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Looking finished except it is not. Opening date was meant to be by April 1st 2021. Passengers for the airport will board in the middle while passengers from the airport will exit on either side. At the terminal end passengers can only board and exit from the middle.
Publicity photo published by Luton Rising (Temperature)
Publicity photo published by Luton Rising (Temperature)
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So TUI have 16 based aircraft at Gatwick and just one at Luton this summer. I wonder if they will have any next year and this is a Luton based airline?
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TUI have run down based aircraft for years at Luton.
Doesn't mean their HO or Engineering is going anywhere.
I'm afraid bad customer feedback of queues on the approach roads & terminal experience took it's toll.
Looking at the artist impression of T2 though shows plenty of TUI aircraft!
Doesn't mean their HO or Engineering is going anywhere.
I'm afraid bad customer feedback of queues on the approach roads & terminal experience took it's toll.
Looking at the artist impression of T2 though shows plenty of TUI aircraft!
So TUI have 16 based aircraft at Gatwick and just one at Luton this summer. I wonder if they will have any next year and this is a Luton based airline?
As I've mentioned before, once the airport went overboard with the cram 'em in at any cost mentality some years ago, a good number of TUI's customers did not appreciate it!
What the future holds for TUI's LTN operation is anyone's guess but the planned flying from LTN this Summer is a fraction of the pre-covid activity with just one rotation per day on weekdays!
As I've mentioned before, once the airport went overboard with the cram 'em in at any cost mentality some years ago, a good number of TUI's customers did not appreciate it!
What the future holds for TUI's LTN operation is anyone's guess but the planned flying from LTN this Summer is a fraction of the pre-covid activity with just one rotation per day on weekdays!
easyJet carry quite a number of TUI customers from Luton.
True - but EZY's LTN operation was a similar size when TUI had 3 aircraft based a few Summers back. Another factor is that it made sense to keep a 757 based at LTN on rotation for hangar A checks. Obviously, now that type has left the fleet, the company feel they can make better use of 737 aircraft elsewhere and virtually all the once LTN based pilots relocated to other bases during the peak of Covid.
True - but EZY's LTN operation was a similar size when TUI had 3 aircraft based a few Summers back. Another factor is that it made sense to keep a 757 based at LTN on rotation for hangar A checks. Obviously, now that type has left the fleet, the company feel they can make better use of 737 aircraft elsewhere and virtually all the once LTN based pilots relocated to other bases during the peak of Covid.
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Luton is a low cost airport that has been updated and expanded on the cheap since the 60’s. You only have to look at the ceilings to see an example where money has been saved giving the whole Luton experience an unpleasant feel.
TUI customers are somewhat more wealthier than the average Wizz and Ryanair passenger with holidays now costing considerable sums so I would say they are somewhat more fussy. Queuing for an hour to get to the terminal was never a great start and even through those days are over people don’t forget so abandoned Luton for a better experience elsewhere. Another alternative to Luton is Birmingham where TUI have 11 aircraft based.
TUI customers are somewhat more wealthier than the average Wizz and Ryanair passenger with holidays now costing considerable sums so I would say they are somewhat more fussy. Queuing for an hour to get to the terminal was never a great start and even through those days are over people don’t forget so abandoned Luton for a better experience elsewhere. Another alternative to Luton is Birmingham where TUI have 11 aircraft based.
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Luton is a low cost airport that has been updated and expanded on the cheap since the 60’s. You only have to look at the ceilings to see an example where money has been saved giving the whole Luton experience an unpleasant feel.
TUI customers are somewhat more wealthier than the average Wizz and Ryanair passenger with holidays now costing considerable sums so I would say they are somewhat more fussy. Queuing for an hour to get to the terminal was never a great start and even through those days are over people don’t forget so abandoned Luton for a better experience elsewhere. Another alternative to Luton is Birmingham where TUI have 11 aircraft based.
TUI customers are somewhat more wealthier than the average Wizz and Ryanair passenger with holidays now costing considerable sums so I would say they are somewhat more fussy. Queuing for an hour to get to the terminal was never a great start and even through those days are over people don’t forget so abandoned Luton for a better experience elsewhere. Another alternative to Luton is Birmingham where TUI have 11 aircraft based.
TUI has to protect slots at places such as LGW and there is a slightly more wealthier demographic in that area to chase!
Also, I doubt TUI was interested in or offered any sweeteners by LBC to expand at LTN whilst Wizz were clearly a major beneficiary!
Also, I doubt TUI was interested in or offered any sweeteners by LBC to expand at LTN whilst Wizz were clearly a major beneficiary!
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TUI sold the slots for the second based aircraft to Wizzair so it's all water under the bridge now.
I note taxiway Foxtrot was in use again today to park bizjets, without the Moscow shuttles business still brisk at the FBOs. Hey Luton, missing a trick here?
I note taxiway Foxtrot was in use again today to park bizjets, without the Moscow shuttles business still brisk at the FBOs. Hey Luton, missing a trick here?
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Well if the rumours were true, allegedly Jet2 wanted to open a Luton base, but for reasons I will not list, soon decided Stansted was a far better option. Some airlines are wanted, others, well Luton Rising is the future......
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Jet2 were never going to LTN. Nowhere enough slots/stands and the existing relationship with MAG.
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My understanding is that the Development Consent Order to government is for permission to expand from 18 million to 32million. So why should the council preempt that decision by giving itself planning permission for 19 million? It seems the council works to a different set of rules when it comes to its airport.
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I thought the need for a DCO didn't kick in until they reached 20.5M ? and stepped rises to this were always on the cards via local approval?
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The DCO states a 2 phase expansion. Phase one covers from 18m so indeed how can the Council approve 19m when they will be submitting expansion from 18m? What if the government says no expansion, does the council just ignore it?
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The sound of twisted arms could be heard from the soon to be destroyed, Wigmore Park (or whatever it is called now).
What has MAG got to do with a Leeds based commercial airline?
Massive base Jet2 has at Bournemouth....... Mind you, pre Covid, that was happening.
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In your opinion, but our sources, mine ultra reliable, differ. Think back to the year prior to Jet2 announcing Stansted, slots, not a problem, stands, again not an issue
The sound of twisted arms could be heard from the soon to be destroyed, Wigmore Park (or whatever it is called now).
What has MAG got to do with a Leeds based commercial airline?
Massive base Jet2 has at Bournemouth....... Mind you, pre Covid, that was happening.
The sound of twisted arms could be heard from the soon to be destroyed, Wigmore Park (or whatever it is called now).
What has MAG got to do with a Leeds based commercial airline?
Massive base Jet2 has at Bournemouth....... Mind you, pre Covid, that was happening.
The fact is, LTN would never have been able to take the capacity LS has put into BHX or STN. I'm sure, as with any airline in any drive for significant growth plans - all options were considered, LGW, maybe SEN too I'm sure.
This scenario of yours where LTN was somewhat superior in their initial plans is totally unevidenced. I personally find hard it would've been, considering the market overlap with BHX, where too they have invested very heavily. That's not to say talks didn't possibly progress to quite an advanced stage. Plus it hardly matters now, because they've clearly done well with BHX, STN, and BRS is establishing itself quite well it seems too. That's not to say LTN will never happen of course.
Btw, MAG sold BOH in 2017.