Luton-10

[davidjohnson6]

Wizz are closing their 2 aircraft base at Suceava in Romania at the end of October 2023. Suceava will lose 6 routes, but the Luton route will remain as 12x weekly... presumably using an aircraft that spends the night at Luton. How much spare space is there at Luton overnight for A320/B737 sized aircraft ? Is winter overnight as busy as summer ? I thought LTN overnight was already pretty full... or is there a plan to free up space by making life a little more difficult for general aviation ?

[compton3bravo]

Now that Lidl has opened the largest warehouse in the world, wonder if any ad hoc freight flights will be forthcoming especially just before Christmas. Noticed also DHL have gained 108 slots for winter 2023-24.

[pabely]

More upgrades without more passengers

https://airlinergs.com/london-luton-...er-experience/

[Spanish eyes]

You mean less passengers. The artists impression shows a near empty departure lounge. Is this showing the airport after Wizzair collapses?

[pabely]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

Wizz are closing their 2 aircraft base at Suceava in Romania at the end of October 2023. Suceava will lose 6 routes, but the Luton route will remain as 12x weekly... presumably using an aircraft that spends the night at Luton. How much spare space is there at Luton overnight for A320/B737 sized aircraft ? Is winter overnight as busy as summer ? I thought LTN overnight was already pretty full... or is there a plan to free up space by making life a little more difficult for general aviation ?

4 extra stands already since last winter with more coming online (Taxiway Echo diversion NOTAM expires 14 Nov so maybe those will be ready soon after).
What these do is free up hangarline stands, NetJets already taken advantage of this.
If the ex MAEL ones can be kept clear then more likely to get tenants. aka rent and jobs.

[Spanish eyes]

So what you are saying is that there are no extra stands as they are just freeing up the hangar line. Some with a suspicious mind will see this as expansion by the back door as the hangar line will still be blocked.

[pabely]

Originally Posted by Spanish eyes

So what you are saying is that there are no extra stands as they are just freeing up the hangar line. Some with a suspicious mind will see this as expansion by the back door as the hangar line will still be blocked.

I don't believe the number if declared commercial stands has increased - just giving them back for other activities. As was questioned earlier in the thread, Signature get full use of Pond again and hangar line is available for other activities. Should help TUI this winter.

On a light hearted note, anyone remember Jane in "Airline" working for Easyjet?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/23859003...port-comeback/

[pabely]

Originally Posted by Spanish eyes

You mean less passengers. The artists impression shows a near empty departure lounge. Is this showing the airport after Wizzair collapses?

What makes you think Wizzair would collapse?
If they did, which is unlikely, RYR and Jet2 would probably move in next day.

[TBSC]

Wizz LTN frequency changes (mostly reductions):

W6
Bucharest – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 28 to 24 weekly (Except 04DEC23 – 07JAN24)
Budapest – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 21 to 19 weekly (Except 05DEC23 – 08JAN24)
Cluj – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 17 to 14 weekly (Except 04DEC23 – 05JAN24)
Craiova – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 11 to 9 weekly (Except 05DEC23 – 09JAN24)
Debrecen – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 6 to 4 weekly (Except 05DEC23 – 08JAN24)
Gdansk – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 14 to 12 weekly (Except 05DEC23 – 08JAN24)
Katowice – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 14 to 12 weekly (13 weekly 06DEC23 – 03JAN24)
Larnaca – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly (5 from 13JAN24)
Sibiu – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (Except 05DEC23 – 08JAN24)
Sofia – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 19 to 17 weekly (18 weekly 05DEC23 – 07JAN24)
Timisoara – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly (Except 06DEC23 – 08JAN24)
Varna – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 10 to 6 weekly (Except 05DEC23 – 10JAN24)
Vilnius – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (Except 05DEC23 – 08JAN24)
Warsaw – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 23 to 19 weekly (Except 06DEC23 – 09JAN24)
Wroclaw – London Luton eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 10 to 7 weekly (Except 04DEC23 – 05JAN24)
Suceava – London Luton Last flight 28OCT23

W9
London Luton – Giza Sphinx eff 30OCT23 3 weekly A321neo (Previously reported)
London Luton – Suceava eff 29OCT23 12 weekly A321ceo/321neo, reduced from 14 weekly A320.
This route will be operating under Wizz Air UK’s W9-coded flight numbers, instead of Wizz Air Malta)
London Luton – Amman eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 5 to 4 weekly
London Luton – Belgrade eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 6 to 5 weekly (Except 09DEC23 – 06JAN24)
London Luton – Bratislava 05DEC23 – 08JAN24 Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly
London Luton – Hurghada eff 29OCT23 Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
London Luton – Iasi 07DEC23 – 07JAN24 Reduce from 4 to 2 weekly (Planned increase removed)
London Luton – Poznan 03DEC23 – 08JAN24 Increase from 6 to 7 weekly
London Luton – Tallinn eff 06DEC23 Increase from 2 to 3 weekly (Previous: 3 weekly until 08JAN24)
London Luton – Tel Aviv eff 01NOV23 Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly (Previous: eff 13JAN24)
London Luton – Tirana 29OCT23 – 03DEC23 Increase from 19 to 21 weekly
04DEC23 – 17DEC23 Increase from 21 to 24 weekly
18DEC23 – 03JAN24 Reduce from 35 to 24 weekly
04JAN24 – 30MAR24 Reduce from 33 to 21 weekly

~38-40 less flights/week.

Wizz Air NW23 Network Changes – 10SEP23 — AeroRoutes

[pabely]

The above is not as much as I might have expected with a change from Summer to Winter shedules and on top of GTF engine issues.

[pabely]

Luton took x4 EZY diversions due to ATC issues at LGW today, STN took Vueling & Air Europa?

[Keanaga]

LGW divs

STN had 2 Tui,1Fr,1Vy and a Ae the Tui fuelled and left the other 3 offload then left.

Regards.

[LTNman]

Gone are the days of interesting diversions. Is it a case of the airport rejecting anything interesting to keep its based airlines happy regarding maximising their own diversions or is it that the non-Luton airlines have zero interest in the airport and want to avoid the chaos.

[Captain_Caveman]

Originally Posted by LTNman

Gone are the days of interesting diversions. Is it a case of the airport rejecting anything interesting to keep its based airlines happy regarding maximising their own diversions or is it that the non-Luton airlines have zero interest in the airport and want to avoid the chaos.

it has nothing to do with Luton in particular. Airports advise how many diversions they can accept, then either ATC tell aircraft where they are diverting too in the case of mass sudden diversions and the Captain agreeing based on fuel and weather conditions. Other times the captain decides if a quick decision is required based on fuel reserves and weather minima or at other times the airlines operations team advise their aircraft where to divert to (in conjunction with the captain) based on where they have crew based, handling agreements, onward transport arrangements, size of aircraft etc. that is the same for every airport, not just Luton.

[pabely]

Exactly, Easyjet will always use Luton as an alternate due to availability of staff and handling familiar with aircraft so reduce potential out of hours and staff/transport unavailable at short notice. I think Luton now keeps x3 A320 capable stands for diversions now.
I feel for the BA Euroflyer pax who ended up at Cardiff.
Case in point, x2 Air Indias went to LHR where handling is well established. The Vueling & Air Europa pax if as was stated got dropped at STN and positioned back empty to bases, not so nice if sitting in LGW departures to go to Spain.

[LTNman]

Is an Easyjet division even worthy of a report here unless someone is suffering from insomnia?

[DC3 Dave]

Originally Posted by LTNman

Is an Easyjet division even worthy of a report here unless someone is suffering from insomnia?

A division of easyjet? Absolutely. More information please!

[TBSC]

Originally Posted by LTNman

Gone are the days of interesting diversions. Is it a case of the airport rejecting anything interesting to keep its based airlines happy regarding maximising their own diversions or is it that the non-Luton airlines have zero interest in the airport and want to avoid the chaos.

I think the 2100 m runway makes it a no-go as an alternate for most interesting types and operators. Yes, I know, the cargo 330, the El-Al 777 et al. but that is planned operation and not a one-off decision made under time pressure.

[compton3bravo]

Sorry LTNman got to disagree, of course you are bound to get easy, Wizz diversions as they are based companies, but if my memory serves me çorrectly Luxair and BACityflyer had aircraft divert in last winter.

[pabely]

Welcome back night time Ad-hoc slots from tomorrow for W23.
On the subject of BizJets, looking with interest at FAB application for more annual movements, extended weekend hours and an almost doubling of permitted weekend ops. Currently Luton does well if anything runs late into FAB.