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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 9th Oct 2022, 22:20
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Originally Posted by ORAC
While the cat’s away…..



Turkey is delivering NATO class armoured vehicles to Georgia

Russia views the transfer of modern weaponry to Georgia negatively and claims it threatens to destabilize the South Caucasus
Putin appears to not realize that he has done wonders to cause fragmentation of his "PutterReich" through the abuse of his subordinate states, destruction of the Russian military, and the global presentation of the quality of Russian strategic and tactical management, excellence in logistics, and the fine design of Russian military hardware. Eritrea seems to remain a sole impressed acolyte state. And North Korea, where at least their leader hasn't gone bald yet.


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Old 9th Oct 2022, 22:23
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Empires

Henra: Ho[w] do you get to have a small Empire? By starting with a big one...
That is the most aviation related matter that has been posted since late February...! And it alludes to military adventurism, and they have an airforce, they had an airforce, so it is on topic! Kudos!
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Old 9th Oct 2022, 22:54
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Things are getting grim when you have to use video from a Trump rally to back up your case.... I suspect the Russkies have no clue how most Americans view Trump's spewage. These Russkie talk shows are both terrifying and humorous. fdr, do Russians really believe this stuff?
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Old 9th Oct 2022, 23:27
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
Things are getting grim when you have to use video from a Trump rally to back up your case.... I suspect the Russkies have no clue how most Americans view Trump's spewage. These Russkie talk shows are both terrifying and humorous. fdr, do Russians really believe this stuff?


I have no idea, however, they are heading towards the following symptoms across the whole Gulag Archepelago

Have you suffered from:
  • Feeling uncomfortable before doing something or making a decision?
  • Trying to justify or rationalize a decision you've made or action you have taken?
  • Feeling embarrassed or ashamed about something you've done and trying to hide your actions from other people?
  • Experiencing guilt or regret about something you've done in the past?
  • Doing things because of social pressure or a fear of missing out (FOMO), even if it wasn't something you wanted to do?
  • Are there new Lada's lining the street of your village?
  • Is your undertaker driving a late model Range Rover?
  • Are the contents of your toilet looking better than the offerings at the supermarket?
  • Are there any 18-65 year old males in your Oblast?
  • Is the Mighty Russian Army absent from your state?
If so, you may be suffering from the Russian plague of Cognitive Dissonance, "do you believe Putin or your lyin' eyes?"

IMHO

The Russians I worked with were very happy to relocate their family and themselves to locations outside of Russia. One or two remained in Russia, and I hope their sons did not stay. One's daughter spoke 10 different languages, and was delightful. I hope she is in any other country that she could talk their language. She could go anywhere though, and speak like a native in a day or two. My Russian friends are very quiet now, and that is the way it has to be, they have a vindictive pathological government, and have had for centuries. They do have vodka though.

P.S.: While it is easy to demonise Russia, there are some true, visionary, patriots who understand the damage that the junta of Putin is imposing on Russia. The history of totalitarianism with the attendant violence towards it's own people have subjugated much of Russia and the client states to cattle, as the former Colonel in this video said to the police when they were picking up protesters against the incarceration of Alexi Navalny once again on 2nd February 2021. At least 100 Protesters were carted off for an intimate education of the benevolence of the Putin regime.

Navalny had more than 30% of the population in Moscow vote for him, in spite of Putin and his repugnant fascho-criminal regime. There are heroes within Russia, but they have to act in unison to bring down the man who has single handedly brought Russia to this time and place in their current condition.



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Old 9th Oct 2022, 23:46
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Originally Posted by ORAC
The TV tower in Moscow is burning and it looks like Barad-Dur.
Looks like it is the Oktod Tower, not the Shukhov Tower. That is deffo an own goal, there is just no way the Ukrainians got a semi truck up there by themselves. It may be the antenna coupler couldn't stand the BS any more and committed electrical seppuku. Hopefully it took Vladimir Solovyov off air... The tortology that he employs suggests that he never had a cat called Schrodinger!

Lightning strike? §25. 581, §25.1316? [barely aviation content]

IMHO

Moscow Octod Tower is a 258 metres (846 ft) tall lattice tower in Moscow, Russia. The Moscow Octod Tower is a lattice tower used for FM- and TV-transmission in an unusual octagonal cross section, it is one of the tallest Hyperboloid structures in the world. Construction work on Moscow Octod Tower started in 2004. It was completed in 2006. The owner of the tower is the broadcasting company "Octod". The company and tower are situated on the territory of the former "October radio center." The address is "Demyana Bednogo str. 24, Khoroshevo-Mnyovniki district," in the western part of Moscow. Components were made completely of steel at a machine-building plant in Syzran. The lower sections of the Moscow Octod Tower were assembled using a crane; the top was lowered by helicopter Mil Mi-26TM.


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Old 10th Oct 2022, 00:42
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Originally Posted by fdr


I have no idea, however, they are heading towards the following symptoms across the whole Gulag Archepelago

Have you suffered from:
  • Feeling uncomfortable before doing something or making a decision?
  • Trying to justify or rationalize a decision you've made or action you have taken?
  • Feeling embarrassed or ashamed about something you've done and trying to hide your actions from other people?
  • Experiencing guilt or regret about something you've done in the past?
  • Doing things because of social pressure or a fear of missing out (FOMO), even if it wasn't something you wanted to do?
  • Are there new Lada's lining the street of your village?
  • Is your undertaker driving a late model Range Rover?
  • Are the contents of your toilet looking better than the offerings at the supermarket?
  • Are there any 18-65 year old males in your Oblast?
  • Is the Mighty Russian Army absent from your state?
If so, you may be suffering from the Russian plague of Cognitive Dissonance, "do you believe Putin or your lyin' eyes?"

IMHO

The Russians I worked with were very happy to relocate their family and themselves to locations outside of Russia. One or two remained in Russia, and I hope their sons did not stay.
The propaganda war, aimed at russians.
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Old 10th Oct 2022, 03:02
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Originally Posted by fdr
Looks like it is the Oktod Tower, not the Shukhov Tower. That is deffo an own goal, there is just no way the Ukrainians got a semi truck up there by themselves. It may be the antenna coupler couldn't stand the BS any more and committed electrical seppuku. Hopefully it took Vladimir Solovyov off air... The tortology that he employs suggests that he never had a cat called Schrodinger!

Lightning strike? §25. 581, §25.1316? [barely aviation content]

IMHO



I don't know which tower was burning, but it certainly doesn't look like this one.
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Old 10th Oct 2022, 03:19
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Originally Posted by fdr


I have no idea, however, they are heading towards the following symptoms across the whole Gulag Archepelago

Have you suffered from:
  • Feeling uncomfortable before doing something or making a decision?
  • Trying to justify or rationalize a decision you've made or action you have taken?
  • Feeling embarrassed or ashamed about something you've done and trying to hide your actions from other people?
  • Experiencing guilt or regret about something you've done in the past?
  • Doing things because of social pressure or a fear of missing out (FOMO), even if it wasn't something you wanted to do?
  • Are there new Lada's lining the street of your village?
  • Is your undertaker driving a late model Range Rover?
  • Are the contents of your toilet looking better than the offerings at the supermarket?
  • Are there any 18-65 year old males in your Oblast?
  • Is the Mighty Russian Army absent from your state?
If so, you may be suffering from the Russian plague of Cognitive Dissonance, "do you believe Putin or your lyin' eyes?"

IMHO

The Russians I worked with were very happy to relocate their family and themselves to locations outside of Russia. One or two remained in Russia, and I hope their sons did not stay. One's daughter spoke 10 different languages, and was delightful. I hope she is in any other country that she could talk their language. She could go anywhere though, and speak like a native in a day or two. My Russian friends are very quiet now, and that is the way it has to be, they have a vindictive pathological government, and have had for centuries. They do have vodka though.

P.S.: While it is easy to demonise Russia, there are some true, visionary, patriots who understand the damage that the junta of Putin is imposing on Russia. The history of totalitarianism with the attendant violence towards it's own people have subjugated much of Russia and the client states to cattle, as the former Colonel in this video said to the police when they were picking up protesters against the incarceration of Alexi Navalny once again on 2nd February 2021. At least 100 Protesters were carted off for an intimate education of the benevolence of the Putin regime.

Navalny had more than 30% of the population in Moscow vote for him, in spite of Putin and his repugnant fascho-criminal regime. There are heroes within Russia, but they have to act in unison to bring down the man who has single handedly brought Russia to this time and place in their current condition.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1578893319119450112
Thanks for the response, It's amazing how quickly and (efficiently) Russia has distanced themselves from the rest of the world. As far as I can tell their only allies are North Korea and ????? Amazing. To so quickly destroy a national economy, show how powerless their military is, and how they violate basic human rights by targeting civilians and mass executing innocents. The barbarism shown is astounding. They will not be welcome in civilized society for .....

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Old 10th Oct 2022, 03:22
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Originally Posted by MarcK
I don't know which tower was burning, but it certainly doesn't look like this one.




There aren't that many hyperboloid lattice towers in Moscow. Most were done by the same architect. They all need their fuses replaced I guess.

The Moscow Octod Tower got it's name from the octogon shape ring frames... count them on Vlads birthday candle, One for each of his IQ points, 1,2,3,.... N=8







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Old 10th Oct 2022, 03:45
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Originally Posted by ORAC
The TV tower in Moscow is burning and it looks like Barad-Dur.


I didn't see that picture. I was thinking of this one. Are all of Moscow's TV towers subject to self-immolation?
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Old 10th Oct 2022, 05:00
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Originally Posted by MarcK
I didn't see that picture. I was thinking of this one. Are all of Moscow's TV towers subject to self-immolation?
Per Garth Brooks: "Friends in Sly Places"
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https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/seneste/he...af-stroemsvigt (in Danish):

The power supply, via sub-sea cable from Sweden to the Danish island of Bornholm was ruptured this morning. Sabotage ? If so, guess by whom...
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Originally Posted by Gargleblaster
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/seneste/he...af-stroemsvigt (in Danish):

The power supply, via sub-sea cable from Sweden to the Danish island of Bornholm was ruptured this morning. Sabotage ? If so, guess by whom...
if turns out to be sabotage against Danish power grid by the usual suspects, Stoltenberg has already announced NATOs stance towards attacks against critical infrastructure.This should be interesting.
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Google translation:

There is a power outage on the whole of Bornholm this Monday morning, and department manager Ole Westh from Trefor El-net Øst states that there is a break in the submarine cable to Sweden.

Bornholm's Energi og Forsyning, BEOF, is about to start electricity production at the power plant at Rønne Havn.

The power outage occurred approximately ten minutes after eight, and the entire island is covered, says Trefor, which is responsible for distributing electricity on Bornholm. "We are currently waiting for BEOF to start up the plant so that we can start supplying the island with electricity", says Ole Westh to DR Nyheder. According to Ole Westh, it is not yet known whether the break in the submarine cable is on land or in the sea between Sweden and Bornholm.

The message at 8.35 CET is that Trefor expects to have the power back around 9.50. Parts of Rønne have received power again.
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Old 10th Oct 2022, 08:42
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Originally Posted by MarcK
I didn't see that picture. I was thinking of this one. Are all of Moscow's TV towers subject to self-immolation?
That photo is from a couple of years ago.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
if turns out to be sabotage against Danish power grid by the usual suspects, Stoltenberg has already announced NATOs stance towards attacks against critical infrastructure.This should be interesting.
I would make it simple. Each such activity (if undoubtedly sabotage by Russia) = + 50 HIMARS/Lopard2/Abrams/... to Ukraine.
Next level: ATACMS.
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It is not yet made clear who is sabotaging whom; we are still kicking each other under the table.
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Old 10th Oct 2022, 09:15
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This has major implications, I would suggest Poland and the Baltic states may well take some sort of action - closing their borders being the least.

BREAKING: Russia and Belarus agreed to deploy a joint "regional group of troops"



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Never rains but it pours…

#BREAKING German cyber security chief to be sacked after alleged Russia ties

Germany is planning to fire Arne Schoenbohm, the head of its national cyber security agency, after reports he had contacts with Russian intelligence services, government sources told @AFP on Monday.
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