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Old 18th May 2019, 12:24
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Concur with Wiggy, you want to take any potential Long Haul roster you have been shown on a roadshow with a huge pinch of salt. Iím taking it they havenít been advertising the most recent JSS rosters for those junior particularly on the 777 & 747 fleets.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 10:36
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Interesting that there are more people leaving with seniority numbers above 3500 than those naturally reaching retirement date some with numbers above 4300.
i think JSS has been a game changer for many and looking at junior rosters they look unsustainable in the long term.
cant believe it was voted for.

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Old 22nd May 2019, 12:30
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It is very easy to understand why it was voted in - BALPA recommended it. Within BA, pretty much all ballots go the way BALPA recommends. A very large proportion of the membership cannot even be bothered to read the detail of what they are voting for.

I agree with your point about the sustainability of rosters at the bottom of JSS. BALPA are desperately tweaking inhibitors in an attempt to find a solution which is not as drastic as rolling seniority, but it has not really worked so far. I think the time will come where they have to at least vary the block of seniority affected by global constraints and crew repair. Hitting the same people over and over and over with extra work is not going to be tolerated in the long term. In the past, extra work was given to those who were not working so hard. With JSS, extra work is going to those at the bottom until they can work no harder, regardless of how hard the senior guys are working. That is inefficient rostering and will lead to sickness at the bottom, which will lead to more inefficiency. BA will not accept that and will demand solutions.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 12:42
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Ai I said before time will tell but I think BA need to address JSS issues sooner rather than later. It might work for those at the top but falls way short of giving a junior pilot a reasonable roster.
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Old 29th May 2019, 01:59
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What are the chances of a new hire with enough time for upgrade on the A320 getting LHR instead of LGW purely for the fact they could possibly be commuting so would prefer tours instead of coming back most nights like I believe is what happens at LGW.

Also what are pilots likely to end up on that are accepted in the DEP program? Is there room to negotiate which fleet you would like. I would prefer 320 to long haul as a commuter.

Im only going on my experience which is 6000 hours and 3000 plus jet hours, 2000 plus twin turboprop hours.

Any input is much appreciated.
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Old 29th May 2019, 11:40
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Join Date: May 2019
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Anyone know what the constraints are for reapplication? Receiving mixed messages. Thank you.
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Old 29th May 2019, 12:43
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Anyone know what the constraints are for reapplication? Receiving mixed messages. Thank you.
If you have taken the Maths/Verbal Reasoning/Aptitude tests then its 12 months from then - if you didn't get that far then its 6 months....
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Old 29th May 2019, 12:52
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How about rejection at the sim stage? If one begins the process of reapplication, this is stipulated as a condition:

"I have not applied for this or a similar role within the last six months*

*If you have applied for any Pilot role at British Airways for which you were rejected at the testing stage, you are not eligible to reapply for another Pilot position until 12 months has elapsed since your test session."

I gleaned that I couldn't reapply until 12 months post sim, but my rejection notification email at stage 3 suggested 12 months from initial assessment. A little unclear.
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Old 31st May 2019, 18:05
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Can anyone shed some light on the reapplication process? Iím just coming up on a year since an unsuccessful assesment, and hoping to re apply. Dose the website just free you up to reapply, or is there something else that needs to be done. Any info appreciated.
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Old 31st May 2019, 23:05
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I applied in December but I didn't get a reply.. It says that I can't apply now..
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 06:50
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Originally Posted by rotordisk View Post
I applied in December but I didn't get a reply.. It says that I can't apply now..
You should only have a 12 month embargo if you attended one of the stages at Waterside or the Sim Centre and were not successful, the clock starts I believe is from the date of your last stage.

Best of luck
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 08:17
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I heard there has been some mass resignations on B777 recently ?
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by 99jolegg View Post
CL - compassionate leave
LA - annual leave with wraparound days after x4
LB - annual leave with wraparound days before x3
WR - wrap around days off (workable)
BW - bank withdrawal
SW - not sure off the top of my head
S2, S3, S4, S5 - simulator. The number refers to the time slot. I2, I3, I4, I5 would refer to the instructorís roster.
NA - non-assignable day associated with DD usually
DD - duty free week associated with NA day at the beginning. Can be worked in if desired.
ZZ - break, usually to denote days off after a trip on reserve
RP - reserve period
PR - protected day off, for a variety of reasons
PL - not sure EDIT: paternity leave
PD - part-time days off
GT - ground training e.g. SEP
GD - ground duty
LFS - Leading Flight Safety course
FDO - fixed days off associated with a reserve period
HSB - HSB associated with a reserve period

Depending on the roster format youíre looking at but you can usually tell by the destinations.
SW = Swap
PL = Parental Leave ie annual allowance, unpaid
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 11:28
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Originally Posted by CXKA View Post
You should only have a 12 month embargo if you attended one of the stages at Waterside or the Sim Centre and were not successful, the clock starts I believe is from the date of your last stage.

Best of luck
I didnít attend any stage and I did not even get a response.
The only thing I got was a confirmation that my application had been submitted.
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 15:45
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Originally Posted by rotordisk View Post


I didnít attend any stage and I did not even get a response.
The only thing I got was a confirmation that my application had been submitted.
It might be your application is still in the pipeline to be reviewed. Maybe send recruitment an email or give them a ring. They are a really friendly bunch who are very helpful and understanding.
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 15:58
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Originally Posted by Jumbo2 View Post
It might be your application is still in the pipeline to be reviewed. Maybe send recruitment an email or give them a ring. They are a really friendly bunch who are very helpful and understanding.
thanks
Do you know what the application status should say when I have been rejected? On the BA job website.
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 17:16
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Recruitment automatic email FAQs:

I was unsuccessful at a previous British Airways recruitment application, when can I reapply?

If you had stumbled at the initial online application screening stage, you would be eligible to apply again after 6 months. If you attended Waterside for any of the subsequent selection stages, the wait is 12 months from the date of testing, or 6 months from any other stage of application whichever is the greater.

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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 09:27
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Maybe not the ideal thread for this queation, but how will the LHR ULEZ affect BA employees and their ability to park at LHR?

Are BA employees essentially going to have to pay to go to work and park in a private vehicle?

Has this issue been raised internally or by the Union?

Just curious.

Thanks.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 10:01
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Originally Posted by Mrglass View Post
Maybe not the ideal thread for this queation, but how will the LHR ULEZ affect BA employees and their ability to park at LHR?

Are BA employees essentially going to have to pay to go to work and park in a private vehicle?

Has this issue been raised internally or by the Union?

Just curious.

Thanks.
Isnít it just for drop off and pick up?
Otherwise that would suck.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 11:09
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I think you are correct AH....Heathrow media statement here.

As I understand it from other sources those working at the airport will be exempt from the charges.




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