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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 5th Apr 2022, 18:47
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Balls of steel or what, a lone Ukrainian tank taking on a Russian armoured column.

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Originally Posted by Doors Off
Could be a buddy lase? Not sure if Stugna is capable of that. As for scatter/overspill/underspill etc, Iím pretty sure that the beam dispersal would be minimal over those ranges. Add in the fact that the 52 is NOE, it would make it slightly more challenging for said LWRís to ID and warn. I think that crew wishes they had a Roof Mounted sight and not a Glass Jaw sensor.
In addition, it has always been fairly standard practice with ATGMs, aim off until the last few seconds, prevents the smoke trail from hiding the target.
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Old 5th Apr 2022, 22:35
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Originally Posted by Usertim
Not big in the scheme of things but this video of a Stugna ATGM team engaging is very enlightening , and has good subtitles.

( Buratino is a TOS launch vehicle)
Fascinating stuff. Interesting personal interactions, they seem more like a bunch of engineers discussing a technical problem than what I would expect of soldiers in combat. (speaking as someone who has never been in combat)(and old too)

Note the guy at time 2:58 with the Union Jack on his sleeve.
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The folly of the Kyiv part of Russian strategy. This is what you get when someone insists on 'reinforcing failure' - massed shredded Russian vehicles at Hostomel airport.

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Old 5th Apr 2022, 23:07
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I don’t know if these are factual, they seem far fetched.. the second one about NATO members is from a Russian site BTW.

https://twitter.com/Luckyabundance7/status/1511459893710102528

https://www.army.mil/article/248323/landcom_commander_lt_gen_cloutier_and_acting_deputy_for_the_ ukrainian_land_forces_major_general_oleksandr_holodniuk_visi t_ipsc



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There IS NO border, simply one in the Russians minds, it is all Ukraine, letís get that straight.
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Old 6th Apr 2022, 00:17
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Talk of the Generalís capture may be premature as he has denied it, as has NATO. According to them, he is still running the shop in Izmir.
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Old 6th Apr 2022, 00:39
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Originally Posted by Rockie_Rapier

Note the guy at time 2:58 with the Union Jack on his sleeve.
He is just wearing a UK smock.
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
Talk of the Generalís capture may be premature as he has denied it, as has NATO. According to them, he is still running the shop in Izmir.
I await with baited breath a cable (or text) to be sent by the General, proclaiming that The reports of my capture are greatly exaggerated
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Old 6th Apr 2022, 01:13
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Video proof of the shooting at a cyclist in Bucha

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/w...imes&smtyp=cur
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Originally Posted by Rockie_Rapier
Fascinating stuff. Interesting personal interactions, they seem more like a bunch of engineers discussing a technical problem than what I would expect of soldiers in combat. (speaking as someone who has never been in combat)(and old too)

Note the guy at time 2:58 with the Union Jack on his sleeve.
As TJEE has stated, fitted to the uniform during manufacture and either bought on-line or given to Ukraine.

Shows the Ukrainians as a whole do have a clue what they are doing, though the first engagement failed as the Missile reload team were far too keen and had not been full briefed on the system (like don't reload until the operator tells them).
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Talk of the General’s capture may be premature as he has denied it, as has NATO. According to them, he is still running the shop in Izmir.
Yes, the Boss of NATO Land Forces is really NOT going to be trapped on the Front Line.
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I totally agree, any country involved in suspected war crimes should lose their right to veto or the system should be changed to a majority decision.
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True of any number of nations who have been on that council. I have seen similar statements made about, for example, Saudi Arabia (in the past).
Linda Thomas-Greenfield, the U.S. ambassador to the UN, called for Russia to be suspended from the UN’s Human Rights Council, saying its inclusion “hurts the council’s credibility” and is “just plain wrong.”
This seems to me 'more of the same' as regards political rhetoric, which is one of the main functions of the UN.
And as to current wars, Ukraine and Russia are not alone.
(If any of you have been watching Ethiopia for the last year, there is some heart rending stuff going on there, but it doesn't seem to hit the news cycle as often).
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Finland to submit a NATO membership proposal to their Government mid April.

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Good for Finland, going about the process deliberately and openly. Whatever the vote, this will surely send a message to the average Russian that Putin’s policy is backfiring disastrously and actually nourishing NATO.
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