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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 00:14
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First Starstreak kill?

I’ll just post the video and you make of it what you will. Do you see the darts just before impact?

https://fb.watch/c7jC85ZDXp/
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Originally Posted by tonker
I’ll just post the video and you make of it what you will. Do you see the darts just before impact?

https://fb.watch/c7jC85ZDXp/
Yep, I was thinking that as well. Several UK Newspapers claiming that MOD sources are confirming the claim.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2049409.html
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Close up view…

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Putting the U.K. in UKraine..
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 05:10
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
That's very hard to believe - can you give any examples ?
yes sir, see post 3790

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Originally Posted by Beamr
yes sir, see post 3790
I think you're getting your 19th and 20th centuries mixed up ...
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 07:02
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
I think you're getting your 19th and 20th centuries mixed up ...
not really, the Mosin-Nagant M91/30 was designed in 1891..
the Russian army used it from 1891 till 1917, and soviet army till the 60's. Must say that I had no idea they had saved the stocks and are really using them in 2022.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
not really, the Mosin-Nagant M91/30 was designed in 1891..
DRUK is besides his usual self. I just managed to research that with Bing.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 07:19
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent
DRUK is besides his usual self. I just managed to research that with Bing.
and the maxim that has been spotted on a tuk tuk was 1884
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DRUK stands corrected.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 08:32
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I see that "UK Cabinet sources" are encouraging Ukrainians to "fight on and not cut a deal"

Surely this should be left to the Ukrainian Govt. They and the Russian are the only people who can decide what and what is not acceptable to end this conflict?

Not someone cheering them on from the cheap seats.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 08:35
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‘Cheap seats’ is a cheap shot, aimed at someone supplying super modern weapons, like repainted white vans for ambulances.
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
‘Cheap seats’ is a cheap shot, aimed at someone supplying super modern weapons, like repainted white vans for ambulances.
and of course welcoming refugees with open arms as long as they can provide utility bills with proof of address, translated into English and certified as a "true copy".................
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 08:42
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Originally Posted by rattman
and the maxim that has been spotted on a tuk tuk was 1884
Hadn't seen that yet, thanks for the hint!
So they've already used maxims on tuk tuks, M91/30's and AN-2 biplanes, whats next, an ironclad in the black sea?



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Originally Posted by Beamr
Hadn't seen that yet, thanks for the hint!
So they've already used maxims on tuk tuks, M91/30's and AN-2 biplanes, whats next, an ironclad in the black sea?
You forgot about the armored train

Assuming we can take a guess as to why Object 279 was taken out for a test run
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Originally Posted by rattman
You forgot about the armored train

Assuming we can take a guess as to why Object 279 was taken out for a test run
Ah yes, the armored train, forgot that.
It is only reasonable to fire up the Object 279's as the Ukrainian spring is coming and it does have double the tracks so there is hope it will not get stuck in the mud.

Imagine going to a battle in a C47, equipped with Lee-Enfields, supported by Vickers guns and a Railway Howitzer Mk I. Rather demoralizing for the troops.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 09:18
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
and of course welcoming refugees with open arms as long as they can provide utility bills with proof of address, translated into English and certified as a "true copy".................
Surely due precaution is required to eliminate the people smugglers and visiting red sparrows that are most definitely waiting to make a move ?
You are most welcome to keep refugees in the eu until checked and then, by all means we can take more. I am aware that the eu is rather preoccupied with energy problems of its own making and France with a lack of intelligence, but now sacked.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Beamr
not really, the Mosin-Nagant M91/30 was designed in 1891..
the Russian army used it from 1891 till 1917, and soviet army till the 60's. Must say that I had no idea they had saved the stocks and are really using them in 2022.
There are still crates of MN's in stores all across Russia.......despite many of the old reserve stocks being sold off to westerners during the past couple of decades.
They also still have stores full of 1000's of captured German K98k's and other captured German kit as well as unused lend-lease equipment, although, I think most of the US lend-lease stuff has been sold off now. I know there were a lot of NOS Harley WLA parts that came out of Russia back in the late 90's, as well as lots of Thompson SMG parts, from the crates of unissued Thompson SMG's from lend-lease discovered in arms stores in Russia in the 90's.
One of the K98k's I own is one that came out of Russian storage in the late 90's/early 2000's.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 09:45
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Thanks, very interesting. Although the usefulness of all that WW2 era kit is next to nothing unless someone decides to arm millions of men with anything at hand and have them walk en masse to the front line. And that would not work anyway.

It is somewhat puzzling that they've decided not to use the most produced assault weapon in the world, the AK-47, but instead have provided the Donbass troops with the M91's and maxims. I've no idea what should be thought of it.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 10:09
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Thanks, very interesting. Although the usefulness of all that WW2 era kit is next to nothing unless someone decides to arm millions of men with anything at hand and have them walk en masse to the front line. And that would not work anyway.

It is somewhat puzzling that they've decided not to use the most produced assault weapon in the world, the AK-47, but instead have provided the Donbass troops with the M91's and maxims. I've no idea what should be thought of it.
I think that's exactly why they never scrapped any of it (and refurbished millions of captured German kit after WW2) as it was to be able to hand every man & women (and most likely a child) in USSR as was, a rifle should that need arise.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 10:29
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As I see it, the 7.62 M1930 with telescopic sight is deployed as an effective sniper rifle, despite its age. A completely different beast to an AK47/AK72, and certainly cheaper than a Dragunov SVD-63.

Article here ... https://min.news/en/military/ea4e6b5...b0b6fb35c.html
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