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No PIK in Aug 09 which last Aug carried 16,905 pax!!
Disappointing though was Edinburgh with about a 70 % considering no Prestwick route now
The route cries out for two flights day but probably doesn't justify a 189 seater - such a shame that someone like Air Southwest hasn't come in to fill the gap. The demand seemed to be there (nearly 17,000 pax in one month) and Ryanair surely should have been able to sustain a daily flight, with the right timings for short/weekend breaks in both directions.
The fact that the Edinburgh service is only running at 70% seems to indicate that a lot of the passengers that were travelling on the PIK service actually wanted to go to Glasgow and the Scottish West Coast or were Glaswegians travelling to the South Coast. Presumably enough of the users of the PIK service moved to the EDI when it was introduced to dilute the PIK service enough to make it unviable or was it just a coincidence with the timing of the recession?
I've used the Ryanair BOH-PIK service a few times in the past but next time I have little choice but to go to GLA with FlyBe from Southampton. I would be interested to know if the Flybe passenger numbers to GLA have increased since the withdrawal of BOH-PIK or have these journeys just stopped being made altogether?
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Take the long view - statistics!
Routes come and go, traffic generally shows a trend over the year or two.
Both BOH and SOU are roughly back at 2005 pax levels now, but both are still very significantly up on 2004.
Best year was 2007 for both airports, with August 2009 numbers each being 20,000 pax less than August 2007. A big drop!
Sticking with the month of August - SOU dropped 15k pax in 2008 over 2007, and BOH dropped only 6k in 2008 over 2007, but caught up this year. Which says the business traffic (SOU) slowed first, and the leisure (BOH) followed.
But the SOU traffic is now stable -does that mean the business traffic is coming back? probably yes - Look at LHR numbers.. still showing growth!
Pre 2005, BOH was usually about 30% of SOU, that changed with the LCC base. BOH is now consistently 50% of SOU.
So expect to see BOH numbers stabilize and follow the SOU trend.
Confused!?
Both BOH and SOU are roughly back at 2005 pax levels now, but both are still very significantly up on 2004.
Best year was 2007 for both airports, with August 2009 numbers each being 20,000 pax less than August 2007. A big drop!
Sticking with the month of August - SOU dropped 15k pax in 2008 over 2007, and BOH dropped only 6k in 2008 over 2007, but caught up this year. Which says the business traffic (SOU) slowed first, and the leisure (BOH) followed.
But the SOU traffic is now stable -does that mean the business traffic is coming back? probably yes - Look at LHR numbers.. still showing growth!
Pre 2005, BOH was usually about 30% of SOU, that changed with the LCC base. BOH is now consistently 50% of SOU.
So expect to see BOH numbers stabilize and follow the SOU trend.
Confused!?
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Confused? - yes very, thanks FF
Next year will be a different story when the recesion is over (or will it be a double dip) and the new terminal is open!
Just hope Ryanair's planners get the ants out of their pants and keep things settled and some other airlines come to play.
Next year will be a different story when the recesion is over (or will it be a double dip) and the new terminal is open!
Just hope Ryanair's planners get the ants out of their pants and keep things settled and some other airlines come to play.
The reason that the BOH-PIK traffic collapsed and the BOH-EDI figures are not that good is because of the ridiculous timings of flights that RYR introduced.
It seems that people travelling to Spain, Turkey, etc don't seem to mind arriving at some ridiculous time of the day - but on an internal UK flight, the psyche seems to make that unacceptable.
It seems that people travelling to Spain, Turkey, etc don't seem to mind arriving at some ridiculous time of the day - but on an internal UK flight, the psyche seems to make that unacceptable.
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If it was Sunday Afternoon - The runway had to shut for 10 minutes or so due to a light aircraft catching on fire (or smoke seen coming from it - depending on your news source).
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Forward bookings on the new Canaries services are very strong, in some instances stronger than at others from the UK. This should bode well for increased services at a later date perhaps summer 2010 onwards.
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Forward Bookings
Good to hear that the RYR forward takings on Canaries are strong. It's the same story at Thomson for Sharm el Sheikh, Turkey and Cyprus apparently.
It must be all those silver surfers, still plenty of money around thats for sure!
The anicilary revenue on those longer routes will keep the tills jangling I bet!
For Ryanair1 - There's still room for a Polish route at BOH
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It must be all those silver surfers, still plenty of money around thats for sure!
The anicilary revenue on those longer routes will keep the tills jangling I bet!
For Ryanair1 - There's still room for a Polish route at BOH
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Flights between Bournemouth-Milan (Bergamo)
Does anyone know y Ryanair has stopped their flights to Milan Bergamo and if they are going to introduce them again?
I really hope they will re-introduce them, as this route was pretty important to me..
I really hope they will re-introduce them, as this route was pretty important to me..
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Ryanair BOH-EDI GBP160 rtn Flybe SOU-EDI GBP256 rtn
Comparing flight prices between Ryanair 7 Oct 06:45 departure from BOH and returning 8 Oct 21:45 and Flybe's 7 Oct 06:40 departure from SOU and returning 8 Oct 21:40 is very interesting.
Flybe seems to force you to select seats, but at the same time reveals load factor information! The flight was 76% full. Ryanair doesnt do that. I found it irritating that i couldnt work out how to progress without having to pay for the seats.
Ryanair's return fares (160) including bags and priority boarding were still over 100 quid cheaper than Flybe with no priority boarding.
I found Ryanair's website more informative and transparent - telling you every step what the charges would be, but i found Flybe to be full of hidden charges, too busy and irritating.
Flybe seems to force you to select seats, but at the same time reveals load factor information! The flight was 76% full. Ryanair doesnt do that. I found it irritating that i couldnt work out how to progress without having to pay for the seats.
Ryanair's return fares (160) including bags and priority boarding were still over 100 quid cheaper than Flybe with no priority boarding.
I found Ryanair's website more informative and transparent - telling you every step what the charges would be, but i found Flybe to be full of hidden charges, too busy and irritating.
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"Flybe seems to force you to select seats"
shamrock7seal
This may be more for the flybe thread than BOH, but if you want to avoid paying for a reserved seat on the flybe booking site this is what you do:
When you get to the seating page, you are offered two options: "Choose new seats" and "Accept seats". Ignore both buttons, and just click on "Continue" below. A box then appears asking you if you want to "Continue without selecting seats" or "Accept seats". Click on the former, and you will save your money. Your seats will be automatically allocated at (online or desk) check-in.
shamrock7seal
This may be more for the flybe thread than BOH, but if you want to avoid paying for a reserved seat on the flybe booking site this is what you do:
When you get to the seating page, you are offered two options: "Choose new seats" and "Accept seats". Ignore both buttons, and just click on "Continue" below. A box then appears asking you if you want to "Continue without selecting seats" or "Accept seats". Click on the former, and you will save your money. Your seats will be automatically allocated at (online or desk) check-in.
Ryanair's return fares (160) including bags and priority boarding were still over 100 quid cheaper than Flybe with no priority boarding.
Overall, shamrock's post seems a bit too much like blatant advertising for RYR.
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I thought everybody knew that this is what they do at Ryanair HQ when they should be playing solitaire like the rest of the office based community.
They monitor this site and jump on anyone that has an anti ryanair position, if there are no adverse postings they make something up, like the advert from shamrock7seal.
I travel with Ryanair alot and most flights are half empty, with all the PAX spending nothing during the flight, how much longer can they carry on like that ? Be lucky if they last this winter !
I suppose the usual suspects will jump on this thread pretty quick !
They monitor this site and jump on anyone that has an anti ryanair position, if there are no adverse postings they make something up, like the advert from shamrock7seal.
I travel with Ryanair alot and most flights are half empty, with all the PAX spending nothing during the flight, how much longer can they carry on like that ? Be lucky if they last this winter !
I suppose the usual suspects will jump on this thread pretty quick !
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Lucky if the flying harp lasts this winter? Could you please further your statement in greater depth whilst keeping in mind the revenue management and one flight based on eye witness determine this?
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....but at the same time reveals load factor information! The flight was 76% full. Ryanair doesnt do that.
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Disappointing though was Edinburgh with about a 70 % considering no Prestwick route now
When we take these flights we will cost Ryanair money. They will still have to pay the tax and I assume the PSC at EDI and BOH.