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Old 29th Sep 2022, 14:12
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The question is does Ukraine have sufficient forces available to repel any incursion that may originate from Belarus?
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Interesting, Russian government published a tender for iodine pills worth 5mln rubles. The tender has appeared on the Russian public procurement portal (EIS Procurement). The purchase is urgent with only 4 days allocated for the procedure. The supply is intended for the needs of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise SPC "Pharmzashchita" of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency of Russia (a federal body that ensures radiation, chemical, biological safety of the country and the population of the Russian Federation).

https://daily.dialog.ua/259420_1664262687
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Interesting, Russian government published a tender for iodine pills worth 5mln rubles. The tender has appeared on the Russian public procurement portal (EIS Procurement). The purchase is urgent with only 4 days allocated for the procedure. The supply is intended for the needs of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise SPC "Pharmzashchita" of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency of Russia (a federal body that ensures radiation, chemical, biological safety of the country and the population of the Russian Federation).

https://daily.dialog.ua/259420_1664262687
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Interesting! Paranoia? Or fear of the likely nuclear response to Putin’s next stupidity?
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Good to see they have all wrapped their surrender flags around their kit.


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Old 29th Sep 2022, 19:00
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South Korea will provide $2.9 billion in military aid to Ukraine, among other items are MANPADS of the Chiron type.

Delivery goes first to the Czech Republic and will be redistributed to Ukraine.



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Old 29th Sep 2022, 19:09
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https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09...g-to-die-there

'Honestly, they're all going to die'

What Russian soldiers who have already fought in Ukraine think about Putin's mobilization effort
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Originally Posted by FUMR
The question is does Ukraine have sufficient forces available to repel any incursion that may originate from Belarus?
It may just be a ploy, send untrained Mobilitz to Belarus forcing a retention of Ukrainian troops for the “in case of invasion.”
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 19:58
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
It may just be a ploy, send untrained Mobilitz to Belarus forcing a retention of Ukrainian troops for the “in case of invasion.”
Ukraine has/ will have/ ought to have a deployable reserve held fairly centrally. Knowing what we now know, one would expect any foolish invasion to get very short shrift. And what would Belarus call it? War? In which case that country is entirely due missile and aviation to cross its border sharpish. Which would make their crass leadership even more unpopular with the plebs.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 20:01
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Originally Posted by MPN11
Interesting! Paranoia? Or fear of the likely nuclear response to Putin’s next stupidity?
Or a modest westerly at 10,000ft after Putin's next stupidity.
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BREAKING: Mysterious drone activity observed at the danish oil and gas field Halfdan B in the North Sea.

Danish police and government informed - Ekstrabladet
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Ukrainian media reports on the appearance of Iranian kamikaze drones on the territory of Belarus, which makes possible new attacks on northern regions of Ukraine including Kyiv
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Originally Posted by ORAC
BREAKING: Mysterious drone activity observed at the danish oil and gas field Halfdan B in the North Sea.

Danish police and government informed - Ekstrabladet
Not a brilliant plan
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Not certain that the NS1/NS2 itself does not have potential to trigger NATO Article 5. A national asset that is within the EEZ of a country or owned by that country would naturally allow a right of self defence against an armed attack, e.g., attack on a ship, a resource etc. If a drone attacked a Danish warship it is self evident that the warship would have a right of self defence and that is sanctioned by the UNC Article 51. It is therefore hard to say that an armed attack on an oil field, or on a pipeline that was owned by say, Germany would not permit a defensive response and therefore, so long as it was defined as an armed attack, it would potentially trigger Article 5. So, whodunnit?

The requirement is for the action to be an "armed attack", and the use of limpet mines, demo charges or an armed drone, would easily be more definitively armed than even 9/11 was, the arm on that day being box cutters... and 300,000 lbs of plane, people and jet fuel.
If NS1/NS2 was a deliberate attack using anything more than chewing gum, it could be argued to be a trigger event. Trashing the Danish oil fiends almost certainly would be as well, irrespective of being offshore.

Russia appears to easily meet the criteria of a terrorist state with their actions in Ukraine, Terrorists using PGMs, white phos, cluster bombs would be given no quarter, yet we have vacillated in calling Russia what it is. Glass houses... Armed Attack on German or Danish infrastructure in the Euro EEZ area is hard to dismiss, "terrorist" or not.

Not good.

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Old 29th Sep 2022, 21:15
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Intelligence: Probability of Russia striking Ukraine with tactical nuclear weapons is ‘very high'.


“They will likely target places along the frontlines with lots of personnel and equipment,” Vadym Skibitsky, a deputy head of Ukraine's military intelligence, told The Guardian.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
So much for selective conscription, and again its the republics getting hit, not the Russian core.



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No cars with loudspeakers lurking around the Kremlin? Moscow? St Petersburg Leningrad? What a surprise! Vlad is playing with fire with his client republics who are starting to show signs of irritation with the abusive parenting in Vlad's household. The children can always divorce their parents after a kick or two in the shins.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Intelligence: Probability of Russia striking Ukraine with tactical nuclear weapons is ‘very high'.

“They will likely target places along the frontlines with lots of personnel and equipment,” Vadym Skibitsky, a deputy head of Ukraine's military intelligence, told The Guardian.
Those areas are all upwind of Russia and Russian troops, but the radioactive fall out may be manageable, assuming that fuzing of Russian devices actually work. If not, not so good.

Expect to see some activity out of Whiteman and Andersen if intel starts to support a brain fart by Vlad. If I was a Russian conscript in any part of eastern Ukraine I would be emulating a mole and getting some dirt overhead for a conventional show of resolve by the supporters of Ukraines response to Russias criminal aggression.

Russia doesn't have a bright future as a member of the civilised world already, releasing TNW's removes any likelihood of a normal relationship until hell freezes over.
That there would be no response is asinine; a failure to respond gives a veritable green light to NK, PRC, PAK, etc to go and smoke their neighbours.... There is no TNW use without a severe and prompt international response. (nuts; that doesn't mean MAD, it means massive multinational strikes against any Russian military capability in Eastern Ukraine, irrespective of Vlad's illegitimate whining on "annexation").



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Originally Posted by langleybaston
Or a modest westerly at 10,000ft after Putin's next stupidity.
Or he’s ordering Iodine to try to legitimise his claims that he will use nukes.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 21:47
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Look at his eyes

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Old 29th Sep 2022, 23:02
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Three Russian Su-30SM fighter jets have reportedly landed in Belarus

These jets are not jets purchased by Belarus, those are arriving in October, but are regular Russian army jets.

The first such deployment since late March when the Kyiv offensive was still underway
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