis]

Nah, mate bog standard XW or Y
In the 70/80s there would have been a handful only of the genuine article in kiwi
These dropkicks wouldnt have been drivng one of them

[aldee]

Not being aquainted with the beaver (not that type anyway:ooh:) can you tell me what the tacho is saying, 0 rpm, 1000 rpm?

[tinpis]

Um..at a guess 28"/1990-ish rpm?
Normal put-put was 28"/1800

Later instrument placement

http://www.kiwibeavers.com/images/CMU_1996_Cockpit.jpg

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

That Beaver looks like its approaching 'Lil NZ' aka North Bondi.......:eek:

Perhaps about to return to Rose Bay??

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Not being aquainted with the beaver (not that type anywayhttp://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/icon25.gif) can you tell me what the tacho is saying, 0 rpm, 1000 rpm?

Truth be known, the tacho is flucked! However, Tinnie always flew by ear alone and never looked at the tacho.

Dr :8

[aldee]

Thanks Dr., twas my first thought as well

[tinpis]

Especially four engines DR.
Oh it does look like Maoriland Sinny, dont it?

[Joker 10]

Why are the knobs on the Throttle and propellor reversed, are all DH like this serrated knob on throttle Round knob on pitch control.

[Chimbu chuckles]

Throttle in the middle on a Beaver...or do you really think Beechcraft just unilaterally decided to do it that way with no precedent?

[Joker 10]

No the throttle in the middle is OK same on Daks, but the Throttle has the pitch knob and Pitch the throttle knob , make it hard if just operating by feel in a higher than normal pressure situation !! maybe only Kiwi's do this backwards.

[Mark1234]

Possibly a stuffup :) (LAME or otherwise - ref windows thread...) You'll note that in the original beaver pic (!) on the previous page, the throttle has a throttle knob, and the pitch a pitch knob.

[ciscodiscocisco]

?is that eric from scone aircraft maintenance in the pic? or is this at scone?? nev's place

[Horatio Leafblower]

Yeah man... don't you recognise the Tat ... and the big head? :}

Not sure if he's on his way home from his walk or from Mardi Gras rehersal :E

[Peter Fanelli]

maybe only Kiwi's do this backwards.



Or should that be only kiwis do it from behind :E

[tinpis]

Nutha one?

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/6/9/4/1367496.jpg

[Peter Fanelli]

I see that one has the throttle to the left. :confused:

[notmyC150v2]

The GPS unit just looks wrong on that panel. Ruins it.

I know they are useful and helpful and if you are the mad doctor, downright essential. But here it just ruins the whole look.

[Hempy]

Peter, on closer inspection the whole panel is different. G-CMGD looks like it's had a refit somewhere along the line

[Joker 10]

But the knobs are on the right controls, maybe only the Kiwi's do it backwards

[tinpis]

Dunt matter, most kiwis that fly Beavers can't read anyway.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

The GPS unit just looks wrong on that panel

Specially as they nicked some bits from a kid's Mecano set to make the mount for the 296!

[VH-XXX]

The 296 is the best instrument on that panel.

1 throttle, 1 set of pedals!

[Peter Fanelli]

Spoken like a true member of the Y generation.

I guess you'd be much more at home in something with a cockpit that looks like a Lexus, Cirrus perhaps.

[HardCorePawn]

You might want to try reading this: http://www.pprune.org/d-g-general-aviation-questions/358738-image-posting-pprune.html

As without a 50" widescreen monitor, it is hard to appreciate the beauty... I can only see about 2 gauges on screen at a time :rolleyes:

[kingRB]

lol

come now hardcore, get a bigger monitor. I can at least see 3!

[Mark1234]

3 1/2, and a pink scrunchie thing. In a beaver. Hmm....

[gassed budgie]

Classic photos from a different era.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8601/lifepic6800.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7125/lifepic4800.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8302/lifepic10800.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3373/lifepic9800.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3117/lifepic5800.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2871/lifepic7800r.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2305/lifepic8800.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6730/lifepic2800.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6573/lifepic68002l.jpg

My favourite....pilot leaning forward with anticipation....gunner riding along in back slumped against the ammo drums, couldn't give a rats arse....not real hard to figure out where.

[tinpis]

.not real hard to figure out where.

The Bermuda Triangle? :ooh:

[Arnold E]

1st and 9th photo Gill flaps open, anybody offer a reason why?

[Joker 10]

Big radials down low require significant airflow to keep CYL head temp and Oil temp under control, they are flying in tropical kit down low canopies open my bet is they have the cowl flaps open to keep the whole thing cool. CHT 150 Celsius and Oil 70 Celcius are the good numbers.

[Arnold E]

Yeah thanks Joker, looks like on photo 7&8 there appears to be one, the lower one, that has gill flaps open and others that has them closed. Maybe just my piss poor eyesight. Wadda ya reckon?

[tinpis]

Ahhh.. yes Chuck the 188 Agwagon.
Supposedly a bit sluggish with loader-driver sitting on leading edge hanging onto spar.:hmm:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/108638807_a429d6aeab.jpg?v=0

[gwydir]

Have been told it also makes a poor meatbomber with pax loaded one on each wing as you describe.Apparently a test flight took place but the idea never really took off.

[Joker 10]

Arnold depends on the power setting, big radials heat up quickly at high power settings, lots of thermal energy to dissipate. Also Gill flaps also control the oil cooler outlet, so if Cyl Temp OK but oil creeping up you need to open the "doors".

They are very draggy open so no one really wants to have them open any more than necessary.

[tinpis]

Set gills to "Auto" :rolleyes:

[tinpis]

The mouth of the Waikikamoocau River?

[Joker 10]

No auto on gills, only P 51 has auto on cooling, air cooled radials need pilots with nouse.

[tinpis]

Is ZK-BUI still alive ? :uhoh:

[Got the horn]

Wow! Awesome photos! Got to get me a 180/185 rating. Anyone?:ok:

[compressor stall]

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu353/stallie001/aviation/Picture1.jpg

I believe this is first photo of this - more than 40 years after it sank where it was parked. And it's only visible for about 4 weeks a year....

Any guesses for the type?

[Weheka]

Single Otter??

[compressor stall]

Not an otter - and it is (was) not on floats either.... :p

[Chimbu chuckles]

One the the Beavers that operated in Antarctica on skis in the 1950s?

[Weheka]

OK....what about an AN2??

[tinpis]

UC-1 / U-1B Otter

[compressor stall]

Yep, well done. An AN2. As much as I have been able to find out - it was parked on the seaice next to a non-Australian Antarctic research station back in the late 60's. I am still trying to find out more info, but it was parked when it fell through the ice, sinking to the bottom.

I'd heard rumours about its existence, I caught a glimpse 2 years ago and I finally jagged the above photo last summer.

The ice (visible on the left of shot) retreats enough around mid January and reforms again in mid-late February.

[Jabawocky]

I'll be buggered.......... mand made CO2 caused Global Warming back then too! :ooh:

[Cloud Basher]

A few from Sun n Fun. Having a ball here in the States, been all over South East US. Anyway Sun n Fun wasn't huge this year, a lot of aircraft missing, blamed on the economy, however was still the biggest airshow and more aircraft that I have ever seen in one place. I will make it to Oshkosh one day...

Enjoy
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/003KLALturningbase27R.jpg
Turning Close base for 27R

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/011CustomPitts12.jpg
Awesome Custom Pitts model 12 (440+HP on the dyno - engine worked by Monte Barret.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/020Skyraider.jpg
My favourite Warbird - first time I had seen one in the flesh, they are Huuuuge!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/027Wilcats.jpg
Couple of Wildcats

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/035Skyraider.jpg
More Skyraider goodness

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/038B17.jpg
CAF's Faux B24 (edited to reflect it being a B24, not B17)

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/047Pittspair.jpg
Pitts pair

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/051MX2.jpg
Greg Poe in his Ethanol powered MX2

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/052AerobaticBonanza.jpg
Aerobatic Bo

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/058SeanTucker.jpg
Sean Tucker 10ft off the deck doing his triple ribbon cut (after first flying under, over and under them:D

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/055PattyWagstaff.jpg
Patty Wagstaff

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/069SloairS342.jpg
Sloair S342

[Cloud Basher]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/082P-51CrazyHorse.jpg
Stallion 51 was there with Crazy Horse 2 and was part of the USAF heritage Flight. I didn't take any photos of this one as I went to the Tyndal AFB airshow a month ago and saw the USAF heritage flight with a P-51, Mustang, F4 and F22. Now that was awesome. The one at Sun n Fun was "only" and F-16 and P-51.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/095nightaerobatics.jpg
Night airshow piccies. this was a three ship "Aerostars"Yak 52 team.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/120Nightaeros120.jpg
Night airshow - four ship Aeroshell Texan team

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/124BeechStaggerwing.jpg
Sexiest Civilian aircraft ever built (IMNSHO)

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/128C196.jpg
One for Chumbu Chuckles - You now need to add a C-196 to the list of Cessna Tail draggers you need to fly!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/132Stearmanreflections.jpg
Runway reflections in a Stearmans nose

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/139V-TailBonanza.jpg
One for Dr Forkie

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Sun%20n%20Fun/152MX2.jpg
Another MX2 - yes I do indeed love them!

Hope you enjoyed.

Cheers
CB

[Clearedtoreenter]

Great photos Basher. Thanks for sharing!

[Dog One]

Great photos - but the B-17 is actually a B-24 Liberator

[Much Ado]

C195 with an R985...aerobating Bonanza...When CC and FTDKer see those I think it wont only be the V35 getting a polish...hmmmm.:}

[VH-XXX]

The tail is the giveaway.

This is a B24.

http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/b24aerial.jpg

This is a B17:

http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/b17.jpg


This must be a B17 I guess - took it at Nellis AF base Nevada.

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1/90.jpg

[Cloud Basher]

Sorry, I know it was a B24 not B17!!!!!! Idiot. Too many Bundy's whilst editing photos. Yes I managed to get a bottle of Bundy over here for ANZAC day! Myself a NZer, two Canadians, two Yanks and a Belgian celebrated in the best tradition with a gunfire breakfast! Now that is the way to start a Sun n Fun day!

Actually the B24 is not actually a B24. It is one of the first models pre B24(can't remember the actual designation). Doesn't have bomb bay doors, and you may notice the engines are different, but perhaps is even more historical than a genuine B24 as it is one of the first aircraft off the assembly line that proved the concept. However it does look and sound awesome! No idea why I labelled it B17... Apologies to all.

I took around 2000 photos over the three days I was there and still going through them all.

Cheers
CB

[tinpis]

Bit of C185 fun in Brazil
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[drunkensailor]

Fantastic photo's Cloud Basher,
out of interest, what camera are you using there?

[Cloud Basher]

drunkensailor,
it is a second hand EOS 30D with a Canon IS 70 - 300 lens. Quality isn't that great and I got the camera dirty at a previous airshow and I need to get the body cleaned. Will pay a professional to do that as I don't want to wreck the image thingy...

you want to see some nice photos go to www.warbirdz.net (http://www.warbirdz.net). Glenn Alderton is the owner / phototgrapher extrordinaire. He has had lots of photos published in local mags and some overseas. I have got some tips off him on taking photos but I simply don't take enough or practice enough to take good ones. Doesn't really worry me as I just use them as screen savers on the computer and it is good to know that I actually took them, even if they aren't as sharp or well composed as the pro's.

Here are a couple from Tyndall AFB airshow a month or so ago.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Tyndal%20AFB%20airshow%202009/F22011.jpg
F22 - yes the display it puts on is as awesome as everyone says it is!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Tyndal%20AFB%20airshow%202009/F22013.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Tyndal%20AFB%20airshow%202009/F22022.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Tyndal%20AFB%20airshow%202009/F4008.jpg
An my favourite Jet fighter. Nothing looks as tough as an F-4, again in my not-so-humble opinion. I feel very lucky ot have seen one up close and personal and flying. The QF-4's are about to start being replaced by QF-16's or so I was told. So they won't be flying for very much longer...:(

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Tyndal%20AFB%20airshow%202009/HeritageFlight004.jpg
One of the most awesome sights I have seen at an airshow. The yanks certainly know how to turn it on...

Cheers
CB

[Peter Fanelli]

Does anyone other than the FTDK know what the circular devices are behind the left wing root of the FTDK?

[Desert Flower]

Does anyone other than the FTDK know what the circular devices are behind the left wing root of the FTDK?

Air vents or static vents? But then I am thinking "why so many?"

DF.

[Joker 10]

3 inch rocket tubes

[prospector]

Tinpis,
Those downhill landings at the end of that clip would certainly need a delicate touch, I would have liked more wind than was showing on the sock for that carryon!!.

[chimbu warrior]

.............and some of those lumps of timber adjacent to the strip look pretty solid too.

[PyroTek]

Does anyone other than the FTDK know what the circular devices are behind the left wing root of the FTDK? Stubby tubes, they are 3 stubbies deep, so you can take 18 stubbies on a trip. They are put on the side to expose the cans to the low OAT in flight. They don't fit XXXX Beer though, only the best brands. :E

Also are there for easy access as you leave the aircraft, or as you are in your 'directors chair' sitting next to the trailing edge of the wing.

:ok:Pyro

[Peter Fanelli]

Joker 10 is closest, they are in fact flare dispensers. Only other time I've seen them was in a magazine article about a restored Doctor Killer which also had them installed. Apparently it was a factory option way back then. Unable to find an on line reference.

[yowieII]

Damn I was going to say chaff dispenser.....

[tinpis]

prospector, yes , you can see hes got the good sense to plunk it into the dirt and not float over it. Good little film for C-185 "Aces"
What did you think of the Seneca going in there? :eek: I guess its only a Cherokee six after all...

[prospector]

Yes, certainly placed on the ground with precision. What do you think the second aircraft in was? barn door flaps and a near perfect three pointer, a Helios Courier comes to mind but many years since Ive sighted one of them.

Change subject slightly, saw your Astro Hog on another thread, just finished refurbishing my Astro Hog and re engined it with an ASP61, goes like a rocket now.

[Chimbu chuckles]

Second aircraft was indeed a Helio Courier...fun aeroplane to fly:ok:

Some of the aircraft being used in that vid gave me the shudders...the Cherokee for one...seemed like a 'big day out at the aeroclub' vid.:uhoh:

[bushy]

Those blokes are all nuts. But their skill levels would not usually be found at the average aero club.
Very skilful and nutty flying.
Cessnas can taxi through gates and Pipers can't. Otherewise Pipers can do what Cessna's can do.

[Chimbu chuckles]

Well I saw some skillful flying by the pilots of the Helio and C185...the rest I would've said was a mixed bag.

Most of the pilots in that vid had bigger balls than the average Australian Aeroclub pilot but few were professional 'bush pilots'. Flying like some of those guys flew, in PNG, would get you put on a plane south.

[ZEEBEE]

Cessnas can taxi through gates and Pipers can't. Otherewise Pipers can do what Cessna's can do.

Bushy

If you're talking about the Cherokee 6 vs C206/7 ...then yes I agree, but looking at the beating the nose gears were getting, I think the 185 or better still, a Beaver would be my weapon of choice.

[bushy]

Tailwheels are better in the bush. Although the tailwheels on ag pawnees used to shear the tailwheel bolts every 40 odd hours. They were changed at about every 30 hours.

[Jabawocky]

New toys for our Army lads?

Anyone able to tell a story about these and what they are doing at YRED?

http://file048b.bebo.com/16/large/2009/04/29/11/4525920200a10718427910l.jpg

http://file048b.bebo.com/16/large/2009/04/29/11/4525920200a10718427926l.jpg

And a nice sunset...... pity some bugger parked a plane in the way! :}.....ohhh was me:hmm:
http://file048b.bebo.com/16/large/2009/04/29/11/4525920200a10718427945l.jpg

Ohhh yes..... and to keep the Dr happy! :ok:
http://file048b.bebo.com/16/large/2009/04/29/11/4525920200a10718427954l.jpg

[Joker 10]

430 ways to stay away

[Jabawocky]

Some video too!
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[kiwi chick]

430 ways to stay away

:confused: from what and why? I'm lost, forgive me.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

This screen appearred while I was enroute Winton to Townsville yesterday with the GPS feeding data to the AP.

It said it was in dead reckoning mode - so I just let it go.

http://www.fototime.com/EEA48618A3274AF/standard.jpg

This is how far off track we were about 3 min later, when the GPS had found itself again!

http://www.fototime.com/62F934C058EA19D/standard.jpg

Pretty crap dead reckoning, if you ask me!

Dr :8

PS: The Garmin 496 had it nailed the whole time.

[ZEEBEE]

FTDK

That's very strange...Yesterday (Thursday) on a flight returning fro Albany to Northam, I had numerous RAIM alarms on the 210's Garmin also.

Worked fine on the flight down earlier that day and the GPS was not known to be marginal.

I wonder how many others had dropouts ?

[Ultralights]

does dropping the chart on the floor count?

[VH-XXX]

So the Benalla theory is that that message was simply "acknowledged" by the pilot....... interesting.

[Nivo]

I also had a GNS480 drop out twice for short periods Thursday evening (~7.30pm local, 0930 UTC) as I was approaching YARM in a 210.

Forecast and conditions were CAVOK so I hadn't checked RAIM, so I don't know if the outages were predicted or not.

Nivo

[tinpis]

Early nav kit, anyone know wassit?
Not my legs or St Vinnie shoes BTW :uhoh:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/tinpis/snl.jpg

[heywatchthis]

Looks like a nomad to me...:ok:

[Peter Fanelli]

I concur


Nomad with some interesting equipment. RFDS perhaps.

[an3_bolt]

Something to do with VLF? :eek:

[Duck Dogers]

That my dear chappies is a Loran :ok:

[tinpis]

GNS-500. VH-SNL Litton equipped N-22 circa 1981

Never let a ship through :ok:

[tinpis]

Anyone had a grapple with one of these?

http://www.siai-marchetti.nl/sm1019/n391rv1.jpghttp://www.siai-marchetti.nl/sm1019/i-afri3.jpghttp://www.siai-marchetti.nl/sm1019/i-afri2.jpg

[Capt Fathom]

Plenty of people here would recognize the Nomad Searchmaster!

Fitted with either an VLF Omega or an INS?, (plus 360 deg search radar and other goodies) for it's patrol/coastwatch role.

When the tenders went out, they specified the use of the Searchmaster. No doubt to bolster the sales of Nomads!

Oops! A bit slow with my reply!

[Horatio Leafblower]

That there would be the "Wog Dog", the italian-Built SM1019 turbine-version of the venerable C305.

Pay imported a swag of 'em in the late 1990s I think, and there are 2 still in Scone. I'll see if I can scratch up a photo of their air-attack ship which should be deployed in the 2009/10 fire season.

[tinpis]

Ho.. we'll get Chucks up there to give flight test report :ok:

[ju7ez]

That there would be the "Wog Dog"

Wouldn't that be "Bird Dog"? :}

[Cloud Basher]

Take a gander at this! Ouch!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/5%20May%20Flying%20day/P5011477.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/5%20May%20Flying%20day/P5011470.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/5%20May%20Flying%20day/P5011476.jpg

It was in a C310. Apparently the pilot lost oil pressure, temps went through the roof and smoke was billowing out of it. It was still making partial power so pilot decided to use all the power available on the engine to get to the field rather than secure it. It ran for 15 minutes before they shut it down once they landed and exited the runway (RH engine was running fine...). This is the result...

Cheers
CB

[aldee]

Can't understand why it was making only "partial power"

Someone's gonna be looking for a bucket of $$$'s:eek:

It ran for 15 minutes before they shut it down once they landed and exited the runway

Why would you do that:confused:

[RadioSaigon]

...It ran for 15 minutes...

That is one seriously tough engine!!! Wouldn't count on every engine in a similar situation to perform as well!

BTW: Reckon it might be some considerable time before the 'pilot' controlling that engine is allowed anywhere near anything quite as expensive again :ok:

[Horatio Leafblower]

If she's lost oil pressure and is smoking, would shutting it down mean you could use it again?

Would using that last gasp of power from it perhaps help assure a safer outcome for your clients?

A LAME friend of mine once told me that if you lose the oil pressure suddenly, the engine is rooted no matter how promptly you secure it. :8