BA Direct Entry Pilot.
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From: AMS
Ladies & Gents, good evening,
Just got the invitation to come over to LHR next month for the 1st stage. Any tips on a good prep? Thanks in advance!
Stephan
Just got the invitation to come over to LHR next month for the 1st stage. Any tips on a good prep? Thanks in advance!
Stephan
Last edited by Steve1988; 22nd August 2019 at 22:27.
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From: Europe

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From: Somewhere
Apologies if this has already been posted. Anyone not turning up for their duty today has had their pay deducted for the entire trip (e.g. 5 - 6 day) not just the days of the strike. It has also been deducted at the credited hours for that trip even though the flight has been cancelled. Office workers would be penalised by one day of pay for each day they didn't work. BA pilots have been penalised by the whole cost of the trip at their full rate. Some have calculated that at this rate of deduction, they will have a negative pay check after missing two rostered trips on strike days.
Additionally, all have lost staff travel for 3 years, lost any company wide bonus for this year, lost any pilot only bonus for 2017-19 as negotiated two years ago, no access to overtime rate to pick up trips (this is probably fair enough), plus no chance to bid for a fleet change on long haul - for ever ! This punishment has been in the planning for several weeks as the emails were sent out within hours of a failed report. If anyone thinks this is not a predetermined program by BA to break BALPA and the pilots then they are being naïve.
So if anyone thinks it will be better to cave in now and accept the consequences, the above shows the aims of BA. Break the pilots and tear up any industrial agreements. I feel sorry for the guys with long careers ahead if this is allowed to happen.
Additionally, all have lost staff travel for 3 years, lost any company wide bonus for this year, lost any pilot only bonus for 2017-19 as negotiated two years ago, no access to overtime rate to pick up trips (this is probably fair enough), plus no chance to bid for a fleet change on long haul - for ever ! This punishment has been in the planning for several weeks as the emails were sent out within hours of a failed report. If anyone thinks this is not a predetermined program by BA to break BALPA and the pilots then they are being naïve.
So if anyone thinks it will be better to cave in now and accept the consequences, the above shows the aims of BA. Break the pilots and tear up any industrial agreements. I feel sorry for the guys with long careers ahead if this is allowed to happen.
I wouldn’t wish this company on my worst enemy right now.

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From: The Winchester
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I don’t think he’s suggesting that at all. I took it to mean that in light of current events prospective joiners should be fully aware of what sort of “organisation” they are trying to get into.
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Just to be clear - I'm not suggesting for one moment the "business may be at risk".
I am suggesting if that BALPA lose their influence as a result of the current difficulties then potential new joiners would be wise to reassess where BA pilots' T&Cs ( e.g. rostering, days off down route, hotel standards) might be headed.
Last edited by wiggy; 13th September 2019 at 11:07.

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They are still working on the manpower plan for next year so unlikely to hear anything yet. Expect to get three months notice pretty much on the dot if you are slated for January.

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Definitely do not just gloss over the warning I posted further up the thread. The behaviour from management has been utterly disgusting and I’m now ashamed to be a part of this airline. Management in the desert couldn’t even hope to exceed some of the abhorrent things that have been happening. You are not escaping that kind of culture by coming to BA, in fact it may be out of the frying pan into the fire considering your salary for enduring such things will be considerably less. Make no mistake, British Airways with the incumbent management is a horrible place to work.
Last edited by Plastic787; 14th September 2019 at 18:27.

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From: The Winchester
I guess if that sort of rostering floats a person's boat then yep, it might still be the THE airline to work for.
Last edited by wiggy; 16th September 2019 at 17:11. Reason: update to add the YVR 380 info.
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From: Dubai
Anyone have an upcoming Stage 3 sim that would be keen to do some practise 9th or 10th Oct? Please PM me. Many thanks!
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