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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 28th Apr 2022, 09:58
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Sigh,,,,, Demented fools.

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Old 28th Apr 2022, 10:03
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Ukraine intend bringing war crime charges against captured pilots and two rocket launcher operators.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ng-2022-04-26/
If they had CBUs or were fragged to civilian targets, then it's about time. They can use the excuse they were only following orders, and that will then play out as it should. Gonna make for a lot of flight crew think to re-muster to drone pilot. Countries involved in projection of power are still obliged to comply with the law. The guy at the end of the line is not the one giving directions, so it brings up the uncomfortable position for everyone that is giving orders. Not all military law permits a special military operation person to refuse the order, but it would be interesting to see it play out in a court of law. Makes for a distraction to the Red team, that's worth the candle. It is just the beginning of the legal arguments.

That image from the article should be given some airtime.WAR CRIMES prosecutor is a mill stone around the neck of Russia. Something for a T-shirt perhaps?









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Old 28th Apr 2022, 10:15
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Surely they can get anymore insane?
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 11:11
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A Ukrainian Mig 29 fighter departing an airfield while under an artillery attack

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Old 28th Apr 2022, 11:24
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Re war crimes, well this pilot has admitted killing a civilian


Another one admitting hitting Civilian buildings

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Old 28th Apr 2022, 11:42
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
Still prefer sharks with lasers

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https://twitter.com/CovertShores/sta..._EKA0ACwcwSaZQ
US Navy have been doing it for years, They also use Sea Lions.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...-whales-165607
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 11:49
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Re war crimes, well this pilot has admitted killing a civilian

https://twitter.com/ZeroZhvk/status/1508127502396444679

Another one admitting hitting Civilian buildings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sH3NRh33cM
Do these broadcasts not contravene Article 13 (IIRC) of the Geneva Convention?
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 11:52
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Possibly, but would they if the Russians agreed to them? None of it looks forced, unlike the Uk guy reading... telling the west they were wrong
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 12:23
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Possibly, but would they if the Russians agreed to them? None of it looks forced, unlike the Uk guy reading... telling the west they were wrong
In my view is wrong for either side to contravene the Convention, we cannot be selective about it. We do not know what promises or threats were made prior to the broadcast.
Article 13 of the Third Geneva Convention explicitly states that prisoners of war must be protected at all times, particularly from public curiosity. It is duty of the detaining power to ensure these prisoners’ rights are properly respected from the moment they are captured.
It also puts the POWs at risk from their own government if they are repatriated
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 12:38
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In the circumstances of being accused of war crimes, the ICRC deems such photography acceptable in order to bring the abuse to public attention.

https://fullfact.org/law/prisoners-w...n-photographs/
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 12:53
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"Boris One" is now being used for tanking close to the Ukrainian border:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=43c6f9
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 13:33
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
"Boris One" is now being used for tanking close to the Ukrainian border:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=43c6f9
Grateful for the aviation content.
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 13:54
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
"Boris One" is now being used for tanking close to the Ukrainian border:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=43c6f9
A tanker being used for tanking then. What's your point?
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 14:09
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Biden is waking up to the threat of drone warfare and the USA are working to address the problem, The Ukraine has clearly shown that the drone has come of age in a spectacular fashion, from sniping, targeting and delivering weapons onto the enemy.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...at-to-homeland
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 14:32
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Bundestag approves transfer of heavy weapons to Ukraine

The resolution passed with 586 votes in favour, 100 against and seven abstentions: votes against came from the far-left Die Linke and far-right AfD.

It really surprises me that Scholz was absent for the vote - on his way to Japan. He seems to have a burning desire to stay as uninvolved as possible.
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 14:55
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Apparently the British have intel that Putin is about to declare war on victory day.
Just as a thought, wouldn't it be a perfect timing for the west to give quarantees to Ukraine that if a war is declared it will be assisted.

Yes, I know, pretty much impossible due to umph amount of reasons, but just a thought.
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 15:00
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Tanker AND trooper

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A tanker being used for tanking then. What's your point?
I spotted Boris one apparently trooping AKT-BZZ just last week, and now back on the towline just west of WAW. VFM for the UK taxpayer?
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 15:19
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Story is that just recently a railway bridge the russkies used to transport weapons from Crimea to Melitopol has committed suicide.

It is horrible what special military operation does to the mental health of railway bridges.

https://t.me/Bratchuk_Sergey/10886
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 15:23
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Apparently the British have intel that Putin is about to declare war on victory day.
Just as a thought, wouldn't it be a perfect timing for the west to give quarantees to Ukraine that if a war is declared it will be assisted.

Yes, I know, pretty much impossible due to umph amount of reasons, but just a thought.
Mobilisation carries enormous risks for Putin - 1 million+ people under arms in a country with all its pressures, pinch points and fault lines. What could possibly go wrong?

Maybe related to this, but Biden is pushing for a $33billion aid package for Ukraine.

Still can't understand all the discussion regarding Russian and the UN. This path has been so well trodden its turned into a trench.
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 16:00
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To do that he will be admitting to the public that the standing army he has been exalting all of these years is but a fantasy and that the losses are larger than they have been letting on, I read the USA was saying in men and material he has lost nearly 25% of the standing forces available, the fact they are returning damaged vehicles back to Russia to repair has to be an indication of the state of play with their reserves, if its easier to patched up a damaged tank than replace it, those in storage must be bad.

It's going to be a hell of a shock to the Russian public to learn their sons are being fed into the meat grinder to replace those losses they have sustained and even with general mobilisation, they are going to need to equip, train (even basically) and transport them to the front, top that off with the sh*t supply lines that are struggling to support the army at the moment, a bunch of extra mouths to feed and supply may hopefully cause those supply lines to collapse.

All the turkeys on Russian news spouting the "I think we are already in WW3 now, and it's NATO's fault" are obviously following the script to allow Putin to announce the war and blame the West..

What Ben Wallace has said

https://www.thenationalnews.com/worl...re-war-in-may/
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