Is Ukraine about to have a war?

[NutLoose]

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[MAINJAFAD]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

Three? stingers into an SU 25 and it’s still flying…


https://twitter.com/Adel24710017/sta...45070370226186

Video game not real!!!!

[NutLoose]

Thanks took it down, hence the question mark as I doubted it.

[MJ89]

Originally Posted by Ninthace

Just two Hinds, unsupported. That seems frightfully brave.
Do we know how many the UAF started with and how they have left.

IF not a false flag,
Slava ukraine

[Mariner9]

Originally Posted by MJ89

IF not a false flag,
Slava ukraine

Indeed. And very damning on Russian air defence capabilities. Going forward, it may well give rise to itchy trigger fingers in Russia shooting down some of their own returning aircraft.

[NutLoose]

Originally Posted by Mariner9

Indeed. And very damning on Russian air defence capabilities. Going forward, it may well give rise to itchy trigger fingers in Russia shooting down some of their own returning aircraft.

One could hope, they have already managed it in Country.

[Addlepate]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

I cannot be the only one wondering whether the attack being attributed to Ukraine in Belgorod, Russia isn’t a Russian false flag attack on itself as a pretext to launch another (possibly even nuclear) attack on Ukraine in the name of defending “Russian national security”.

Ukrainian defence officials have been 'neither confirming or denying' responsibility for the Belgorod attack due to lack of information, and the latest from AP is that the secretary of the Ukrainian security council has now said "For some reason [the Russians] say that we did it, but according to our information this does not correspond to reality" on national television.

[Beamr]

Originally Posted by Mariner9

Indeed. And very damning on Russian air defence capabilities. .

Those capabilities are in the same level as everything else appears to be with the Russian military, the soviet era level. Mathias Rust verifies.

[NutLoose]

So as mentioned before “attacks on Russia” were a premise to use nuclear weapons etc and is the pull back from Kyiv related to the threat, though even Putin couldn’t be that stupid, however if his health is suspect…

[GlobalNav]

Originally Posted by Beamr

Those capabilities are in the same level as everything else appears to be with the Russian military, the soviet era level. Mathias Rust verifies.

In keeping with the “rumor” nature of this forum, I suppose it’s ok to speculate - does the Russian military lack capability, decent equipment, leadership or fighting character?

Ukraine has demonstrated all four, so let’s keep them equipped with materiel! They, too, must have suffered losses.

[Beamr]

Originally Posted by GlobalNav

In keeping with the “rumor” nature of this forum, I suppose it’s ok to speculate - does the Russian military lack capability, decent equipment, leadership or fighting character?

.

I like your approach, so to speculate a bit for fun,
- they tried to enter the battlefield on a 60km long column and got stuck there for more than a week
- their equipment is in some cases from the 19th century and even the newer equipment keeps breaking up due to lack of maintenance
- 7 generals have died, two discharged and at least in one case a colonel was run over with a tank by his own troops due to lack of leadership
- seriously classified equipment is abandoned unharmed to the battlefield meaning that the US gets the latest russian EW kit for studies.

I'd speculate that its 4/4 result

[MightyGem]

Originally Posted by macmp419

That’s one way of doing it

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...41451164782595

Perfectly safe.

[macmp419]

Originally Posted by MightyGem

Perfectly safe.

As far from my area of expertise as you could get, but the nonchalant way they are being moved by operators with hands in pockets tells me you are correct.

You still would not catch me trying it though 🤪

[NutLoose]

Jesus, everyone should watch this… there is no words that even come close.

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Originally Posted by Addlepate

Ukrainian defence officials have been 'neither confirming or denying' responsibility for the Belgorod attack due to lack of information, and the latest from AP is that the secretary of the Ukrainian security council has now said "For some reason [the Russians] say that we did it, but according to our information this does not correspond to reality" on national television.

The best of both worlds - you get to make the hit but then put the blame on the Russians

[NutLoose]

Originally Posted by macmp419

As far from my area of expertise as you could get, but the nonchalant way they are being moved by operators with hands in pockets tells me you are correct.

You still would not catch me trying it though 🤪

They are designed for vehicles like tanks, so the weight of a person will not set them off

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by Beamr

- their equipment is in some cases from the 19th century

That's very hard to believe - can you give any examples ?

[SnowFella]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

They are designed for vehicles like tanks, so the weight of a person will not set them off

Unless they have had anti-tamper devices fitted that is. Kick one of them and you will rather rapidly find yourself part of the scenery.

[tartare]

Details on the Hind `raid' on Belgorod are getting murkier.
Ukraine first neither confirming nor denying - and now saying it wasn't them.
Much chatter relating to a false flag pretext - and linked to Russian withdrawals around Kiev.

[HOVIS]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

Jesus, everyone should watch this… there is no words that even come close.

https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/sta...85789404459011

BBC report now showing a highway with burnt bodies of civilians strewn across the road. Utterly despicable!