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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 15:57
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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey View Post
This hasn't been my experience. Out of 4 applications for parental leave I have only been successful once. On top of that it is never approved out of the gate, it is always waitlisted and you are left unable to make plans.
Do you mind me asking if for the other 3 they offered you alternative dates? The theory goes that you can ask for upto 4 weeks per year per child and whilst your employer can refuse, has to give you an alternative time within 6 months of the original date requested.

(FWIW I tried that argument at a previous employer and they offered dates unpaid that I was already due to be on leave, not really in the spirit!!)
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 16:41
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Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder View Post


You sure? Do you mean by selling it back?
Very sure. You can swap trips onto LGW leave without issues or do overtime, done it many times.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 18:54
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I read somewhere else in the depths of this site that long haul layovers are to eventually be reduced to 24hrs. Any truth to that or just plain rumour mill? Doesnít sound like time for much more than dinner, very short sightseeing trip if you can be bothered, sleep, eat, fly home...
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 19:09
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Originally Posted by Busdriver01 View Post
I read somewhere else in the depths of this site that long haul layovers are to eventually be reduced to 24hrs. Any truth to that or just plain rumour mill? Doesnít sound like time for much more than dinner, very short sightseeing trip if you can be bothered, sleep, eat, fly home...
when I used to be at BA , Seattle was a night stop and supposedly rumours that SFO/LAX may get reduced to 1 night
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 20:08
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Originally Posted by Busdriver01 View Post
I read somewhere else in the depths of this site that long haul layovers are to eventually be reduced to 24hrs. Any truth to that or just plain rumour mill? Doesn’t sound like time for much more than dinner, very short sightseeing trip if you can be bothered, sleep, eat, fly home...



It has been “suggested” by one of the very senior management...

I think it went something along the lines of “ you know, if you reduced rest down route it would mean more time at home”......I might be wrong but the follow up might have. been something to do with having a bridge to sell.

I guess the idea might get some traction with those who get bored with LAX, HKG or SFO etc but I don’t think most people are interested so IMHO it’s not an immediate threat but it is obviously on a wish list.

Riskybis - the slip timings you describe, a consequence of the ancient and cunningly named “West Coast agreement”, are still intact.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 08:58
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Join Date: Aug 2018
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I recently applied for BA and now I have to complete an online assessment. Can anyone give me some more details about what to expect?

Thank you!
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 12:19
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Originally Posted by V737 View Post
I recently applied for BA and now I have to complete an online assessment. Can anyone give me some more details about what to expect?

Thank you!
Is that for BA mainline or BA cityflyer?

Both vacancies show on the BA.com career website but as far as I'm aware an online assessment is not part of the BA mainline selection.

BA mainline selection:
-Online application
-Day 1; Verbal and Numerical Reasoning and a computer test
-Day 2; Interview and Group exercise
-Day 3; Simulator assesment

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Old 26th Mar 2019, 09:39
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Are you sure he/she isnít talking about the pre-selection personality profile, or has that been canned?
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 11:49
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Can anyone shed any light on the Maths test? Is it the same as the FPP?
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 16:18
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Originally Posted by onichols1 View Post
Can anyone shed any light on the Maths test? Is it the same as the FPP?
It is quite easy, just make sure you work quick enough.
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 18:21
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Originally Posted by Riskybis View Post
SFO/LAX may get reduced to 1 night
Bad idea. More fatigued crew in 0A/B will not improve safety statistics.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 15:46
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Is there any truth in plans to change how reserve is allocated to address the senior/junior imbalance of working weekends? I've heard that basically the more weekends you work, the less reserve periods you'll be allocated. Thus, some senior guys may start electing to do more weekend work to avoid reserve I suppose?
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 17:45
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Not really true. The points you accrue by doing weekend work under JSS only become used as a tiebreaker when assigning reserve periods to people with otherwise equal points. (According to recent posts on yammer). Weekend points therefore make absolutely naff all difference to the frequency youíll do reserve as a junior pilot, especially as all the junior guys will have broadly equal weekend points as theyíre the ones whoíll be working all of them!
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 20:02
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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post
Not really true. The points you accrue by doing weekend work under JSS only become used as a tiebreaker when assigning reserve periods to people with otherwise equal points. (According to recent posts on yammer). Weekend points therefore make absolutely naff all difference to the frequency youíll do reserve as a junior pilot, especially as all the junior guys will have broadly equal weekend points as theyíre the ones whoíll be working all of them!
Thanks for clarifying.

Is this disparity of lifestyle between junior and senior pilots something that is trying to be addressed? I'm in a seniority based airline and while rosters are meant to have some seniority weighting, it doesn't seem to be anywhere near as critical as at BA. Is this just going to be a fact of life at BA or is there a push for some change while maintaining some advantage of being senior?
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 21:07
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BALPA keep amending the inhibitors to try and broadly flatten the gradient slightly and allow a greater spread of work down the seniority list. However, someone’s gold is another person’s sh*t. Everyone has their own preferences. I’m about 75% on the Airbus FO list and broadly get what I want (providing I don’t get shafted with global constraints). The downside is that I have to work every weekend to have a chance of achieving reasonable trips.

Weekends worked seems to be the main bug bear at the moment. I really think BA needs to perhaps introduce a minimum number of weekends worked even if you’re at the top of the list. Maybe 1 weekend in 4 or even 8 weeks with junior people getting 1 off in 4 (or 8). How it would be introduced is a discussion for later. Personally I don’t mind on the whole but it really affects others. Golden days are great but the lead time for putting them in is quite long and many of my friends outside of the industry haven’t quite grasped that. Therefore a lot of social invites for weekend get-togethers have to be turned down due to work.

Reserve is something else that needs to be looked at. A 28 day block is tough on your personal life. I believe BALPA and BA are thinking of introducing shorter blocks in addition to the current blocks to give people a bit of a choice. Without moaning about part timers, a lot of them haven’t done reserve for years if the computer is physically unable to insert a reserve period into their roster without clashing with their part time weeks. That to me doesn’t seem fair and would spread out the reserve duties a bit if it was fixed.

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Old 27th Mar 2019, 21:30
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Does anybody have any insight as to current wait time in the pool, or number of swimmers please?
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 00:49
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Originally Posted by champair79 View Post
BALPA keep amending the inhibitors to try and broadly flatten the gradient slightly and allow a greater spread of work down the seniority list. However, someoneís gold is another personís sh*t. Everyone has their own preferences. Iím about 75% on the Airbus FO list and broadly get what I want (providing I donít get shafted with global constraints). The downside is that I have to work every weekend to have a chance of achieving reasonable trips.

Weekends worked seems to be the main bug bear at the moment. I really think BA needs to perhaps introduce a minimum number of weekends worked even if youíre at the top of the list. Maybe 1 weekend in 4 or even 8 weeks with junior people getting 1 off in 4 (or 8). How it would be introduced is a discussion for later. Personally I donít mind on the whole but it really affects others. Golden days are great but the lead time for putting them in is quite long and many of my friends outside of the industry havenít quite grasped that. Therefore a lot of social invites for weekend get-togethers have to be turned down due to work.

Reserve is something else that needs to be looked at. A 28 day block is tough on your personal life. I believe BALPA and BA are thinking of introducing shorter blocks in addition to the current blocks to give people a bit of a choice. Without moaning about part timers, a lot of them havenít done reserve for years if the computer is physically unable to insert a reserve period into their roster without clashing with their part time weeks. That to me doesnít seem fair and would spread out the reserve duties a bit if it was fixed.

champ
Totally agree, this stuff desperately needs addressing. Even some of the more senior guys admit (not even reluctantly) that JSS is totally unfair in its current form. They get literally everything they want whilst we juniors work the weekends and suffer bi-monthly reserve at the cost of having a life. As one of these lemmings, I can honestly say that my lifestyle has never been this bad - even my whopping £400 net bonus hasn't made up for it.

BA are well known for their glacial pace of change, so I think it's fair to assume that any improvement to these significant issues won't gain momentum unless it transpires a few quid can be saved. We can live in hope though!
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 09:53
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Reserve is something else that needs to be looked at. A 28 day block is tough on your personal life. I believe BALPA and BA are thinking of introducing shorter blocks in addition to the current blocks to give people a bit of a choice. Without moaning about part timers, a lot of them haven’t done reserve for years if the computer is physically unable to insert a reserve period into their roster without clashing with their part time weeks. That to me doesn’t seem fair and would spread out the reserve duties a bit if it was fixed.
You can probably expect to see some shorter Reserve periods before much longer in Shorthaul. There is a suggestion that some 28 day periods (with 7 Fixed Days Off) will be retained as some people like the big block of days off. The intent is to bring shorter reserves onto Longhaul as well but that is a work in progress still, given that the longest longhaul trips is 9 days. I would expect to see shorter periods there too eventually, although perhaps ten or fourteen days (with pro-rated FDOs) in addition to the current format. What longhaul really needs though is reserve with two Fixed Days Off at the end to stop Current Ops taking the mick...
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 12:13
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Originally Posted by ChrisE View Post
Does anybody have any insight as to current wait time in the pool, or number of swimmers please?
As soon as they can plug you into the training plan you will get called I believe, particularly if you are already rated on a type we operate. No swimming as such these days!
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 19:50
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Quite correct, but the Madrid viewpoint is no incident = no problem! Push is as far as you can and see what happens to the share price.

Originally Posted by ph-sbe View Post
Bad idea. More fatigued crew in 0A/B will not improve safety statistics.
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