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Old 7th Jul 2023, 21:04
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So all the other airlines share 6 million seats or is Wizz expecting quite a few empty seats?
Very lazy reporters again, the original article says from "London".
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Old 7th Jul 2023, 21:10
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LTNman let me refresh your mind.
Did I criticise free travel for certain categories of people? No, seeing that I am entitled to free Dart travel and regularly use it.

The write-off of £187m was based on a 40 year time period at a then cost of £268m and not the £309m it actually cost. Don’t forget that the Dart has substantial yearly costs including staff, energy, maintenance, and interest payments.

As for the Labour Party in Luton. They have been placed in Special Measures by the Labour Party’s NEC due to fractional infighting for the last 2 years. One of the Labour Councillors, who is a barrister, was deselected for whistle blowing after exposing the alleged illegal activities of the planning committee in their decision making. Let’s remember who has approved Luton Airport planning applications up until now.

The great goal of the Council is to end poverty by 2040 yet LRT has spent half a billion pounds and has yet to creat a single job apart from those at LRT. Now if that money had been invested into the town maybe poverty could have been ended years earlier?

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Old 8th Jul 2023, 00:10
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My first trip on the DART a few days ago. What I noticed more than anything else was that the trains are driverless, but there seem to be numerous members of staff at both stations. The ride was fast and smooth, but expensive as my bus pass had to be pre-authorised some time in advance of travel.
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Old 8th Jul 2023, 08:10
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One of the great mysteries of life is that the Dart has a massive forecourt at Parkway yet the locals and airport workers are banned from using it unless they work on the Dart. Just to make it even more challenging they donít want people stopping on the road to be dropped off or picked up as residents are confronted by double yellow lines with no bays.

The people of Luton might have paid for it but they are discouraged from using the Dart.
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Old 8th Jul 2023, 13:26
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Alot of departure congestion today due to weather & missed slots. Taxiways fully loaded.
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Old 9th Jul 2023, 23:08
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I think that was 124 BizJet movements today, who said Luton has no spare runway capacity and that is with the summer restrictions?
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 09:36
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I think that was 124 BizJet movements today, who said Luton has no spare runway capacity and that is with the summer restrictions?
Conveniently placed for the various weekend activities.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 12:24
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Big business and wealthy individuals doing their bit for global warming then.
....and then they go back to the boardroom and spout greenwash cr@p.
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's
Big business and wealthy individuals doing their bit for global warming then.
Drop in the Ocean, never go to US during superbowl weekend!
And Indias 100+ new airports and Chinas 150+ let alone massive expansion of existing facilities is nothing!
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I think you are once again missing the point.

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Old 10th Jul 2023, 17:10
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Originally Posted by LTNman
I think you are once again missing the point.
I think I saw a few days ago that FR24 recorded the most aircraft ever of over 130,000 movements in 24h.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 17:37
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Drop in the Ocean, never go to US during superbowl weekend!
And Indias 100+ new airports and Chinas 150+ let alone massive expansion of existing facilities is nothing!
But as Tesco keep telling us 'every little helps' and there really is for the most part no NEED for these exec jet flights no matter which side of the Atlantic.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
....and then they go back to the boardroom and spout greenwash cr@p.
That's how big business works, can't tell me the hundreds if helicopter flights were just company directors. If you are a petrol head and have some money you are going to jump at it. Same as following a football team, going to the horse races Etc. Etc.
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Originally Posted by pabely
That's how big business works, can't tell me the hundreds if helicopter flights were just company directors. If you are a petrol head and have some money you are going to jump at it. Same as following a football team, going to the horse races Etc. Etc.
Oh come on. Those petrol heads you refer to are people of serious wealth or those who can write off the cost as a legitimate expense. If your broader point is that hundreds or thousands of sports fans, particularly football (not Luton) fans are willing to spend a grand on a return LCC to a huge European game their team is involved in, that I accept.
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The most polluting sporting event in the world? Tour de France, allegedly...
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 19:28
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Oh come on. Those petrol heads you refer to are people of serious wealth or those who can write off the cost as a legitimate expense. If your broader point is that hundreds or thousands of sports fans, particularly football (not Luton) fans are willing to spend a grand on a return LCC to a huge European game their team is involved in, that I accept.
Who said anything about LCC, did you not notice the flights to the Champions League finals at Turkey?
And if you note the majority of flights by BizJets at Luton on Sunday were from around the world. Perhaps we should shut our doors, we are being green.
Employees around Milton Keynes will thank you for that when the cutting edge engineering & technology jobs disappear.
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As per normal it is the little people who will be expected to change their lifestyles. They are the ones who can't afford to fly even once a year but will be expected to encompass a green way of life while the wealthy just carry on flying into Luton in their 2's and 3's.

So how much Co2 does a couple of full A321 generate carrying say 478 passengers between them vs 124 biz jets carrying I expect less passengers in total on a similar route?
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The most polluting sporting event in the world? Tour de France, allegedly...
Don't get me started on the French and their polution - their fashion industry. Oh I have to replace my whole wardrobe because it is so last season.
Tour de France is only there to promote the most expensive push bikes you can imagine.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
As per normal it is the little people who will be expected to change their lifestyles. They are the ones who can't afford to fly even once a year but will be expected to encompass a green way of life while the wealthy just carry on flying into Luton in their 2's and 3's.

So how much Co2 does a couple of full A321 generate carrying say 478 passengers between them vs 124 biz jets carrying I expect less passengers in total on a similar route?
We can go around in circles with this, ban cruise ships which use very polluting fuel and emissions directly into the oceans vs sameone who had a modest yacht, how dare they!
​Let's close Farnborough, Biggin, Oxford, Cranfield & Northolt for anything other than military. Whilst on that, obsolete disgrace some American produces unnecessary movements at Stansted all week, could he not meet everyone on Zoom?
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There were two Ryanair 737s diverted in this afternoon from Stansted due to Joe Bidens departure. There were a large number of aircraft holding for quite a considerable time. A Jet2 A321 diverted to Birmingham. I bet messrs Meeson and O'Leary were not to happy.
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