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Old 11th Jun 2019, 14:24
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You only have to look at the number of private plated cars, (and I am not talking about cc) to see that they do care what people think about them.
its all about status with some of them. But hey it's a free country and they are free to spend their cash as they please.
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 07:04
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Smile

A320 CAP is registered to a Blue Talbot clearly status and pay is not all itís made out to be.
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 07:22
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To be fair, how many of these cringeworthy personalised plates were gifts from well meaning family that the person doesn't have the heart to discard? I know if my family got me JNRTRSH or similar I'd have to pretend to like it 😂

sorry for the thread creep!
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 08:46
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Oh this is good.....

I have personalised regs on my truck (off an old Range Rover I bought at auction) and car (off an old airline Vauxhall).

When at work I also consider myself a somebody who's responsible for the crew, pax, airframe and the rest.

Should be a good conversation in the cruise.
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 08:53
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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post
Alright then Right Engine. You give me the number of how many unfrozen pilots that have actually been denied moves to Long Haul from Short Haul as a result of Long Haul DEP. The number is miniscule in the greater scheme of things.

More or less everybody in recent years has been getting their move after 5 years, if not a little bit less than that, one Airbus pilot I know moved in the final year of her freeze to the 777 after only 3 and a bit years due to joining in December of the first training year.

Iím only trying to point this out because some people are posting some very overly negative and misleading stuff about joining on the airbus and the risks associated with that. Iíve crunched the numbers and right now everything is pointing to me being on a Long Haul course in early 2021 having joined early 2016 (and possibly next year if enough people above me decide to stay as senior P2 on the Airbus due JSS). Thatís exactly as advertised when I joined the company.

(And MikeAlpha320 I take your point about courses not necessarily being available but, even with a slowdown thatís unlikely right now due to the large retirement numbers due in 2020/21).
Genuinely interested here Rex. What did you base your numbers on? Iím slightly ahead of you, joined mid-late 2015 and am unfrozen in this yearís bid, but donít think Iíll get anything for a couple of years. That said I havenít done too much work into it. I have already deleted and re entered my PRIAM twice, as life is getting pretty good with seniority on the Airbus, so donít know if I want to race to the bottom of a LH status list. I guess it depends on how many people are feeling like me. I look at junior LH rosters and think they look terrible compared to mine at the moment, but then every now and then Iíll openly admit I get big, shiny jet syndrome.
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 11:00
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I joined just before you wonderbus, early 2015 and am unfrozen next year, like you I am weighing up the pros and cons of a fleet move - Iím just inside the top 25% shorthaul and the rosters I am getting are more than satisfactory, in fact they are pretty much what I want.

have a look on IBId and change your fleet, it will show you where you would be seniority wise if you change fleets, I would be at 66% on the 747, 72% on the 777, 74% on the 787 and 85% on the 380, this should prevent us getting the very poor rosters the very junior joes get (although the numbers donít look great on the 380 letís face it there are no bad trips on that fleet). Itís the huge advantage of doing shorthaul first, we jump all the junior guys when we change fleets, I do feel sorry for those joining the longhaul fleets now as a DEP as they will be at the bottom for years and years as all those shorthaul guys slot in above them as they move fleets.

Big decisions for us senior shorthaul guys though, good luck making it .
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 12:00
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Always fancied 645 NCP myself as a private plate. Probably pick it up for a song too.
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 16:40
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Originally Posted by Biggles88 View Post
Iíve been in the pool about the same time now. I heard from a source that they have stopped SH training for Aug & Sep as they canít afford to release the trainers off the line over the busy summer schedule. Not sure how true it is but hopefully courses will start again in the Autumn.
Thanks for the info Biggles88. Fingers crossed
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 17:21
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Pension

Is it possible to transfer the BA pension into a SIPP or are you locked into their scheme?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 17:55
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Originally Posted by aceman18 View Post
Is it possible to transfer the BA pension into a SIPP or are you locked into their scheme?

Thanks in advance!
you can change when the window is open once a year
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 18:44
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You can also transfer money out of BAPP and into your own SIPP any time you like.
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 19:24
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Thanks guys.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 08:59
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How long are people waiting in the hold pool for SH recently? I note a post from May from someone saying theyíd been waiting two months.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 09:04
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Yeah I've been waiting the the SH pool since April. Hopefully it will pick up again soon.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Gingerbread Man View Post
How long are people waiting in the hold pool for SH recently? I note a post from May from someone saying theyíd been waiting two months.
Iíve been in the SH hold pool since mid-May. Hoping for some course start dates soon
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 15:15
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Just as bit of news for potential new joiners today, a Chief Pilot video has been delivered to our inboxes (mostly about ongoing industrial negotiations) in which he says he wants to share with us some exciting ideas for flight ops to benefit both us and the company. The cynic in me is guessing he’s referring to Klaus’ 24 hour Long Haul slips downroute
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 15:21
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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post
Just as bit of news for potential new joiners today, a Chief Pilot video has been delivered to our inboxes (mostly about ongoing industrial negotiations) in which he says he wants to share with us some exciting ideas for flight ops to benefit both us and the company. The cynic in me is guessing heís referring to Klausí 24 hour Long Haul slips downroute

Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I canít help but feel if thatís the case thereís surely no point in being long haul? By the time youíve had a sleep and something to eat, youíve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 15:41
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Heisenb3rg I’m guessing it’s got to be the destinations where there are regular and daily flights, Heathrow stuff like Nashville, Durban, Charleston and Gatwick trips like Mauritius and the Maldives etc would stay safe because the schedule simply wouldn’t allow it. For destinations like Los Angeles and San Fran though it’s an utter game changer and I agree with you, there’s literally no point in doing long haul if all you’re doing is slipping 24 hours an an airport hotel downroute. The sickening thing though is they’re (read Klaus is) trying to sell it like it’s in our interests because we’d have more “time at home”. It’s in reality their wet dream to reduce costs even further at the expense of flight safety.

This is why we cannot back down now in these industrial negotiations because once BA/IAG management see weakness they’ll be like a cat with its prey, being cruel and vindictive until the life force of the workforce has disappeared.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 17:52
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How do you know if youíre in the short haul hold pool or not? Are you informed once youíre successful in the sim?
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 18:26
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg View Post



Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I canít help but feel if thatís the case thereís surely no point in being long haul? By the time youíve had a sleep and something to eat, youíve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool.
Aer Lingus currently do 24 hour layovers to LA and SFO for the crew. I donít think itís airport hotels they stay in though. I guess IAG will benchmark their long haul crew costs vs the rest of the group owned airlines and come up with the lowest number for all.
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