Emirates Application 2022
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On the T7 side, no captain has been or will be recalled…We all had a random medical issue once in our career and were considered ´bad apples‘...
Don‘t miss anything. Just maybe the (mostly) nice colleagues and the car home after work.
So glad I‘m out actually. The one thing you‘ll never get in EK is Respect. Something I do get now.
Don‘t miss anything. Just maybe the (mostly) nice colleagues and the car home after work.
So glad I‘m out actually. The one thing you‘ll never get in EK is Respect. Something I do get now.
where are you now if I may ask?
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It took them almost three months to assess my HireVue "interview" and return with positive feedback. Therefore be patient, folks; it takes really long to progress to the next stage.
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To anyone thinking of joining, just make sure you are aware of the sick leave policy that changed during the pandemic. It now leaves pilots much more vulnerable to losing their job following periods of long term sickness.
With the old system, if one was off with cancer (for example) and got their medical back, the period of a years allowable long term sick leave was reset. Now you have a years worth of long term sick leave to last your full employment period at EK.
With the old system, if one was off with cancer (for example) and got their medical back, the period of a years allowable long term sick leave was reset. Now you have a years worth of long term sick leave to last your full employment period at EK.
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To anyone thinking of joining, just make sure you are aware of the sick leave policy that changed during the pandemic. It now leaves pilots much more vulnerable to losing their job following periods of long term sickness.
With the old system, if one was off with cancer (for example) and got their medical back, the period of a years allowable long term sick leave was reset. Now you have a years worth of long term sick leave to last your full employment period at EK.
With the old system, if one was off with cancer (for example) and got their medical back, the period of a years allowable long term sick leave was reset. Now you have a years worth of long term sick leave to last your full employment period at EK.
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friend of mine got invited to a performance review where he was presented his fuel deceisions and also a review of some monitored items like when to set flaps and gear, landing parameters (for e.g so called hard landing categorie 1/2/3 a not documented parameter) and many more with some tendencies where he should improve
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friend of mine got invited to a performance review where he was presented his fuel deceisions and also a review of some monitored items like when to set flaps and gear, landing parameters (for e.g so called hard landing categorie 1/2/3 a not documented parameter) and many more with some tendencies where he should improve
I have yet to hear of a EK pilot being called into the office for configuring early or never flying a CDA.
To all new joiners - make sure you are aware of the revised sick policy, since we are much more vulnerable now than we used to be, should we encounter long term sickness.
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If so many areas of concern were raised, your friend got off lightly with just a performance review! We are paid to operate a jet to a series of SOPs and if you go outside of what is expected, one has to accept the consequences.
I have yet to hear of a EK pilot being called into the office for configuring early or never flying a CDA.
To all new joiners - make sure you are aware of the revised sick policy, since we are much more vulnerable now than we used to be, should we encounter long term sickness.
I have yet to hear of a EK pilot being called into the office for configuring early or never flying a CDA.
To all new joiners - make sure you are aware of the revised sick policy, since we are much more vulnerable now than we used to be, should we encounter long term sickness.
very typical EK employee. How can you possibly know everything want happens along the way what happens to nearly 3500 pilots in this company. Just because you don’t know, haven’t heard or seen, does not mean it exists or does not happen.
this monitoring Programm exists since a very long time, and has in the earlier days only raised issues on real threats to a performance, recently this (coming in parallel with the new sick regulations) is becoming more and more a tool to sort out the so called “bad apples”, raised to a completely unrealistic and insane level.
by the way, I have heard about it before, and finally I got details.
As a commander it will not affect you, as fo aspiring command it will and it does as the decision of how much the acceptable margin is, done from behind a desk and with no real life input based how it should be from the desk.
but hey, everything is good at EK no doubt in that.
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of course it must be the individual, because you haven’t heard or haven’t seen.
very typical EK employee. How can you possibly know everything want happens along the way what happens to nearly 3500 pilots in this company. Just because you don’t know, haven’t heard or seen, does not mean it exists or does not happen.
this monitoring Programm exists since a very long time, and has in the earlier days only raised issues on real threats to a performance, recently this (coming in parallel with the new sick regulations) is becoming more and more a tool to sort out the so called “bad apples”, raised to a completely unrealistic and insane level.
by the way, I have heard about it before, and finally I got details.
As a commander it will not affect you, as fo aspiring command it will and it does as the decision of how much the acceptable margin is, done from behind a desk and with no real life input based how it should be from the desk.
but hey, everything is good at EK no doubt in that.
very typical EK employee. How can you possibly know everything want happens along the way what happens to nearly 3500 pilots in this company. Just because you don’t know, haven’t heard or seen, does not mean it exists or does not happen.
this monitoring Programm exists since a very long time, and has in the earlier days only raised issues on real threats to a performance, recently this (coming in parallel with the new sick regulations) is becoming more and more a tool to sort out the so called “bad apples”, raised to a completely unrealistic and insane level.
by the way, I have heard about it before, and finally I got details.
As a commander it will not affect you, as fo aspiring command it will and it does as the decision of how much the acceptable margin is, done from behind a desk and with no real life input based how it should be from the desk.
but hey, everything is good at EK no doubt in that.
The SOPs are not 'unrealistic and insane' as you put it and are far from it. Also FOs are not assessed on line operational efficiency markers for their command, since such criteria is deemed to be down to the control of the Captain.
EK jets don't fly by themselves and still rely on human decision making.
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We all make errors and the company knows that but what EK profoundly dislikes (message to those joining) are people who don't take accountability for their actions and deflect responsibility elsewhere. I would go as far to say that local management detest those that try to pull the wool over their eyes, since it really amounts to a loss of face on their part. I have seen colleagues go in to discuss a sim that didn't go well or a safety event and they were torn into shreds by Emirati management for not taking ownership of their shortcomings, which were obvious. I have also seen first hand the opposite as well.
The SOPs are not 'unrealistic and insane' as you put it and are far from it. Also FOs are not assessed on line operational efficiency markers for their command, since such criteria is deemed to be down to the control of the Captain.
EK jets don't fly by themselves and still rely on human decision making.
The SOPs are not 'unrealistic and insane' as you put it and are far from it. Also FOs are not assessed on line operational efficiency markers for their command, since such criteria is deemed to be down to the control of the Captain.
EK jets don't fly by themselves and still rely on human decision making.
If seen a trainer being absolutely wrong by the books and nobody from training and fleet managment was willing or had even tried to help to put things in order, not to mention not even listend or answered a email being able what the truth was. Cover up shut up, protected the trainer by all means. So don’t tell me EK is somehow helpful on wrong doing by a trainer.
there is absolutely nothing to expect from these people. Not to say that Airbus and Boeing in this company had been till now (depending on the CPA and CPB) two complete different worlds.
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We all make errors and the company knows that but what EK profoundly dislikes (message to those joining) are people who don't take accountability for their actions and deflect responsibility elsewhere. I would go as far to say that local management detest those that try to pull the wool over their eyes, since it really amounts to a loss of face on their part. I have seen colleagues go in to discuss a sim that didn't go well or a safety event and they were torn into shreds by Emirati management for not taking ownership of their shortcomings, which were obvious. I have also seen first hand the opposite as well.
The SOPs are not 'unrealistic and insane' as you put it and are far from it. Also FOs are not assessed on line operational efficiency markers for their command, since such criteria is deemed to be down to the control of the Captain.
EK jets don't fly by themselves and still rely on human decision making.
The SOPs are not 'unrealistic and insane' as you put it and are far from it. Also FOs are not assessed on line operational efficiency markers for their command, since such criteria is deemed to be down to the control of the Captain.
EK jets don't fly by themselves and still rely on human decision making.
F/o's are assessed by the number of sickdays. Too many...no upgrade. As was communicated by one of the DCPB's. So think twice to call in sick, that is...if you would like to have a 4th stripe. Keep you head low.
short flights long nights
EK has always regarded being sick as a “crime”. You are there to work, not be sick. The new policy on long term sickness reflects this.
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i have not said the SOP are insane, but what I have said that human errors, as we all make them, are handled on an insane level as EK does it. Not only errors are handled on an insane level, even a desk made prediction is made based on data interpretation, which to a complete insane level of punishment, where the slightest laps could be a ban from a command course or a retraining( or better said to a checking to death).
If seen a trainer being absolutely wrong by the books and nobody from training and fleet managment was willing or had even tried to help to put things in order, not to mention not even listend or answered a email being able what the truth was. Cover up shut up, protected the trainer by all means. So don’t tell me EK is somehow helpful on wrong doing by a trainer.
there is absolutely nothing to expect from these people. Not to say that Airbus and Boeing in this company had been till now (depending on the CPA and CPB) two complete different worlds.
If seen a trainer being absolutely wrong by the books and nobody from training and fleet managment was willing or had even tried to help to put things in order, not to mention not even listend or answered a email being able what the truth was. Cover up shut up, protected the trainer by all means. So don’t tell me EK is somehow helpful on wrong doing by a trainer.
there is absolutely nothing to expect from these people. Not to say that Airbus and Boeing in this company had been till now (depending on the CPA and CPB) two complete different worlds.
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that’s why it had been a different world. On Airbus everything was held against the pilots, no matter what. CPA was never open to discuss events of trainers wrong doing. CPB was different in his possibilities. Taking the rumor I hope for Boeing that it is not becoming the same in future.
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Apologies, I haven’t been specific
i was looking to get some insights from somebody who’s done the 2022 selections and he’s now flying for ek
how’s the roster, lifestyle and so on
i was looking to get some insights from somebody who’s done the 2022 selections and he’s now flying for ek
how’s the roster, lifestyle and so on