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I remember hearing a similar story a few months ago, it soon died a death as a rumour though. Does this one involve 'rotorcraft' ?
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The latest position on the Fire School. Please note that it is not run by the RAF.
Following the end of the Cold War and the subsequent RAF withdrawal from Germany, Manston became surplus to RAF requirements and the airfield was sold in 1999 to become today’s Kent International Airport. However, FSCTE was retained, becoming an enclave set within the former RAF Manston domestic site. Ownership of FSCTE was originally vested in HQ Strike Command at RAF High Wycombe. However, an era of significant change began in September 2006 when the MOD’s firefighting capability was reorganised under a single integrated, Army funded headquarters known as the Defence Fire Risk Management Organisation (DFRMO) embedded within the Defence Logistics Organisation (DLO) at Andover. DFRMO reports to Commander Regional Forces (CRF) within HQ LAND at Wilton. In turn, FSCTE governance is vested in HQ DFRMO in respect of budgetary delegation and specialist training functions, whilst most essential administrative support functions are derived from HQ 2 (SE) Brigade at Shorncliffe garrison, Folkestone.
Governance changes aside, Firefighter training has been carried out at Manston in various forms since 1958 and we are extremely proud of the excellent reputation that the school enjoys both home and overseas. Many of our training facilities are available for lease under the ‘Wider Markets’ initiative.
Finally, we cannot escape the fact that the MOD and the UK Armed Forces are undergoing a significant period of change and it may come as no surprise therefore to learn that the future of FSCTE is presently under review. The results of a definitive study into the future of MOD Firefighter training delivery are expected circa 2009 with implementation scheduled for 2011. This may see FSCTE move elsewhere, but it is equally true that it could reaffirm FSCTE within the Manston site for many years to come. For now though it is very much business as usual.
D I LAINCHBURY
Wing Commander, RAF
(ex)Commandant, MOD FSCTE
Following the end of the Cold War and the subsequent RAF withdrawal from Germany, Manston became surplus to RAF requirements and the airfield was sold in 1999 to become today’s Kent International Airport. However, FSCTE was retained, becoming an enclave set within the former RAF Manston domestic site. Ownership of FSCTE was originally vested in HQ Strike Command at RAF High Wycombe. However, an era of significant change began in September 2006 when the MOD’s firefighting capability was reorganised under a single integrated, Army funded headquarters known as the Defence Fire Risk Management Organisation (DFRMO) embedded within the Defence Logistics Organisation (DLO) at Andover. DFRMO reports to Commander Regional Forces (CRF) within HQ LAND at Wilton. In turn, FSCTE governance is vested in HQ DFRMO in respect of budgetary delegation and specialist training functions, whilst most essential administrative support functions are derived from HQ 2 (SE) Brigade at Shorncliffe garrison, Folkestone.
Governance changes aside, Firefighter training has been carried out at Manston in various forms since 1958 and we are extremely proud of the excellent reputation that the school enjoys both home and overseas. Many of our training facilities are available for lease under the ‘Wider Markets’ initiative.
Finally, we cannot escape the fact that the MOD and the UK Armed Forces are undergoing a significant period of change and it may come as no surprise therefore to learn that the future of FSCTE is presently under review. The results of a definitive study into the future of MOD Firefighter training delivery are expected circa 2009 with implementation scheduled for 2011. This may see FSCTE move elsewhere, but it is equally true that it could reaffirm FSCTE within the Manston site for many years to come. For now though it is very much business as usual.
D I LAINCHBURY
Wing Commander, RAF
(ex)Commandant, MOD FSCTE
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Kent International Airport handled 1,088 tonnes of freight in July, up 6% on the same month a year earlier
EgyptAir was up more than 50% against July 2007 and Cargolux also grew volume. These gains were offset by the absence of MK Airlines flights. Total year-to-date freight volume is 5% behind the equivalent period last year.
Charter flights to Gran Canaria, operated by Kent Escapes, started at the end of the month and will run throughout the busiest weeks of the school holidays.
EgyptAir was up more than 50% against July 2007 and Cargolux also grew volume. These gains were offset by the absence of MK Airlines flights. Total year-to-date freight volume is 5% behind the equivalent period last year.
Charter flights to Gran Canaria, operated by Kent Escapes, started at the end of the month and will run throughout the busiest weeks of the school holidays.
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sorry everyone...bad news
Seguro Travel Limited and its subsidiary Seguro Aviation Limited which trade under the style Seguro Holidays and Kent Escapes ceased trading on 10 September 2008.
Customers who have booked to travel by air from 10 September onwards should refer to the Civil Aviation Authority website (Air Travel Organisers' Licensing | ATOL) where further advice is given.
The directors of the company deeply regret the closure of the business which has been brought about by the failure of Futura Airlines last weekend.
The directors of Seguro have no involvement in the management of Futura Airlines.
The directors apologise to all of our customers.
Customers who have booked to travel by air from 10 September onwards should refer to the Civil Aviation Authority website (Air Travel Organisers' Licensing | ATOL) where further advice is given.
The directors of the company deeply regret the closure of the business which has been brought about by the failure of Futura Airlines last weekend.
The directors of Seguro have no involvement in the management of Futura Airlines.
The directors apologise to all of our customers.
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S***!
Better let the neighbours know
It is feared that some 2,400 holidaymakers may be stranded abroad following the collapse of a company operating flights out of Kent International Airport at Manston.
Seguro Holidays, which also trades as Kent Escapes, stopped business today (Wednesday).
A statement from travel association ABTA states: “ABTA understands that there are 2,400 people abroad with Seguro Travel and 17,253 forward bookings up until the end of summer 2009.”
Destinations included the Canary Islands and Majorca.
The Civil Aviation Authority will address the issue of customers who were booked with the firm.
A message on the Seguro website reads: “The directors of the company deeply regret the closure of the business which has been brought about by the failure of Futura Airlines last weekend.
“The directors apologise to all of our customers.”
As well as running holidays with flights from KIA, Seguro also operated air package holidays with flights from Glasgow Prestwick.
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Manston holiday firm folds
It is feared that some 2,400 holidaymakers may be stranded abroad following the collapse of a company operating flights out of Kent International Airport at Manston.
Seguro Holidays, which also trades as Kent Escapes, stopped business today (Wednesday).
A statement from travel association ABTA states: “ABTA understands that there are 2,400 people abroad with Seguro Travel and 17,253 forward bookings up until the end of summer 2009.”
Destinations included the Canary Islands and Majorca.
The Civil Aviation Authority will address the issue of customers who were booked with the firm.
A message on the Seguro website reads: “The directors of the company deeply regret the closure of the business which has been brought about by the failure of Futura Airlines last weekend.
“The directors apologise to all of our customers.”
As well as running holidays with flights from KIA, Seguro also operated air package holidays with flights from Glasgow Prestwick.
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All thanetonians should be supporting their local airport, now more than ever, otherwise you'll have more than the "china gateway" to deal with, there may well be a shed load of housing estates to protest about too>
The whole industry is suffering at the moment with airlines going bust left right and centre and unfortunately when there are only a few operators it hurts the business more.
Batten down the hatches and break out the tinned "pprunes"
The whole industry is suffering at the moment with airlines going bust left right and centre and unfortunately when there are only a few operators it hurts the business more.
Batten down the hatches and break out the tinned "pprunes"
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Oh well, another nail in the coffin.
I, and a lot of other people i know fully support manston and would like to see its succeed, however there is no getting away with the fact that this will be seen as another failure for manston, but with only one pax charter company operating from the place, one failure is over publicised. i hope it doesnt recieve too much negative press, we should still be talking up manston(sorry catflaps but some of us want it to succeed)
I, and a lot of other people i know fully support manston and would like to see its succeed, however there is no getting away with the fact that this will be seen as another failure for manston, but with only one pax charter company operating from the place, one failure is over publicised. i hope it doesnt recieve too much negative press, we should still be talking up manston(sorry catflaps but some of us want it to succeed)
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It is extremely sad, especially as the Manston flights had been doing so well (170+ on every flight). I would say the only hope is that a small scale local company (along the lines of Bath Travel) starts up to take the iniative, but given the current climate it is extremely unlikely. The chance of a major operator moving in now is probably non-existant.
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Did KIA held any talks with Wizzair? Aren't there enough workers from CE Europe in Kent to fill at least one plane a day? Some Poles or Hungarians living in suburbs of London could be interested in using a (supposedly) cheaper airport too. Wizzair already uses some Infratil airports (Prestwick, Lübeck).
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I suspect that they probably did at least have talks and I always felt a 3x weekly to Katowice probably would have worked circa 2006/7, but immigrant numbers from those areas are falling and Wizz themselves have been retreating from the UK (downsizing/pulling out of Bournemouth, Coventry, Teeside, Gatwick, Stansted, Belfast).
I would say the only remote prospect of scheduled passenger flights would be with Ryanair, perhaps 3/4 weekly flights to two or three of Dublin/Prestwick/Edinburgh/Alicante/Gerona/Malaga (if the rumoured base ever happens at the latter). But they are also the only FR destinations I believe could work from Manston, and I don't think they will happen.
I believe in 2010 at best there will be a flight to Jersey and a flight to Turkey per week, plus a selection of Newmarket flights. I don't believe there will be anything else, and I'm sure its going to be a very quiet 2009.
I would say the only remote prospect of scheduled passenger flights would be with Ryanair, perhaps 3/4 weekly flights to two or three of Dublin/Prestwick/Edinburgh/Alicante/Gerona/Malaga (if the rumoured base ever happens at the latter). But they are also the only FR destinations I believe could work from Manston, and I don't think they will happen.
I believe in 2010 at best there will be a flight to Jersey and a flight to Turkey per week, plus a selection of Newmarket flights. I don't believe there will be anything else, and I'm sure its going to be a very quiet 2009.
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Manston must remmber we are out here waiting .this wont get your supporters down, the airport must lower their prices get some good contracts before we loose our airport altogether ,no ONE can carry on loosing money, I do know taff transport has won a contract with MK 5or6 loads 7 days a week, but has to go to Ostend every day ,they are in talks with manston,as lots of other firms are ,well ,thats what they say,every time somthing goes wrong,now we might get a memo from manston telling . ,.us all the truth.it looks like its back to gatwick again,we have all been waiting for somthing to happen ,mean while they go on loosing money.this cant keep happen in real life.
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It is to be hoped the redundancies at Manston are not comprised of workers who made big lifestyle changes to come to Thanet - selling homes, pulling kids out of school etc. Manston is a suitable place to work if one has no ties and can move on easily, but it is far too dicey a prospect for anyone with big responsibilities.
In a few weeks time the seasonal rise in cargo traffic is to be expected, and the usual bunch will appear on this thread making optimistic predictions as in the last two winters.
Be wary of this.
There are plenty of people with vested interests around Manston who do not care if they issue misleading comments.
If you are looking to work at Manston, do your own research and make sure you have a contigency plan if things go bust.
In a few weeks time the seasonal rise in cargo traffic is to be expected, and the usual bunch will appear on this thread making optimistic predictions as in the last two winters.
Be wary of this.
There are plenty of people with vested interests around Manston who do not care if they issue misleading comments.
If you are looking to work at Manston, do your own research and make sure you have a contigency plan if things go bust.
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Must agree with some of the comments. For the present even if fees are reduced there is not enough monies to put flights in and out on a weekly basis. From an aircraft rotation / utilisation it makes no sense to serve airports such as Manston, there is little enough being earned at LGW / STN and before you get a look in there management will be there first. The future @ KIA looks bleak, the same can be said too for SEN.
That covers the pax market and cargo earnings are even worse, that business being even more cutthroat. Much of the airfreight moving around makes no money for the arlines at all and you will so see cutbacks within the cargo airlines outfits as they are already struggling, added to which they fly less economic aircrafts in the majority.
That covers the pax market and cargo earnings are even worse, that business being even more cutthroat. Much of the airfreight moving around makes no money for the arlines at all and you will so see cutbacks within the cargo airlines outfits as they are already struggling, added to which they fly less economic aircrafts in the majority.