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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 16th Sep 2022, 09:40
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Ukraine sadly running over their own troops in a frantic reverse..
Always worth checking the account to see which side they're on. This account is a pro-Russia shill so how knows what is happening in this vid - it could be either side's troops.
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 09:43
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
Always worth checking the account to see which side they're on. This account is a pro-Russia shill so how knows what is happening in this vid - it could be either side's troops.
White crosses on vehicles?
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 09:47
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White crosses on vehicles?
Fair enough - didn't spot that.
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 09:53
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The Russians caught on to the white crosses trick and began painting them on their own vehicles. I have seen other examples of white crosses on what were definitely Russian vehicles.
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Interesting thread on the Ukrainian's counter-offensive:

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FT reporting that Germany has seized control of Rosneft's oil refineries in the country - oof! Alas the article is paywalled
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
FT reporting that Germany has seized control of Rosneft's oil refineries in the country - oof! Alas the article is paywalled
Germany has taken the German subsidiary of the Russian oil giant Rosneft under state control, putting three refineries into a trusteeship ahead of a partial European embargo on Russian oil at the end of the year.

The federal network regulator will become the temporary trust manager of Rosneft Germany and its share of refineries in Schwedt, near Berlin, in Karlsruhe and in Vohburg, Bavaria, Germany’s ministry for economic affairs announced on Friday.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-state-control
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 13:19
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
White crosses on vehicles?
There's something about the behaviour and visibility of the crosses in that video that doesn't quite sit right with me. Entirely possible that they've been added in afterwards.
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 13:34
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Originally Posted by ORAC
The Russian government is administering an across-the-board cut of 10% in budgetary expenses. This is in reaction to a larger-than-expected decline of fiscal revenues over the summer (a deficit of close to 1.5 trillion rubles). This is likely only the first step.…
Vlad can save a lot more by selling his remaining arms to Ukraine rather than donating it, but either way, Vlad is assisting the demilitarizing of Russia, much to the appreciation of Kazakhstan, Chechnya, China, and Eritrea.
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 13:40
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Originally Posted by FUMR
The Russians caught on to the white crosses trick and began painting them on their own vehicles. I have seen other examples of white crosses on what were definitely Russian vehicles.
Also when have Ukraine ever been seen "fleeing" after "extremely heavy losses", or for that matter been desperately "running for their lives"?

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Old 16th Sep 2022, 13:41
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Originally Posted by FUMR
The Russians caught on to the white crosses trick and began painting them on their own vehicles. I have seen other examples of white crosses on what were definitely Russian vehicles.
It would only make sense to do that if the only threat was coming from the enemy, and that you weren't in any way worried about your own air force/army mistaking you for the other side. Says a lot about the state of Russian forces in the area, if true.
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 15:25
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Originally Posted by c-bert
There's something about the behaviour and visibility of the crosses in that video that doesn't quite sit right with me. Entirely possible that they've been added in afterwards.
Not only that, but in most of the vids and photos posted of Ukraine forces in the recent actions, the troops have all had pretty visible blue tape identification added to helmets, arms and legs and kit etc., and can't see any evidence of that on these troops?
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 16:41
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
Not only that, but in most of the vids and photos posted of Ukraine forces in the recent actions, the troops have all had pretty visible blue tape identification added to helmets, arms and legs and kit etc., and can't see any evidence of that on these troops?
In the end it doesn't even matter even if those were Ukrainian Troops. Accidents do happen as well as some unfortunate chaps getting caught in an ambush or taking a wrong turn and ending up in a hornet's nest. Two BMPs therefore retreating somewhat hastily are completely irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things.
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Ukrainian forces are pushing reportedly south of eastern Kupyansk in Borova direction.

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Defo Rusk forces, they are coming from the South pointing North.
If they were Ukes, they would be doing from the North pointing South.
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Over 7 million views on this thread. Wow.
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 22:51
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The situation with the provision of occupying troops on the western bank of the Dnieper is becoming critical, many units supplied with drinking water and ammunition exclusively at night and on stolen civilian vehicles. A number of units were ordered to retreat.
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Old 17th Sep 2022, 02:31
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Originally Posted by FUMR
The Russians caught on to the white crosses trick and began painting them on their own vehicles. I have seen other examples of white crosses on what were definitely Russian vehicles.
Curious.

If the intent is to use false markings to confuse the other team, been done before... it only took the Luftwaffe around a day to have invasion markings on aircraft attempting to drop bombs on the Normandy fleet. But the markings need to be visible to the other team to be confusing. Putting the markings on the rear end is great if you reverse into a firefight... Now the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight, on recent performance are quite likely to add markings in locations to confuse their own side. Given the facts, it would appear that the video is taken in the afternoon, and is of Russian forces having another "normal" day in the hood. If the time of the photos was known...
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Speech (taken from Y'tube video) by Chechen President Dzhokhar Dudaev about Russia and upcoming Russian war in Ukraine, made in1995, he was assassinated in 1996 by two laser guided missiles, Russian Air Force Su-24 and Su-25 flew the mission.

Ukraine will eventually confront Russia on irreconcilable conditions. (not in a peaceful way).

As long as Russism exists it will never refuse from it’s ambitions.

They want to hide it under the Slav excuse, like they did before, (allegedly to unite Slavic countries) take Ukraine, Belarus to strengthen up and then ……

Nobody wants to be in military alliance with Russia now. Not just in military, but also in economical, political and even trade relations. Cause they’ve been well studied. The same as World was fighting fascism it’s fighting against Russism now and this fight (war) will be escalating and it’s pointless for Russians to think that they can scare the World with their army, criminals and nuclear weapon – no they will not.

Everyone has already been scared, everyone’s already went through that Russian hell. And Russians will be put back in line of human civilization, either it will stop existing as a country (state) or they must get in line of the World community.

Russians are “naked” in front of the whole World right now. But they are not just externally “naked”, they are turned inside-out to their guts. The whole world have seen who are Russians and Russism and how dangerous it is for humanity.

They are killing civilians, civilians that don’t have any protection, completely unprotected….. they are killing from inaccessible distance, from air and artillery, wiping everything out of existence. Then they come to that city/place and start to rape and maraud. They take everything, up until dirty lingeries. Russism is scarier than fascism, Nazism, racism (scarier than) all misanthropic ideologies. The only nation in the world that believes in nothing, that is spiritless, immoral and retarded from the humanity evolution, and for a long time hopeless – are Russians.

Chechnya is only the pretext, but in fact this is the essence of Russian nation, nation which is sick with the Russism – misanthropy ideology. Due to uncontrolled aggression everything id destroyed in Chechnya. Everything is destroyed, starting from kindergarten ending with university. From thimble factories to heavy machinery, it’s all gone. Everything is ruined, everything is destroyed. But that’s not the main issue. The main thing is that they destroyed faith in humanity. Neither Russian people, especially nor their leadership, are not prepared to realise the amount of evil that they committed, committing and are going to commit. If Russians will not come to sense, at least for their sake, to save themselves from the tragedy of war, then they need to consider that war might come to their houses. It will come (war). And Russians cities will be burning, if Russians will not come to sense. Again, if Russia will not come to sense – their cities will burn, with a blue fire. (intensively) They are bringing themselves to their catastrophe with their own hands by encouraging criminality of their political leaders. Today’s Russia is a Carthage, that must be destroyed. Either it should become democracy ruled legal state, even though there’s no such thing as a democracy (not even close) at least they should comply with rights and laws, or this country must disappear from the history map, there is no middle (no compromise).

We, myself and all the Chechens are looking at all the evil that they are committing, at all those Russians, at those criminals, marauders, killers, we look at them with that squeamish disgust gaze. And nothing else.
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