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Old 19th Jun 2019, 08:59
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How long are people waiting in the hold pool for SH recently? I note a post from May from someone saying theyíd been waiting two months.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 09:04
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Yeah I've been waiting the the SH pool since April. Hopefully it will pick up again soon.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Gingerbread Man View Post
How long are people waiting in the hold pool for SH recently? I note a post from May from someone saying theyíd been waiting two months.
Iíve been in the SH hold pool since mid-May. Hoping for some course start dates soon
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 15:15
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Just as bit of news for potential new joiners today, a Chief Pilot video has been delivered to our inboxes (mostly about ongoing industrial negotiations) in which he says he wants to share with us some exciting ideas for flight ops to benefit both us and the company. The cynic in me is guessing he’s referring to Klaus’ 24 hour Long Haul slips downroute
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 15:21
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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post
Just as bit of news for potential new joiners today, a Chief Pilot video has been delivered to our inboxes (mostly about ongoing industrial negotiations) in which he says he wants to share with us some exciting ideas for flight ops to benefit both us and the company. The cynic in me is guessing heís referring to Klausí 24 hour Long Haul slips downroute

Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I canít help but feel if thatís the case thereís surely no point in being long haul? By the time youíve had a sleep and something to eat, youíve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 15:41
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Heisenb3rg I’m guessing it’s got to be the destinations where there are regular and daily flights, Heathrow stuff like Nashville, Durban, Charleston and Gatwick trips like Mauritius and the Maldives etc would stay safe because the schedule simply wouldn’t allow it. For destinations like Los Angeles and San Fran though it’s an utter game changer and I agree with you, there’s literally no point in doing long haul if all you’re doing is slipping 24 hours an an airport hotel downroute. The sickening thing though is they’re (read Klaus is) trying to sell it like it’s in our interests because we’d have more “time at home”. It’s in reality their wet dream to reduce costs even further at the expense of flight safety.

This is why we cannot back down now in these industrial negotiations because once BA/IAG management see weakness they’ll be like a cat with its prey, being cruel and vindictive until the life force of the workforce has disappeared.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 17:52
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How do you know if youíre in the short haul hold pool or not? Are you informed once youíre successful in the sim?
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 18:26
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg View Post



Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I canít help but feel if thatís the case thereís surely no point in being long haul? By the time youíve had a sleep and something to eat, youíve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool.
Aer Lingus currently do 24 hour layovers to LA and SFO for the crew. I donít think itís airport hotels they stay in though. I guess IAG will benchmark their long haul crew costs vs the rest of the group owned airlines and come up with the lowest number for all.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 18:32
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Originally Posted by Berbly View Post
How do you know if youíre in the short haul hold pool or not? Are you informed once youíre successful in the sim?
Yes, in the email I got when I passed the sim I was told that I would be on the A320 fleet.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 18:40
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What are the requirements for the A318 LCY-JFK flights? Does one need a certain amount of Airbus hours?
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 19:15
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Not sure of the actual hour requirement Percula however as a junior pilot youíll be nowhere near the seniority required for the fleet, especially now itís down to one aircraft. To the best of my recollection itís actually more senior than the 787 and the rest of the long haul fleets so the required Airbus hours would be a given by the time you achieved that level of seniority. (Unless you joined in Gatwick on the Max but thatís another story!)
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 20:16
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Most junior LCY captain 1026
Most junior LCY co-pilot 3327

Most junior 777 captain 1244
Most junior 777 co-pilot 4555

Most junior 787 captain 1608
Most junior 787 co-pilot 4553

Most junior 747 captain 1643
Most junior 747 co-pilot 4531

Most junior A380 captain 1653
Most junior A380 co-pilot 4557

Most junior A350 captain 1803
Most junior A350 co-pilot 3194

So, as Rex says, the LCY Airbus is more senior than other fleets for captains, although the A350 just beats it into second place for co-pilots. Itís certainly more senior than the 787.

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Old 19th Jun 2019, 20:18
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Thanks guys. I guess it will be retired by the time I'm senior enough.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 20:22
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Originally Posted by eckhard View Post

Most junior LCY captain 1026
Most junior LCY co-pilot 3327

Most junior 777 captain 1244
Most junior 777 co-pilot 4555

Most junior 787 captain 1608
Most junior 787 co-pilot 4553

Most junior 747 captain 1643
Most junior 747 co-pilot 4531

Most junior A380 captain 1653
Most junior A380 co-pilot 4557

Most junior A350 captain 1803
Most junior A350 co-pilot 3194

So, as Rex says, the LCY Airbus is more senior than other fleets for captains, although the A350 just beats it into second place for co-pilots. Itís certainly more senior than the 787.

For context if you were to join tomorrow youíd be in the late 4500s seniority-wise.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 21:01
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Are the new joiners on the 380 only Airbus rated?
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 21:10
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Assessment tips

Hi all,

Does anyone have any advice for the stage 1 computer assessment and verbal reasoning?

Any tips would be much appreciated.
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 02:21
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg View Post



Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I canít help but feel if thatís the case thereís surely no point in being long haul? By the time youíve had a sleep and something to eat, youíve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool.
We have regular 26 hr LH layovers on in Cathay Pacific. In the winter we do Boston, which is about 15hr flight time each way and get 26hrs on the layover! Iím on a HKG-YVR-JFK-HKG pattern as I type this. 35 hrs off in YVR and 25:30 in JFK. Averaging about 870 hours a year as a 777 Capt.......living the dream😂
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 04:34
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Nearly all EK layovers are 24 hours. Makes it really hard when you have to try and sleep twice in 24 hours.
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 08:25
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Norfolkungood yes but itís slightly different in Cathay as youíre flying with 4 crew, most BA flights are 3 crew.
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 08:34
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Just to avoid misunderstanding and perhaps raised expectations amongst potential joiners I take it by that you mean most of our "long range" ops is 3 pilot. Obviously (?) there's also a heck of a lot of two pilot work around at BA, even on the Long Haul Fleets.
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