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Old 17th Sep 2009, 13:48
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No PIK in Aug 09 which last Aug carried 16,905 pax!!
Disappointing though was Edinburgh with about a 70 % considering no Prestwick route now
I still find it hard to believe that Ryanair dropped this route not all that long after increasing it to twice daily. Another case of them getting it all wrong?
The route cries out for two flights day but probably doesn't justify a 189 seater - such a shame that someone like Air Southwest hasn't come in to fill the gap. The demand seemed to be there (nearly 17,000 pax in one month) and Ryanair surely should have been able to sustain a daily flight, with the right timings for short/weekend breaks in both directions.

The fact that the Edinburgh service is only running at 70% seems to indicate that a lot of the passengers that were travelling on the PIK service actually wanted to go to Glasgow and the Scottish West Coast or were Glaswegians travelling to the South Coast. Presumably enough of the users of the PIK service moved to the EDI when it was introduced to dilute the PIK service enough to make it unviable or was it just a coincidence with the timing of the recession?

I've used the Ryanair BOH-PIK service a few times in the past but next time I have little choice but to go to GLA with FlyBe from Southampton. I would be interested to know if the Flybe passenger numbers to GLA have increased since the withdrawal of BOH-PIK or have these journeys just stopped being made altogether?

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Old 17th Sep 2009, 14:24
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Take the long view - statistics!

Routes come and go, traffic generally shows a trend over the year or two.

Both BOH and SOU are roughly back at 2005 pax levels now, but both are still very significantly up on 2004.

Best year was 2007 for both airports, with August 2009 numbers each being 20,000 pax less than August 2007. A big drop!

Sticking with the month of August - SOU dropped 15k pax in 2008 over 2007, and BOH dropped only 6k in 2008 over 2007, but caught up this year. Which says the business traffic (SOU) slowed first, and the leisure (BOH) followed.

But the SOU traffic is now stable -does that mean the business traffic is coming back? probably yes - Look at LHR numbers.. still showing growth!

Pre 2005, BOH was usually about 30% of SOU, that changed with the LCC base. BOH is now consistently 50% of SOU.

So expect to see BOH numbers stabilize and follow the SOU trend.

Confused!?

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Old 17th Sep 2009, 21:15
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Confused? - yes very, thanks FF

Next year will be a different story when the recesion is over (or will it be a double dip) and the new terminal is open!

Just hope Ryanair's planners get the ants out of their pants and keep things settled and some other airlines come to play.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 11:58
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The reason that the BOH-PIK traffic collapsed and the BOH-EDI figures are not that good is because of the ridiculous timings of flights that RYR introduced.

It seems that people travelling to Spain, Turkey, etc don't seem to mind arriving at some ridiculous time of the day - but on an internal UK flight, the psyche seems to make that unacceptable.
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 16:26
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Ryanair Go Around

Can anyone clarify over the weekend why a Ryanair flight on finals for 08 had to abort landing and go around.
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 17:15
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If it was Sunday Afternoon - The runway had to shut for 10 minutes or so due to a light aircraft catching on fire (or smoke seen coming from it - depending on your news source).
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 18:33
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Thanks badgermanuk but no news sorse was in my front garden when happened turned right and and went round
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Forward bookings on the new Canaries services are very strong, in some instances stronger than at others from the UK. This should bode well for increased services at a later date perhaps summer 2010 onwards.
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Forward Bookings

Good to hear that the RYR forward takings on Canaries are strong. It's the same story at Thomson for Sharm el Sheikh, Turkey and Cyprus apparently.

It must be all those silver surfers, still plenty of money around thats for sure!

The anicilary revenue on those longer routes will keep the tills jangling I bet!

For Ryanair1 - There's still room for a Polish route at BOH

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Old 28th Sep 2009, 15:13
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hahn please .......
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Old 30th Sep 2009, 12:05
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Flights between Bournemouth-Milan (Bergamo)

Does anyone know y Ryanair has stopped their flights to Milan Bergamo and if they are going to introduce them again?
I really hope they will re-introduce them, as this route was pretty important to me..
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Old 6th Oct 2009, 13:00
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Ryanair BOH-EDI GBP160 rtn Flybe SOU-EDI GBP256 rtn

Comparing flight prices between Ryanair 7 Oct 06:45 departure from BOH and returning 8 Oct 21:45 and Flybe's 7 Oct 06:40 departure from SOU and returning 8 Oct 21:40 is very interesting.

Flybe seems to force you to select seats, but at the same time reveals load factor information! The flight was 76% full. Ryanair doesnt do that. I found it irritating that i couldnt work out how to progress without having to pay for the seats.

Ryanair's return fares (160) including bags and priority boarding were still over 100 quid cheaper than Flybe with no priority boarding.

I found Ryanair's website more informative and transparent - telling you every step what the charges would be, but i found Flybe to be full of hidden charges, too busy and irritating.
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Old 6th Oct 2009, 17:04
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RYANAIR

Good for the People of Bournemouth Good For the Travelling Public, Good for Ryanair, More Routes Please
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Old 6th Oct 2009, 19:49
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"Flybe seems to force you to select seats"

shamrock7seal

This may be more for the flybe thread than BOH, but if you want to avoid paying for a reserved seat on the flybe booking site this is what you do:

When you get to the seating page, you are offered two options: "Choose new seats" and "Accept seats". Ignore both buttons, and just click on "Continue" below. A box then appears asking you if you want to "Continue without selecting seats" or "Accept seats". Click on the former, and you will save your money. Your seats will be automatically allocated at (online or desk) check-in.
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 09:34
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Ryanair's return fares (160) including bags and priority boarding were still over 100 quid cheaper than Flybe with no priority boarding.
As Flybe allocate seats (either in selected in advance or at check-in) there is no need for "priority boarding" - there is no mad dash for seats - everyone already knows where they are sitting!!

Overall, shamrock's post seems a bit too much like blatant advertising for RYR.
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 11:35
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I thought everybody knew that this is what they do at Ryanair HQ when they should be playing solitaire like the rest of the office based community.

They monitor this site and jump on anyone that has an anti ryanair position, if there are no adverse postings they make something up, like the advert from shamrock7seal.

I travel with Ryanair alot and most flights are half empty, with all the PAX spending nothing during the flight, how much longer can they carry on like that ? Be lucky if they last this winter !

I suppose the usual suspects will jump on this thread pretty quick !
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 13:03
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Lucky if the flying harp lasts this winter? Could you please further your statement in greater depth whilst keeping in mind the revenue management and one flight based on eye witness determine this?
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Old 8th Oct 2009, 23:11
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Originally Posted by DILLTHEDOG
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I travel with Ryanair alot and most flights are half empty
No they are not - they are half full

Be lucky if they last this winter !
Well, they lasted last winter and I suspect they will last many more. Which is great for everyone in the Bournemouth area.
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 14:34
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....but at the same time reveals load factor information! The flight was 76% full. Ryanair doesnt do that.
That's bollocks I'm afraid. As the Q400 is very trim sensitive FlyBe only release certain seats for pre-allocation before opening up more at check-in; depending on load factor. Having made 48 flights on BE this year alone and checked-in on-line for every one of them, I can assure you the seat map has no relation to load factor.
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Disappointing though was Edinburgh with about a 70 % considering no Prestwick route now
Even at that load factor how many people had paid next to nothing for their flight? My wife and I have several upcoming flights that have been booked with Visa Electron and we will have handbaggage only. The flights have cost us between £1 and £3 each way. On one booking we have purchased extra tickets a day each side in case we decide to come home early or leave a day later.

When we take these flights we will cost Ryanair money. They will still have to pay the tax and I assume the PSC at EDI and BOH.
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