Is Ukraine about to have a war?
Ukrainian Flight- and ground-crews have apparently spent some weeks undergoing training. Presumably the Ukrainian forces therefore see some merit in their acquisition.
Only half a speed-brake
Somehow I cannot get rid of the idea of UKR asking select CEE and EU governments for a joint military / police force assitance WEST of Dnipro and let's say no closer than 60 kms from the Belarusian border. Tell me you are NATO without being NATO.
Build up inland support infrastructure (off-field hospitals, repair stations, food processing...) that would bring along their own AA assets. To free up UKR own resources which could be moved more densely close to the frontline. Having for example's sake an Austrian-Romanian deployment at Borodianka north of Kyiv, covered by a Spanish AA hardware
Keeping people warm and powered up seems to be a delicate task these days, sure. Just being afraid that without a change of gears this will all lead to a bloody stale mate once the Ukranians run out of ammo (literally). With Donetck region under occupation behind an umoveable frontline. That would be a dangerous rooting ground for rashist ideology ever onwards.
And Ukraine deserve better, we deserve to deliver better. Critical opinions welcome.
Build up inland support infrastructure (off-field hospitals, repair stations, food processing...) that would bring along their own AA assets. To free up UKR own resources which could be moved more densely close to the frontline. Having for example's sake an Austrian-Romanian deployment at Borodianka north of Kyiv, covered by a Spanish AA hardware
Keeping people warm and powered up seems to be a delicate task these days, sure. Just being afraid that without a change of gears this will all lead to a bloody stale mate once the Ukranians run out of ammo (literally). With Donetck region under occupation behind an umoveable frontline. That would be a dangerous rooting ground for rashist ideology ever onwards.
And Ukraine deserve better, we deserve to deliver better. Critical opinions welcome.
Keeping people warm and powered up seems to be a delicate task these days, sure. Just being afraid that without a change of gears this will all lead to a bloody stale mate once the Ukranians run out of ammo (literally). With Donetck region under occupation behind an umoveable frontline forever.
These are very old, mothballed airframes. I'm not sure of their value either. On the other hand, I think the Ukranians would benefit from plenty of warm, fighting gear.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The three SK supplied are SAR versions for aeromed etc, not the ASW birds.
Meanwhile.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022...on-to-ukraine/
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon said it will send Ukraine up to $400 million in artillery ammunition, weapons and supplies in its latest drawdown package to help the nation defend itself against Russia.
The security assistance package announced Wednesday includes more ammunition for HIMARS, HARM and 200 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds, the U.S. Department of Defense said in a statement.
It also includes 150 heavy machine guns with thermal imagery sights that Ukraine could use to shoot down Russian drones, the Pentagon said, as well as 10,000 120mm mortar rounds and additional munitions for NASAMS, air defense systems developed by Norway’s Kongsberg Defence and Aerospace and U.S. firm Raytheon Technologies.…
Meanwhile.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022...on-to-ukraine/
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon said it will send Ukraine up to $400 million in artillery ammunition, weapons and supplies in its latest drawdown package to help the nation defend itself against Russia.
The security assistance package announced Wednesday includes more ammunition for HIMARS, HARM and 200 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds, the U.S. Department of Defense said in a statement.
It also includes 150 heavy machine guns with thermal imagery sights that Ukraine could use to shoot down Russian drones, the Pentagon said, as well as 10,000 120mm mortar rounds and additional munitions for NASAMS, air defense systems developed by Norway’s Kongsberg Defence and Aerospace and U.S. firm Raytheon Technologies.…
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Much as I've been very reluctant for the West to get involved in yet another conflict on foreign soil, I am seriously worried that this view is going to gain more traction over the coming weeks and months. It frankly terrifies me if it were to happen, as our (as in the West's) track record of engaging in military action in foreign lands isn't exactly a glowing recommendation for the idea.
The multibillion dollar question is knowing how Russia might react if the West were to directly intervene, or even just give Ukraine longer range weapons that could strike deep within Russia. I frankly do not trust any of our assessments of Russian capability, as the past 9 months have proved, beyond doubt, that every one of our assessments has been completely wrong. If we can have been so wrong about their military capability, what else have we seriously misjudged about Russia?
The major fear is that the madmen in the Kremlin may choose to do the unthinkable, and use their nuclear weapons. Some assessments of the remaining Russian weapon capability are suggesting that they have few conventional long range missiles left, and at least two reports suggest that long range missiles that landed in Ukraine, but had no warheads, were dummy nukes, perhaps fired as decoys, perhaps fired out of desperation. This war is evolving into a massively more serious phase now, with Russia under severe sanctions, with badly depleted and poorly trained and equipped land forces, having been declared a terrorist state and having expended most of its warstock of reasonably capable conventional weapons. There has to be a risk that the Kremlin may decide they have nothing to lose by using tactical nukes, and that could well be precipitated by the West upping the ante and taking more direct action.
I would not like having to sit around a table in whatever sort of decision conference decides on these things, it seems an almost intractable problem, with no good outcomes.
The multibillion dollar question is knowing how Russia might react if the West were to directly intervene, or even just give Ukraine longer range weapons that could strike deep within Russia. I frankly do not trust any of our assessments of Russian capability, as the past 9 months have proved, beyond doubt, that every one of our assessments has been completely wrong. If we can have been so wrong about their military capability, what else have we seriously misjudged about Russia?
The major fear is that the madmen in the Kremlin may choose to do the unthinkable, and use their nuclear weapons. Some assessments of the remaining Russian weapon capability are suggesting that they have few conventional long range missiles left, and at least two reports suggest that long range missiles that landed in Ukraine, but had no warheads, were dummy nukes, perhaps fired as decoys, perhaps fired out of desperation. This war is evolving into a massively more serious phase now, with Russia under severe sanctions, with badly depleted and poorly trained and equipped land forces, having been declared a terrorist state and having expended most of its warstock of reasonably capable conventional weapons. There has to be a risk that the Kremlin may decide they have nothing to lose by using tactical nukes, and that could well be precipitated by the West upping the ante and taking more direct action.
I would not like having to sit around a table in whatever sort of decision conference decides on these things, it seems an almost intractable problem, with no good outcomes.
And drop all the rail and road bridges linking Russia to Ukraine on both sides of the border.
After that I also think they need to give permission given to start destroying Russias power infrastructure around Moscow as well as their tv transmission masts etc..
And give them fighters, I just hope training on them has already begun.
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indeed we don't have the balls to call it what it is: a terrorist state not a sponsor
its time to revoke all Russian diplomats and expel them from western countries (after listening to the Russian embassador in England totally blind to the Bucha massacre).
In the meantime Putin is destroying Ukraine, nothing left but ruins and civilians lying dead. In the meantime Prigozhin has the audacity to send a blood stained hammer to the European Parliament.
The west needs to face reality. Lack of courage.
its time to revoke all Russian diplomats and expel them from western countries (after listening to the Russian embassador in England totally blind to the Bucha massacre).
In the meantime Putin is destroying Ukraine, nothing left but ruins and civilians lying dead. In the meantime Prigozhin has the audacity to send a blood stained hammer to the European Parliament.
The west needs to face reality. Lack of courage.
The ONLY way I can see them ever stopping the threat from these missiles destroying the countries infrastructure is as I said before, it’s not to keep plowing defensive weapons into the Country, because they will never catch them all, they need to give them long range weapons capable of destroying that bridge, hitting the ships, subs and loading docks in Sevastopol, also hitting the facilities launching the suicide drones and hitting the bomber launching from over the Black Sea.
And drop all the rail and road bridges linking Russia to Ukraine on both sides of the border.
After that I also think they need to give permission given to start destroying Russias power infrastructure around Moscow as well as their tv transmission masts etc..
And drop all the rail and road bridges linking Russia to Ukraine on both sides of the border.
After that I also think they need to give permission given to start destroying Russias power infrastructure around Moscow as well as their tv transmission masts etc..
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Fighting a war where one side is not allowed to strike the other's territory is like playing football where one side isn't allowed over the half-way line. Makes no sense.
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What we don't know (and quite rightly so) is what's being done in terms of training those Ukrainians that are here and in the USA. There have been Ukrainian troops on Salisbury Plain for some time now, for example, and I've no doubt they are probably training elsewhere as well. Giving Ukraine long range weapons is sod all use unless they are competent to deploy them very effectively.
Think back to how long it takes to learn to use any bit of fairly complex kit competently. It's not a short process, especially as we know that they will get zero additional training when they get home, they need to be ready to use any new weapons and systems they are given the moment that set foot back on Ukrainian soil. For all we know that process might well be going on now, with a publicity black out because no one would want to tip off Russia as to what might be pointed in their direction before too long.
Think back to how long it takes to learn to use any bit of fairly complex kit competently. It's not a short process, especially as we know that they will get zero additional training when they get home, they need to be ready to use any new weapons and systems they are given the moment that set foot back on Ukrainian soil. For all we know that process might well be going on now, with a publicity black out because no one would want to tip off Russia as to what might be pointed in their direction before too long.
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A confectionery producer in Kazakhstan dropped a new ad for their chocolate bar called “Kazakhstan”.
In it, what looks like a Russian draft dodger walks over to Kazakhstan and is handed a chocolate bar.
He asks what it is and is told, “It’s the taste of freedom.”
Absolute fire.
A confectionery producer in Kazakhstan dropped a new ad for their chocolate bar called “Kazakhstan”.
In it, what looks like a Russian draft dodger walks over to Kazakhstan and is handed a chocolate bar.
He asks what it is and is told, “It’s the taste of freedom.”
Absolute fire.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Germany offered to move patriot air defense systems to Poland after missiles killed two polish citizens.
Poland ask Germany to move them to Ukraine.
Legends.
Poland ask Germany to move them to Ukraine.
Legends.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I’m seeing more and more talk of a Russian and Kazakhstan possible conflict... from both sides.
This is like a wounded animal lashing out at anyone.
Kazakhstan has a capable military, a big enough army and the Russian space program.
Go ahead and f around and find out
This is like a wounded animal lashing out at anyone.
Kazakhstan has a capable military, a big enough army and the Russian space program.
Go ahead and f around and find out
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What we don't know (and quite rightly so) is what's being done in terms of training those Ukrainians that are here and in the USA. There have been Ukrainian troops on Salisbury Plain for some time now, for example, and I've no doubt they are probably training elsewhere as well. Giving Ukraine long range weapons is sod all use unless they are competent to deploy them very effectively.
Think back to how long it takes to learn to use any bit of fairly complex kit competently. It's not a short process, especially as we know that they will get zero additional training when they get home, they need to be ready to use any new weapons and systems they are given the moment that set foot back on Ukrainian soil. For all we know that process might well be going on now, with a publicity black out because no one would want to tip off Russia as to what might be pointed in their direction before too long.
Think back to how long it takes to learn to use any bit of fairly complex kit competently. It's not a short process, especially as we know that they will get zero additional training when they get home, they need to be ready to use any new weapons and systems they are given the moment that set foot back on Ukrainian soil. For all we know that process might well be going on now, with a publicity black out because no one would want to tip off Russia as to what might be pointed in their direction before too long.