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Old 23rd Nov 2022, 23:06
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Shows some of Russia's losses in one region.

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Old 23rd Nov 2022, 23:07
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Originally Posted by ORAC
I’m seeing more and more talk of a Russian and Kazakhstan possible conflict... from both sides.
Sounds like hes just making stuff up. no way either would start a war
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Old 23rd Nov 2022, 23:49
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That includes replacing the string of 1980s-era radars in Canada’s north that form the backbone of this country’s contribution to Norad with more modern systems that can see farther and detect and track new types of weapons.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russia-res...011012308.html
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 05:47
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More on the previous report if the withdrawal of Russian forces from Crimea….


https://censor.net/en/video_news/338...ia_videophotos

Russians massively transfer military equipment from occupied Crimea to mainland - media. VIDEO&PHOTOS

In the occupied Crimea, a lively movement of columns of Russian military equipment was recorded from the occupied Kherson region in the direction of the Kerch bridge….
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 07:40
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Excellent thread on remaining Russian ASM/SSM/IRBM stocks.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...889127936.html
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 09:06
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Originally Posted by ORAC
More on the previous report if the withdrawal of Russian forces from Crimea….


https://censor.net/en/video_news/338...ia_videophotos

Russians massively transfer military equipment from occupied Crimea to mainland - media. VIDEO&PHOTOS

In the occupied Crimea, a lively movement of columns of Russian military equipment was recorded from the occupied Kherson region in the direction of the Kerch bridge….
As the main routes from Crimea to the Donbas are more or less under Ukrainian fire coverage, I wonder if they are going to either ship them through Russia and in via the border, either that or they could be transports that brought in Mobilics and are going for more. Let's hope they are just legging it.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 10:34
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Excellent thread on remaining Russian ASM/SSM/IRBM stocks.



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...889127936.html
If the numbers in this thread are reliable it sadly looks like the rain of precision missiles falling on the beleaguered people of Ukraine doesn’t have to stop any day soon even if stocks have been much depleted. Of course it may be that some of the remaining stock has been ‘converted’ into yachts and palaces. We can hope.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
If the numbers in this thread are reliable it sadly looks like the rain of precision missiles falling on the beleaguered people of Ukraine doesn’t have to stop any day soon even if stocks have been much depleted. Of course it may be that some of the remaining stock has been ‘converted’ into yachts and palaces. We can hope.
the thing is that Russia can't empty their stocks to Ukraine. They really need to have stocks to keep up deterrence and readiness. In essence, they should be decreasing their usage of missiles very sharply very soon.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 11:10
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Armenia just stuck the knife into Russia and the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)


They got their wish


So the fact the CSTO is no more there are unhappy people lol.


More on the reasoning behind it.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...1860c667b2d30f


That sledge hammer they sent to the EU, they should chop the head off it and send it back...


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Old 24th Nov 2022, 12:43
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Originally Posted by Beamr
the thing is that Russia can't empty their stocks to Ukraine. They really need to have stocks to keep up deterrence and readiness. In essence, they should be decreasing their usage of missiles very sharply very soon.
Doesn’t that assume some rational logic in their military decision making? Not too much evidence of that in their actions over the last 9 months which seem to have resulted in the destruction of a very high proportion of their military resources.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 12:49
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
That sledge hammer they sent to the EU, they should chop the head off it and send it back...
...or make up airfix kits of all the tanks, planes, helicopters, ships etc and those 1:72 soldiers in numbers to match what's been lost, shove them all in a box and give that as a present

It would have to be a big box
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Armenia just stuck the knife into Russia and the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)

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That is an interesting (and for Putin most critical one) development. First signs of the end of what was the "Russian Empire". And this after first rumours/signs of Kazakhstan starting to untie the ropes to Russia...

That sledge hammer they sent to the EU, they should chop the head off it and send it back...
That move by Prigozhin/Russia was so desperate/childish as it would get in the first place. I like the idea, cutting it to slices/chopping it and handing it back, though. You have to talk to children in a way that children do understand....
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 13:38
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Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
Doesn’t that assume some rational logic in their military decision making? Not too much evidence of that in their actions over the last 9 months which seem to have resulted in the destruction of a very high proportion of their military resources.
Point taken.
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Originally Posted by henra
That is an interesting (and for Putin most critical one) development. First signs of the end of what was the "Russian Empire". And this after first rumours/signs of Kazakhstan starting to untie the ropes to Russia...


That move by Prigozhin/Russia was so desperate/childish as it would get in the first place. I like the idea, cutting it to slices/chopping it and handing it back, though. You have to talk to children in a way that children do understand....
The other Idea I had was to add a set of crouquet hoops, balls, three extra sledge hammers and a set of instructions to the game, then ship them back.

Or send it to Zelensky and get him and his workforce to use it in publicity photos online using it to repair damaged buildings or even knocking in tent pegs etc, those will soon get back to Russia, showing both EU support by donating it and Ukrainain's using the Russians attempt as showing it's might in a practical everyday lowly use..

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Old 24th Nov 2022, 14:04
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Originally Posted by henra
That is an interesting (and for Putin most critical one) development. First signs of the end of what was the "Russian Empire". And this after first rumours/signs of Kazakhstan starting to untie the ropes to Russia...


That move by Prigozhin/Russia was so desperate/childish as it would get in the first place. I like the idea, cutting it to slices/chopping it and handing it back, though. You have to talk to children in a way that children do understand....
I have seen nothing of the original disgusting gesture in the media. Have I missed it, or is such crass, offensive and threatening behaviour by Putin now seen as the norm?
Grotesque, the product of a warped, evil failed state.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 14:14
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
I have seen nothing of the original disgusting gesture in the media. Have I missed it, or is such crass, offensive and threatening behaviour by Putin now seen as the norm?
See

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...eu/ar-AA14vaZp
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 14:59
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The best response to Prigozhin would be to send him a child's pacifier!
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
If the numbers in this thread are reliable it sadly looks like the rain of precision missiles falling on the beleaguered people of Ukraine doesn’t have to stop any day soon even if stocks have been much depleted. Of course it may be that some of the remaining stock has been ‘converted’ into yachts and palaces. We can hope.
Given these are the only weapons Russia is really employing to any effect, I wouldn't be surprised if they directed the majority of the arms industry to contribute to their production. Unfortunately they've found a chink in Ukraine's armour and are exploiting it to the full.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 15:29
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Yevgeny Fedorov, State Duma deputy from the United Russia party, called Armenia an "illegal state".
Seriously, what does expect the Russian state to do about this? Armenia is physically separated from Russia. What are they going to do - ask Georgia or Azerbaijan for permission to cross their territory? An airborne assault is out of the question given their airborne forces were decimated during the first months of the Ukraine invasion.

These people are so detached from reality its laughable.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 15:56
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
Given these are the only weapons Russia is really employing to any effect, I wouldn't be surprised if they directed the majority of the arms industry to contribute to their production. Unfortunately they've found a chink in Ukraine's armour and are exploiting it to the full.
You would think something as simple as a net type curtain slung between some scaffolding towers would protect the substations, the suicide drones are flying from one direction so you can position the screen to cover that direction and the curtain should catch the drone in its dive before it strikes the target. They all seem to rely on basic GPS and they must have a set glidepath to the target, so the angle should be able to be worked out and a screen erected accordingly.
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