Emirates Application 2022

[ridzuanbinmazlan]

unrestricted medical class 1

For EK, the requirement is unrestricted medical class 1, what does it means for EK? i have limitation “wear corrective lenses”, is that consider a restriction for EK.

[aussiefarmer]

Originally Posted by EpsilonVaz

I am also going through the same research process. I've been looking at dubizzle and I think if you want to get something in a reasonable area that's comparable or better than MS, you're looking in excess of £700k.

Equivalent in size and in a decent location/community you are looking at around 4M AED plus 7% expenses.

For EK, the requirement is unrestricted medical class 1, what does it means for EK? i have limitation “wear corrective lenses”, is that consider a restriction for EK.

No, corrective lenses is not considered a restricted class 1

[aussiefarmer]

Originally Posted by 5strypes

Can anyone shed some light on how the pension works? Are there restrictions on where you can love to claim it during retirement? Is it 12% and company match that? Apologies, I'm somewhat clueless on this front.

Funds are held offshore, managed by Willis Tower Watson. Company contributes 12% you contribute 5% of your salary compulsory. You can increase your contributions, company does not match that. Only after 10 years service company contributes 15%. Once you leave EK, money is released back to you after company gives ok that any pending dues have been settled (ie. a bond, company accomodation back to original condition etc etc). Even your bank will have to give ok for the release if you got debts with UAE Banks.

If you leave prior to 3 years you get no company contribution money. Between 3-5 you get 75%. After 5 years you get 100%. In all cases you get your own contributions back. The company portion could be arguably withheld/never given to you in extreme cases like dismissal.

[5strypes]

Originally Posted by aussiefarmer

Funds are held offshore, managed by Willis Tower Watson. Company contributes 12% you contribute 5% of your salary compulsory. You can increase your contributions, company does not match that. Only after 10 years service company contributes 15%. Once you leave EK, money is released back to you after company gives ok that any pending dues have been settled (ie. a bond, company accomodation back to original condition etc etc). Even your bank will have to give ok for the release if you got debts with UAE Banks.

If you leave prior to 3 years you get no company contribution money. Between 3-5 you get 75%. After 5 years you get 100%. In all cases you get your own contributions back. The company portion could be arguably withheld/never given to you in extreme cases like dismissal.

Incredibly detailed, thank you for that.

Final question (for now), is it acceptable to bring spouses on trips? Ie if you buy them an ID90, can they then travel on the crew bus to hotel?

[aussiefarmer]

Originally Posted by 5strypes

Incredibly detailed, thank you for that.

Final question (for now), is it acceptable to bring spouses on trips? Ie if you buy them an ID90, can they then travel on the crew bus to hotel?

Yes you can, people do. With current loads they might or might not get on, many airport hotels, short layovers so questionable idea apart from one-offs. Crew bus at Capt discretion, hardly ever a problem.

[5strypes]

Originally Posted by aussiefarmer

Yes you can, people do. With current loads they might or might not get on, many airport hotels, short layovers so questionable idea apart from one-offs. Crew bus at Capt discretion, hardly ever a problem.

Understood, thank you again.

Heading for assessment in Dubai soon so just trying to get an idea of similarities to current airline before any potential offer.

[gehenna]

5strypes

I do recall in KUL that non-operating persons are not permitted on the crew bus; this was an Airport regulation, and nothing to do with EK or the Captain. Apart from that, as aussiefarmer says, normally works well, as long as she gets a seat on the a/c!

[5strypes]

Originally Posted by gehenna

5strypes

I do recall in KUL that non-operating persons are not permitted on the crew bus; this was an Airport regulation, and nothing to do with EK or the Captain. Apart from that, as aussiefarmer says, normally works well, as long as she gets a seat on the a/c!

Interesting. I'll never get over the peculiarities of certain aviation rules and practices. Regardless, good to hear that it's possible and done.

On a separate note, I know EK publish starting salaries, but is the scale anywhere to be found or is it simply a 3% increase per year?

[Whitemonk Returns]

Feel free to flame me on this but is the big brain move to live in Meydan for 6 months to a year to get the lay of the land, get the kids into school and then to buy a smaller place, like a 3 bed townhouse or apartment to live in while your an FO and then looking at buying a villa whenever you get a command down the line?

I know from a lifestyle point of view company accommodation is definitely going to be easier but if you were getting the accommodation allowance paying a mortgage, regardless of the property, that would eliminate the need for my wife to work as that would effectively be a second salary coming in to pay a mortgage and building equity in Dubai? I'm sure there are other things to consider and while I may not be familiar with Dubai as of yet, I know enough about buying property that from a purely financial point of view, living in company accommodation does not seem to be the best long term choice to me.

[BigGeordie]

Taking the allowance is a no brainer if you see a long term future at Emirates. After 20 years you have a free house! BUT do bear in mind that after the financial crisis it was 2014 (7 years) before prices returned to their 2007 levels and a lot of people were in a lot of negative equity for a lot of years. Also, your long term future at Emirates might depend on the next global pandemic or financial glitch and in any case your career is potentially only as long as your next landing. The property market in Dubai is still maturing and is not a place for widows and orphans.

[flyTheBigFatLady]

Originally Posted by 5strypes

Interesting. I'll never get over the peculiarities of certain aviation rules and practices. Regardless, good to hear that it's possible and done.

On a separate note, I know EK publish starting salaries, but is the scale anywhere to be found or is it simply a 3% increase per year?

the 3% are not a granted thing - it’s up to the management of you get it or not!
EK does not see it as an mandatory item in your “contract”

[5strypes]

Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady

the 3% are not a granted thing - it’s up to the management of you get it or not!
EK does not see it as an mandatory item in your “contract”

Interesting. Is it common not to have it paid? So theoretically the 30,000 AED/mth could be your salary for some time?

[garethkeenan]

Originally Posted by 5strypes

Interesting. Is it common not to have it paid? So theoretically the 30,000 AED/mth could be your salary for some time?

Very common, yes.

[flyTheBigFatLady]

Originally Posted by 5strypes

Interesting. Is it common not to have it paid? So theoretically the 30,000 AED/mth could be your salary for some time?

without investing my past to long I guess I got 3 times in 8 years

So yes very common not to receive it.

[flyTheBigFatLady]

Originally Posted by 5strypes

Interesting. Is it common not to have it paid? So theoretically the 30,000 AED/mth could be your salary for some time?

and don’t be disappointed if you don’t see 30k on your payslip to paid out as the enum by EK stated only basic plus flight pay, it does not mention all they deduction you will face
so the 30k you hope for will rather be 27,5 - 28

[5strypes]

Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady

without investing my past to long I guess I got 3 times in 8 years

So yes very common not to receive it.

Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady

and don’t be disappointed if you don’t see 30k on your payslip to paid out as the enum by EK stated only basic plus flight pay, it does not mention all they deduction you will face
so the 30k you hope for will rather be 27,5 - 28

Ah. So there is no pay scale so to speak? So one could stay on the same salary for several years. That changes things slightly..

[Fuel-Off]

For some context, I was at EK for 7 years until last year. During that time, I got ONE - read that again - ONE step increase over that time.

Fuel-Off

[Whitemonk Returns]

Originally Posted by Fuel-Off

For some context, I was at EK for 7 years until last year. During that time, I got ONE - read that again - ONE step increase over that time.

Fuel-Off

That's pretty bad actually 👎 I joined my current outfit around 7 years ago and salaries have doubled in that time 😐

[FlightDetent]

Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns

That's pretty bad actually 👎 I joined my current outfit around 7 years ago and salaries have doubled in that time 😐

😁
Thus, after such long time of revaluation abstinence, could you be the EK's lucky charm and bring a 100% increase in the next 7 yrs?

Certainly hope so, any company keeping up with the inflation is great sign.

1.08^7 ~ 72% just to catch up

200/172 ~ 17% increase over 7 yrs combined

[flyTheBigFatLady]

Originally Posted by FlightDetent

😁
Thus, after such long time of revaluation abstinence, could you be the EK's lucky charm and bring a 100% increase in the next 7 yrs?

Certainly hope so, any company keeping up with the inflation is great sign.

1.08^7 ~ 72% just to catch up

200/172 ~ 17% increase over 7 yrs combined

my 50ct on that ain’t happening
after paying 24 weeks this year waiving the carrots considering that the bonus and per the view of EK the step increase is depending on the net profit per year.
every time the finance department releases the fiscal year result it also sets the bar for the next target profit, which is quite accurate, therefore profit excess won’t be big and leaves the assumption that there will not be enough money for excessive employee pay outs, unless you are managment or office staff as these people make an incredible job, whilst crew only up to the required standard.