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MostAnnoying 23rd Mar 2022 13:46

Emirates Application 2022
 
Hey all,

recently received an invitation for the assessment process for NTR B777 for Emirates. Initially applied at ‘Expression of Interest’ and within 12 hours received an invitation for the online assessment.

Have done the first part and “successfully through to the next round” which is apparently Psychometric testing online as well.

anyone that has done this already?

kind regards,

M.A.

A320251N 23rd Mar 2022 17:01

Hi...

Could you please share what you were flying and your qualifications ?

I've applied with them but heard nothing so far.

A320 Capt... +8000hs (B737, A320)... +1500 PIC on the A320.

MostAnnoying 23rd Mar 2022 19:05


Originally Posted by A320251N (Post 11204673)
Hi...

Could you please share what you were flying and your qualifications ?

I've applied with them but heard nothing so far.

A320 Capt... +8000hs (B737, A320)... +1500 PIC on the A320.

Hi,

I am rated on the 737 with just over 2300TT

Donny Haryono 24th Mar 2022 12:15


Originally Posted by MostAnnoying (Post 11204581)
Hey all,

recently received an invitation for the assessment process for NTR B777 for Emirates. Initially applied at ‘Expression of Interest’ and within 12 hours received an invitation for the online assessment.

Have done the first part and “successfully through to the next round” which is apparently Psychometric testing online as well.

anyone that has done this already?

kind regards,

M.A.

may i know when did you submit your registration form? Been submit since nov 2021, never heard any news since then

Latestormer 24th Mar 2022 14:58


Originally Posted by MostAnnoying (Post 11204581)
Hey all,

recently received an invitation for the assessment process for NTR B777 for Emirates. Initially applied at ‘Expression of Interest’ and within 12 hours received an invitation for the online assessment.

Have done the first part and “successfully through to the next round” which is apparently Psychometric testing online as well.

anyone that has done this already?

kind regards,

M.A.


Happy for you, mate! Would you remember when you applied?

My status shows "shortlisted" for a few months now...

MostAnnoying 24th Mar 2022 16:35


Originally Posted by Donny Haryono (Post 11205041)
may i know when did you submit your registration form? Been submit since nov 2021, never heard any news since then

last Sunday 😬

cefey 28th Mar 2022 12:29

Applied a month ago and got a response to submit some papers/cont. A320 2000+ on type.

hairpin 29th Mar 2022 15:39

DO NOT GO WORK FOR THIS AIRLINE. I have been in the industry for 40 years, 15+ working for EK. It will kill you. I've had good and bad jobs but EK is the worst management by far! You've been warned. Stay away. Far away.

MostAnnoying 29th Mar 2022 17:12


Originally Posted by hairpin (Post 11207409)
DO NOT GO WORK FOR THIS AIRLINE. I have been in the industry for 40 years, 15+ working for EK. It will kill you. I've had good and bad jobs but EK is the worst management by far! .

so how come you were there for over 1/3 of your career?

hairpin 30th Mar 2022 00:08

I joined after 9/11. Jobs were scarce and EK was a good job. From the day I joined, EVERY change implemented by management was for the worse for the pilots. I saw hundreds if not thousands of "Ryanair" type pilots join with wide eyes at all the big shiny jets. I left before the rostering killed me, with my head held high. It's been 4 years since I left thinking EK couldn't get any worse. I was wrong. My colleagues who are still there assure me it has in fact got worse. So all you wanna bees.....that's why I spent 15 years there and left. Stay away. Far away.

Egonline 30th Mar 2022 06:50


Originally Posted by MostAnnoying (Post 11207455)
so how come you were there for over 1/3 of your career?

Exactly...

flyTheBigFatLady 30th Mar 2022 07:07


Originally Posted by MostAnnoying (Post 11207455)
so how come you were there for over 1/3 of your career?

lots of people stay longer than they actually want because
the network you fly is great, the money is good but the management sucks. And last but not least the addiction to the lifestyle.
you can afford a car which you would not have at home, you will useless toys.
getting out there is less easy than getting in, because you won’t easily find a job which pays you anywhere near that lifestyle and/or retirement plan. But that comes with a huge price tag - your health, mental strength, your family and your connection to home.

all changes to the none existent contract where is disfavor to the pilots. Pre covid, due to lack in man power Pilots flew 100-120 block hours a month all over the world, day and night, 24/7.
nearly nobody received his full number of vacation days. Everybody is constant monitoring for sick days and lots of other stuff.

the man power problem is now even worse than before and it’s not going to change as the AAR and Co. want to tight up slavery since their is only one management focus on record profits without any human factor involved

there was a time where EK was a reasonable good company but that is many moons ago.

If you think you have done quite a good research into what you are getting, consider yourself as being wrong. There is no way to find out the fact unless you speak to people who have been there. There have more people left over time than stay, for exact those reasons.

n1hdgToga 30th Mar 2022 07:28

Warning is coming from well minded people with general best Interest. But what our ek colleagues do not understand is, while in 15 years they saw things getting worse in EK, it wasnt any better anywhere else, if anything, it got worse faster everywhere else. People around the world were doing 100+ hrs without any leave, half the dignity and even less than half the pay of EK. So, if the doors open, people will line up.

Kennytheking 30th Mar 2022 08:47


because you won’t easily find a job which pays you anywhere near that lifestyle and/or retirement plan.
I was going to write a long post challenging much of what you said but I realized that you summed it all up nicely with this sentence.

Fired600 30th Mar 2022 10:20

Not to forget that they will throw you out at the whim of a bean counter. It’s happened before and will do again.

How many other airlines treated their staff this way? Did they even approach the ones they let go to offer them their job back? Their solution was to hire new cheaper pilots and promote FOs because its cheaper…. No respect or loyalty, and if you believe they wont do it to you, you are deluded.

Kennytheking 30th Mar 2022 11:31


Not to forget that they will throw you out at the whim of a bean counter. It’s happened before and will do again.
In 35 years they retrenched pilots once - because of a worldwide pandemic. Lets not act like it is a daily event. Ask your american mates how many times they have been furloughed.


How many other airlines treated their staff this way?
I don't have numbers but I suspect that Emirates wasn't the only airline letting staff go.


Did they even approach the ones they let go to offer them their job back?
Yes


Their solution was to hire new cheaper pilots and promote FOs because its cheaper
Erm....no. F/O's that were on upgrade when the pandemic hit can look towards the end of the year for upgrade. The first external candidates are currently being interviewed with a prospective start date of October. Until then they are aggressively getting the redundant pilots back. Redundant pilots are returning on the same payscale they left on, so not a single cheaper pilot has been hired.(Caveat, I don't really know what is going on with the Boeing fleet - I talk for Airbus only).

By all means express your frustration with the company here, but try and stick to the facts.
Time to lose the concept of loyalty - there is no such thing. I work here for the money. If the money stops I will be on the first plane home(and the loyal ones can work for free). I don't expect them to show me any loyalty - I expect them to pay me my salary.

T54A 30th Mar 2022 13:55


Originally Posted by Fired600 (Post 11207800)
Not to forget that they will throw you out at the whim of a bean counter. It’s happened before and will do again.

How many other airlines treated their staff this way? Did they even approach the ones they let go to offer them their job back? Their solution was to hire new cheaper pilots and promote FOs because its cheaper…. No respect or loyalty, and if you believe they wont do it to you, you are deluded.

Many many airlines all over the world. Strange question

flyTheBigFatLady 30th Mar 2022 14:17


Originally Posted by T54A (Post 11207901)
Many many airlines all over the world. Strange question

many airlines have not furloughed pilots in the amount like EK. EK was the first in masses, with the most unstructured reasons behind and the most blunt in doing it.

flyTheBigFatLady 30th Mar 2022 14:28

EK has not called back any FO who where short of an upgrade by now.
Preference is given to locals and all those who survived the Desaster as they are now moved up the seniority list by a 1000.
Currently their is no statement of how much your being short of upgrade and the hours come with it will count for a future upgrade.

even low hour capt, returning as FO is listed behind all others.

So if you had your letter for upgrade, and you are not called by now, you are just about to start all over for a min of another 5 years until you back to upgrade.
EK should have at least respect your career position on the call back, which they haven’t done yet and won’t do. Same for low hour capt, you have been promised you will get your command back in 6 to 12 month. I just can laugh if you believe that.
I remember when it was mandatory to be on the 340 to get on the 380 for the sack of a career and suddenly AAR decided that 330/340 pilots shall stay on that fleet and let anybody from a CRJ or A320 into the 380. All those guys got their upgrade before all the 330340 pilots because AAR decided also that a max 1000hours stick time will count for the 380. Technically spoken that was setting back to zero serving a few years in EK.
in 6-12 month some nice great full manager will have an idea that you have to do a full upgrade course with the interview and checking prior to get it back. And if you don’t reach a grading of 4.3 in you 2 OPCs until then they will delay you.

the point is simple you can’t trust EK on a promise, not even its written in a manual or contract.

5star 30th Mar 2022 14:36

On the T7 side, no captain has been or will be recalled…We all had a random medical issue once in our career and were considered ´bad apples‘...
Don‘t miss anything. Just maybe the (mostly) nice colleagues and the car home after work.
So glad I‘m out actually. The one thing you‘ll never get in EK is Respect. Something I do get now.


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