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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 14th Mar 2022, 08:08
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Germany chooses F-35

Various agencies reporting that Germany is now negotiating to purchase F-35s.

Just three years ago Berlin said the type had been rejected from consideration ...
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 08:26
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I was literally just giving consideration as to how the Russians behave when their offensive becomes bogged down, utterly barbaric and immoral is probably the most accurate phrase. I was reminded of how they disguised anti-personnel bombs as childrens toys in Afghanistan, well guess what….

Bombs Disguised as Toys Found in Mariupol

Yes I know, it could be Ukrainian PsyOps - in fact I honestly hope it is.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 08:36
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The strike on the base housing foreign fighters just by the Polish border was a rare military and propaganda success for Russia, and showed a measure of intelligence gathering and execution. That said is does beggar belief somewhat that these personnel were housed, apparently en masse, in a base previously used to train the Ukrainians with western weapons, the BBC having reported there some time back.

Hopefully lessons have been learnt and ar5es kicked to ensure this was a one-off.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 08:45
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Russian Airborne VDV units being airdropped by a Russian Helicopter in kharkiv, Reportedly all were killed. #UkraineRussianWar#RussiaUkraine#Ukraine#Russia#UkraineWar
Jumping from a helo flying at what, 5 or 6 thousand feet, in broad daylight and apparently in full sight of opposing ground forces? I bet most of them were dead before they hit the ground.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 09:05
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Originally Posted by Fonsini
I was literally just giving consideration as to how the Russians behave when their offensive becomes bogged down, utterly barbaric and immoral is probably the most accurate phrase. I was reminded of how they disguised anti-personnel bombs as childrens toys in Afghanistan, well guess what….

Bombs Disguised as Toys Found in Mariupol

Yes I know, it could be Ukrainian PsyOps - in fact I honestly hope it is.
Have a British friend here in Sydney who used to work for the UK Foreign Office.
Of all countries he dealt with - he despised the Russian diplomats the most.
"They lie, lie some more, and just when you think they've finished lying, they'll lie again," he said once.
Described them as absolute brutes underneath it all.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 09:50
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Originally Posted by tartare
Have a British friend here in Sydney who used to work for the UK Foreign Office.
Of all countries he dealt with - he despised the Russian diplomats the most.
"They lie, lie some more, and just when you think they've finished lying, they'll lie again," he said once.
Described them as absolute brutes underneath it all.
That describes politicians and diplomats the world over I think. It's just that the Russians are willing to tell the MOST outrageous porkies whilst, probably, not expecting anyone to believe tham.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 10:09
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Jumping from a helo flying at what, 5 or 6 thousand feet, in broad daylight and apparently in full sight of opposing ground forces? I bet most of them were dead before they hit the ground.
Why dropping under such unfavourable circumstances ? Why wasn't the helo shot down as it would presumably have been flying straight and level for a short period at least, over troops who one would have expected to have manpads;?
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 10:23
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Why dropping under such unfavourable circumstances ? Why wasn't the helo shot down as it would presumably have been flying straight and level for a short period at least, over troops who one would have expected to have manpads;?
If there are 2000 stingers in Ukraine (depending on the sources that should be in the ball park) and there are 200000 troops, it means one stinger per 100 soldiers. They've already consumed some hundreds of Stingers so the ratio is lower. In essence that says one stinger for a company size group. Most probably the Stingers aren't spread out very evenly.
Not everybody ther carries a Stinger or equivalent manpad with them, so not every AC gets shot at.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 10:45
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So they have not been successful in occupying 1 country so want to try it with 5 more? They're off their rocker. And how will they get to Sweden?
This.
I spilled my coffee over this 'News'.
Can't get ahold of Ukraine with their 100 Fighter Aircraft and 200.000 troops and now wants to take on NATO/Sweden/Finland with 4000 Fighter Aircraft and 3Mio troops.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 11:46
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Not sure it will buff out.

"Su 25 survives MANPAD hit"

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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:10
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...... possibly accompanied by an associated Eng Chip Caution light............
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:12
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And the Pilot’s Seat may need reupholstering!
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:13
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Russia is apparently using the nuclear power station as a base for their equipment, makes sense because the Ukrainians will not attack it for fear of the results.

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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:19
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Not seen these shoot downs before but cannot see any verification.




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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:25
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I wonder if the damaged Su25 was this one purported to be hit by a manpad but continues to drop its ordnance. The damage on that one being towed reminds me of the Jag in the Gulf War.

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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:32
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Not seen these shoot downs before but cannot see any verification.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1499687200954404864
Looks like a flight simulation to me. Possibly DCS. And very easy to be taken in by this stuff now, beware!
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:34
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Not seen these shoot downs before but cannot see any verification.
That top one looks like more DCS fakery. The aircraft hit explodes in almost exactly the same way every time.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:42
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Even I can spot a fake, that is the Grenfell Tower.

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Old 14th Mar 2022, 12:49
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Re the defusing the bomb with water, I said I believed they came off a downed fighter, I have found the link and you can see the one in the film that they defused.


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