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Old 23rd Jan 2010, 12:36
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I have asked my Employer why we don't have BOH as a diversion especially for LHR/BRS/CWL flights and have been told that the airport cannot guarantee handling/passengers services and that any diversions would be on a first come first served.

So for all these flights out no1 is BHX, although if I am operating I would always give BOH a try as I could be home in 5 minutes http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif
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Old 23rd Jan 2010, 12:55
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Ryanair BCN(GRO)

I Was allso booked on a Ryanair Flight from Bournemouth to GRO for a Thursday , and now have to go out on a Wednesday, (Taken another day of work) in May.

Wish ryanair would sort then self out, they know how to upset ppl so easy..

Come one of the other LLC Show Ryanair how its done from Bournemouth.

Thats if you get the help from the airport owners. !!!!!!

Pairs/ Amsterdam / And even scotland......
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Old 23rd Jan 2010, 19:31
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BOH-CCF

Well i can only go on a Saturday. Refund for me. FR you are useless.

Now LHR-TLS or SOU-PGF

And i live 5 minutes from BOH.

Pathetic.
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Old 26th Jan 2010, 14:50
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Ryanair 1

Anything new going to be announced regarding Ops out of BOH ? Especially rotations from other FR bases
Thanks in advance !
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Old 27th Jan 2010, 15:49
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easyjet @ boh

Heard a few rumours possible easyjet placing one or two a/c at bournemouth once the terminal is finished, can anyone confirm or deny these rumours, hope it's true but have my doubts.
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Old 27th Jan 2010, 17:51
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I hear that SOU is in the pipeline for routes so who knows...
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Old 27th Jan 2010, 22:25
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Ryanair also offer 2 flights a week to PSA (Sat & Wed) in the summer
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 12:40
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Palmair domestic schedules?

It would be sensible for Palmair to operate some scheduled services from BOH.

I can see some to BFS, GLA and EDI operating out and back before 09:30 departures to Europe for the sun-seekers. Could even get some feed for them. Would certainly be more efficient use of the crews and aircraft which sits on the ground a lot of the time.

It was very progressive of Palmair back in 2002/3? when they announced the double daily GLA flights - soon dropped once Buzz & later FR announced their own GLA/PIK flights.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 13:26
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It would be sensible for Palmair to operate some scheduled services from BOH.
No it wouldn't. Why on earth would Palmair want to get into scheduled services in the middle of a massive industry recession?

Also I believe the contract with Astraeus means that Palmair mostly pay for the 737 when it is actually flying - so it costs Palmair very little to leave it sitting on the ground.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 06:38
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The fact remains that there is a demand for domestic routes from BOH, all the Airline ( who ? I don't know ) has to do, is compete with FlyBe and use a similar sized A/C. B738 is too big !

Bournemouth will need some domestic routes to make good use of the terminal they have built.

Ryanair now seem to be concentrating on popular Holiday routes, already served by Thomson & Palmair ! I wonder Why ?

I agree with Nakata77 why not use the Palmair A/C or a Jet2, if the deal with Astraeus is just for flying time, it's not much good for them, an aircraft needs to be Flying as much as possible.

As they say, if you can start something in the recession that works, you will reap the rewards when things are on the up, don't forget the Olympics are not far off, money to be made then !

MAG will have to have a POO Bag fitted if something doesn't show up !
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 08:29
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If the aircraft was to depart on a holiday flight at 0930 then the morning flight would have to run (Based on 45 min turnarounds, 1:25 flight time to EDI)

0510 - 0635 BOH - EDI/GLA/BFS
0720 - 0845 EDI/GLA/BFS - BOH
0930 BOH - Holiday

If Ryanair cant make a profit on domestic with flights departing at the "stupid" time of 0640, im not sure Palmair stand much of a chance at 0510 departures!
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 09:08
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If the aircraft was to depart on a holiday flight at 0930 then the morning flight would have to run (Based on 45 min turnarounds, 1:25 flight time to EDI)
I agree that the timings have got to be better for a morning domestic and so for it to fit in with a charter flight after getting back to BOH, but 45 minute turnarounds on a 735 domestic flight is really unreal. 25 minutes would be the most needed and the departure times to it's holiday destinations could be slighty modified...
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 12:10
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Don't forget that in the peak summer season there are sometime two "holiday" rotations in a day. How would that work?

As said, if domestic routes re-start out of BOH it won't be Palmair.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 20:29
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To attempt the use the sole a/c on a domestic service would be suicidal and utterly rediculous for Palmair to even contemplate.

The Palmair charter business thrives on the customer orientated, reliable, and punctual service it operates. To risk that by squeezing in other services and risking tech issues/knock on delays would be wholly irresponsible and detremental to the established business.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 20:51
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Even with a 25 minute turnaround the flight would have to leave Bournemouth at 05:50? Easyjet and Ryanair are the only airlines in Europe that can pull off a 25 minute turnaround. This is through established procedures. Im not so sure Palmair could pull it off, they may manage in EDI with domestic only pax, but in BOH, with holiday pax getting on...doubt it.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 22:19
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Even with a 25 minute turnaround the flight would have to leave Bournemouth at 05:50? Easyjet and Ryanair are the only airlines in Europe that can pull off a 25 minute turnaround. This is through established procedures. Im not so sure Palmair could pull it off, they may manage in EDI with domestic only pax, but in BOH, with holiday pax getting on...doubt it.
For a start I can't see Palmair doing domestics anyway as already mentioned, though EZY and FR are not the only ones that can pull these kind of short turnarounds off in Europe at all, especially with a 735. WW, LS, BE, SZ, 4U, HF to name just a few, are some of the other airlines that can achieve turnarounds in under 30 mins even on their 'sun' routes.

Though i guess on holiday flights such as what palmair operate then it can be harder as they use cleaners, catering etc... Something TOM proved when they operated there scheduled services. Their crews really weren't trained or at least operate in the way in which those above airlines do. I regularly saw 30 minute turnarounds at DSA and CVT on a 733 turn into at least an hour even after a short JER hop.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 22:33
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"It was very progressive of Palmair back in 2002/3? when they announced the double daily GLA flights - soon dropped once Buzz & later FR announced their own GLA/PIK flights."

Correct me if I'm wrong someone, but wasn't it an airline called Euroscot Express that flew between Glasgow and Bournemouth?
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 06:17
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Anyone in the know as to what happened with Yesterdays Ryanair Tenerife Flight ?

Should have been back 2225 Friday now showing as arriving 1800 Saturday
presume it went Tech.
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 07:02
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Hi James, Euroscot operated from 1997 to 1999 then it was Gill air for a short time. This ceased in 2000.

In 2002 Palmair announced completely out of the blue that they would do a double daily Glasgow service from BOH using the 2nd B737 they used from European. This was quickly ditched when Buzz announced they would do a daily PIK service as part of the base they proposed (to start Mar 2003)

Buzz then dropped PIK as fast as you can say Jack Flash when Ryanair announced they would do it from Feb 2003 daily.

FOOD CHAIN WORKING!

But now no-one on domestic schedules from BOH... Huge potential exists. If Ryanair can make PIK work for 6 years in some cases double daily B738's on the route then i think its pretty obvious some kind of demand exists.
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 21:50
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal
If Ryanair can make PIK work for 6 years in some cases double daily B738's on the route then i think its pretty obvious some kind of demand exists.
You're right that some kind of demand exists (me!). But obviously, Ryanair couldn't make it work, or EDI either, which is why they dropped them.

Or, to re-phrase that, in the current economic downturn they can't make them work.

Or, to re-phrase the re-phrased bit, in the current economic downturn they might work but they can make more money by flying somewhere else. Which is all they want to do - make money.

p.s. My neighbours just got back from Tenerife on the Ryanair flight. Some sort of computer problem which couldn't be fixed until some engineers were flown in. They said they were all looked after very well - taxis laid on to a hotel for the night. Is this really Ryanair
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