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LTNman - if you think these community leaders have been "got at" by LRT... then do something about it. You know (or can find out) their names. You know plenty about the issues involved. Write letters to the community leaders... phone them.. ask to meet in person... talk to them. Complaining on a web forum that is generally very much in favour of commercial aviation and its expansion is unlikely to achieve much.
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Shame the town will have no choice but to sell it's greatest asset, in order to pay off ever increasing borrowing costs. How many affordable houses would the DART and DCO have enabled?
Well it would have built 400 £1m houses!
Well it would have built 400 £1m houses!
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The airport always seems to trot out the argument that it's growth is somehow linked to alleviating poverty in Luton.
The airport has grown massively since the early 2000s yet all the metrics I've seen show poverty and inequality in the town is worsening.
It's a red herring argument easily dismissed by actual evidence.
The airport has grown massively since the early 2000s yet all the metrics I've seen show poverty and inequality in the town is worsening.
It's a red herring argument easily dismissed by actual evidence.
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The airport always seems to trot out the argument that it's growth is somehow linked to alleviating poverty in Luton.
The airport has grown massively since the early 2000s yet all the metrics I've seen show poverty and inequality in the town is worsening.
It's a red herring argument easily dismissed by actual evidence.
The airport has grown massively since the early 2000s yet all the metrics I've seen show poverty and inequality in the town is worsening.
It's a red herring argument easily dismissed by actual evidence.
In the past when airport workers have gone on strike the Labour run Council had refused to support them, as they are focused on profits rather than workers rights and pay.
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This is all pointless drivel, which I find fatiguing. DCO’s are not decided on opinion polls or who abstained but on submitted evidence both written and oral. If you have registered you can add to your views with a fresh statement based on your other posts.
Rather than tackling poverty £68m is being spent on this DCO together with £309m that has been spent on the Dart. Both sums that could have been spent on those who need help and maybe ending poverty by creating new non-airport job opportunities that are not seasonal.
So how many jobs has the £309m Dart created? Let’s say 30 with each job created costing £10m. How many passengers has the Dart added to 2019 totals. How about zero. Yes that £309m was well spent in helping to end poverty.
Rather than tackling poverty £68m is being spent on this DCO together with £309m that has been spent on the Dart. Both sums that could have been spent on those who need help and maybe ending poverty by creating new non-airport job opportunities that are not seasonal.
So how many jobs has the £309m Dart created? Let’s say 30 with each job created costing £10m. How many passengers has the Dart added to 2019 totals. How about zero. Yes that £309m was well spent in helping to end poverty.
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I notice that an easy A321 - G-UZMI - diverted in from Gatwick in the early hours. Is this the first time that an A321 has appeared on a service albeit a diversion. It night stopped positioning back to Gatwick in the morning.
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I think the plan was to base at least 1 at LTN next year as 319s get retired and replaced by 320s then existing 320s routes get traded up.
More pressure on the 18m pax limit.
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Unite Union making themselves the most hated Union by general public again. Might impress TUC but how long can they support workers with strike fund, even if you are on the lowest wage scale with GH Handling servicing Wizzair?
FlyOne ? Any other airlines ?
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Wizz Air
FLY ONE
Maybe passengers should pay enough in fares to support a decent wage for airport workers who work 24/7 shift patterns.
This is just another example of the business model that requires staff to be on low pay.
FLY ONE
Maybe passengers should pay enough in fares to support a decent wage for airport workers who work 24/7 shift patterns.
This is just another example of the business model that requires staff to be on low pay.
LTNman - there is nothing special about Luton or Wizzair in this situation. Whenever you have multiple companies supplying a service (aircraft handling at LTN), only one or two main companies (U2 and W6) purchasing the service, and the service involving relatively unskilled manual labour... then this is what happens. It seems the workforce and union are adapting to this setup in the way things normally resolve in a capitalist society. Just stand back, don't worry... and let the major players fight it out amongst themselves... they all know there is a need to do a deal.
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You tell me someone who will buy a Ticket from an airline which pays higher wages...........
Aka Ryanair & Wizzair thrive and the old style airlines die, Sebena, Alitalia etc or club together and move to low cost models ie Oneworld, Star & Skyteam.
Middle Eastern carriers pay well but are bank rolled and cut jobs at a moments notice as alot of Emirates employees found out during covid.
My point was about the Union who are creative on their press releases and always seem to put out a 1970s image, Ok lads, all out!
They are doing the same with Red Handling & Wilson James over at Gatwick.
Makes me wonder if this is an effort by Union to grab as much as it can before forecast inflation drops so their biggest yardstick disappears.....
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