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Old 29th Apr 2022, 11:28
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Film of Ukranian attacks on vehicles in the Donbas, at abour 50 seconds ish, it looks like they struck an airfield with artillery.

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Film of Ukranian attacks on vehicles in the Donbas, at abour 50 seconds ish, it looks like they struck an airfield with artillery.
A compilation of attacks from the past 6 weeks - their greatest hits...
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
the Hi-Lux with the Matra F2 pod on top was something spectacular! (Edit - although i think the one in the poster is a Russian pod)

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Good to see the Russians are taking care of their precious equipment, such as this 1L219 counter-battery radar system





Ohhh dear never mind, such a shame......Not

Meanwhile on the Ukrainian side, the supplies keep rolling in..

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Good to see the Russians are taking care of their precious equipment, such as this 1L219 counter-battery radar system

Ohhh dear never mind, such a shame......Not
NutLoose, you might want to give the Russian combat engineers some credit for their innovative way of preventing a bridge collapse!
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Old 29th Apr 2022, 12:18
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You really need to read this as to the forced mobilisation of the Ukrainian in the donbass area, its chilling reading, I've added a couple of excerpts

https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/04/...cupied-donbas/

According to both Ukrainian and pro-Russian sources, the Donbas locals have been generally used for the so-called “intelligence by battle” — a Soviet-era tactic of throwing the soldiers into battle without any intelligence in order to find out where the defenses may be weaker.

Another common Russian practice of usage of the forcefully conscripted is committing them to attack fortified Ukrainian positions over and over in order to exhaust the defenders so that the regular Russian troops could later face less resistance trying to storm the positions.Both Russian “practices” lead to disproportionally high casualty rate among the forcibly mobilized Ukrainians of the Donbas. In this way, Russia has been trying to spare its own troops by de-facto eliminating the mobilized locals.

On the other hand, the forcibly mobilized participate in Russia’s ongoing genocide of Ukrainians not only with their own deaths, but also contributing to the destruction of Ukrainian settlements and killing their fellow Ukrainians.
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Old 29th Apr 2022, 12:25
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Originally Posted by Davef68
the Hi-Lux with the Matra F2 pod on top was something spectacular! (Edit - although i think the one in the poster is a Russian pod)

should be a Renault, non?
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
You really need to read this as to the forced mobilisation of the Ukrainian in the donbass area, its chilling reading, I've added a couple of excerpts

https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/04/...cupied-donbas/
While that's a disturbing report, how objective is that source?
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Old 29th Apr 2022, 12:28
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
NutLoose, you might want to give the Russian combat engineers some credit for their innovative way of preventing a bridge collapse!


Hey, it could be the engineers pushback from being forced to go somewhere they don't wanna go. The boys are not amused by Vlad the Impalers discretionary war that is smoking their hides.
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Old 29th Apr 2022, 12:43
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
While that's a disturbing report, how objective is that source?
If it is true, it is a specific war crime. Not that there is a shortage of crimes to choose from. Not only that it is prohibited by the Russian Military Manual (1990)

Russian Federation
Under the Russian Federation’s Military Manual (1990), it is prohibited as a method of warfare “to compel persons belonging to the enemy party to participate in hostilities against their country”.
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The Russian Federation’s Regulations on the Application of IHL (2001) states with regard to the behaviour of forces in occupied territory: “It is prohibited to compel the population in the occupied territory to serve in the armed or auxiliary forces of the occupying power.”


IHL Rule 95 Forced Labor
Section B. Compelling persons to serve in the forces of a hostile power


Hague Regulations (1899)
Article 44 “Any compulsion of the population of occupied territory to take part in military operations against its own country is prohibited.”

Article 52 Neither requisitions in kind nor services can be demanded from … inhabitants except for the needs of the army of occupation. They must be in proportion to the resources of the country, and of such a nature as not to involve the population in the obligation of taking part in military operations against their country

Hague Regulations (1907)
Article 23(h) of the 1907 Hague Regulations provides: “A belligerent is likewise forbidden to compel the nationals of the hostile party to take part in the operations of war directed against their own country, even if they were in the belligerent’s service before the commencement of the war.”

Article 52 of the 1907 Hague Regulations provides:
Requisitions in kind and services shall not be demanded from … inhabitants except for the needs of the army of occupation. They shall be in proportion to the resources of the country, and of such a nature as not to involve the inhabitants in the obligation of taking part in military operations against their own country.

Geneva Convention IV
Article 51, first paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “The Occupying Power may not compel protected persons to serve in its armed or auxiliary forces. No pressure or propaganda which aims at securing voluntary enlistment is permitted.”

Geneva Conventions III and IV
Article 130 of the 1949 Geneva Convention III and Article 147 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provide that compelling a prisoner of war or a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile power is a grave breach of these instruments.

ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(a)(v) and (b)(xv) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “[c]ompelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile power” and “[c]ompelling the nationals of the hostile party to take part in the operations of war directed against their own country, even if they were in the belligerent’s service before the commencement of the war” constitute war crimes in international armed conflicts.

ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind (1991)
According to Article 22(2)(a) of the 1991 ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind, “compelling a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power” is considered as an exceptionally serious war crime and as a serious violation of the principles and rules of international law applicable in armed conflict.


ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind (1996)
Under Article 20(a)(v) of the 1996 ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind, “[c]ompelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power” constitutes a war crime.

UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15
The UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15 establishes panels with exclusive jurisdiction over serious criminal offences, including war crimes. According to Section 6(1)(a)(v) and (b)(xv), “[c]ompelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile power” and “[c]ompelling the nationals of the hostile party to take part in the operations of war directed against their own country, even if they were in the belligerent’s service before the commencement of the war” constitute war crimes in international armed conflicts.




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Another Russian PR campaign fail? filming and releasing it of your own troops getting shot.?

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For the times they are a 'changing:


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Originally Posted by Imagegear
For the times they are a 'changing:

http://<blockquote class="twitter-tw...f-8"></script>

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That's spooky,
Is he going to change the name of the Kremlin to Wolfschanze?
  • I mean, he has the shake of the hand thing going on;
  • He attacked across Ukraine, (in reverse direction) silly lad;
  • He attacked and forgot about the weather;
  • He took direct command from the Military as he was a brilliant [KGB spook/ Corporal/ etc];
  • He committed genocide, and war crimes;
  • He reads chicken entrails or tarot cards or something, to do with numerology;
  • Is Putin a painter?
  • Is Putin a vegetarian?
Spooky. lots of material for SNL or Eddie Izzard.

Hopefully the day to day activity includes sacking the President, but the Russian Constitution is pretty miserable in that score, but not impossible.
Is he going to send himself off to Lefortovo if he gets knocked on his butt? That would be the "cheer heard around the world".

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Another Russian PR campaign fail? filming and releasing it of your own troops getting shot.?

https://twitter.com/BMUSTINILDH/stat...80721108045824
As much as the invasion angers us, it is something to see young contract soldiers trying to help their companion. Doesn't make up for the murder and torture but it does add some humanity to the fray. Now if they were home in Russia, then the unpleasantness would not be such an issue. As always, the troops are shooting at each other, instead of the madmen that made this happen.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
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TASS has listed the aircrafts participating in the Victory day parade in Moscow.
The usual suspects are there, mostly everything is Soviet era except for the Su57. What is highlighted in the article is the patriotic act of MiG29's:
"For the first time, eight MiG-29SMT fighters will fly over Red Square in flight order in the form of the letter "Z" in support of Russian servicemen - participants in a special military operation in Ukraine," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

The Armata tank is supposed to present itself too. In 2015 it stalled and had to be towed away, although even that didn't seem to work out.

So, despite the rumours of Putin having the V-Day parade in Mariupol he lags the courage and sticks to the Red Square.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14512145
Me waiting to see if someone got a MANPAD near Moscow . . . .





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Old 29th Apr 2022, 17:03
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Looks like another normal day south and west of Ukraine on Flightradar 24 right now. One Global Hawk (FORTE 10) out of Sicily stooging around in the middle of the Black Sea, an RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint cruising the Romanian/Ukraine border (on way home probs), and an E3A Sentry AWACS doing circuits less than 100kms from the Polish/Ukraine border, not to mention the US C-130 that just took off in Romania heading northwest. They are all there in plain sight, out and proud with transponders on.

And this is just what you can see by randomly floating your cursor over plane symbols. Nothing unusual, I suppose, but it is real time.




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Old 29th Apr 2022, 17:13
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Brimstone Capabilities

Anti-ship Brimstone can certainly sink a fast inshore attack craft, even without using a warhead. (Trials were done a few years ago.) In the development programmes, ground launch comes before air launch, though using unprepared launch sites has probably required some further work.
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Originally Posted by Imagegear
For the times they are a 'changing:

http://<blockquote class="twitter-tw...f-8"></script>

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This reminds me of Hitler moving decimated divisions around as if they were still fully functional on his maps, as the Third Reich crumbled around him and Berlin… one can only hope he follows suite and ends up the same.
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Originally Posted by Richard W
Brimstone Capabilities

Anti-ship Brimstone can certainly sink a fast inshore attack craft, even without using a warhead. (Trials were done a few years ago.) In the development programmes, ground launch comes before air launch, though using unprepared launch sites has probably required some further work.

The Drive has an article on them and the heading picture looks like they are mounted on a simple frame bolted to a deck, something that should be easy to knock up and fit to a vehicle.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...e-within-weeks



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Old 29th Apr 2022, 18:23
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Ukrainian forces have liberated village of Ruska Lovoda close to Kharkiv. This is one of the biggest suburbs of Kharkiv and also means that Ukraine once again holds the Kharkiv - Belgorod highway.

This gives hope that the tide is turning.

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