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Old 28th Sep 2018, 00:01
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Originally Posted by TheAirMission View Post
Friend of mine, <2000 hours, no unfrozen ATPL.. airbus TR. Straight on the 777
Need the ATPL by end of TR course though so must have all the requirements met before starting the course.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 12:29
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Originally Posted by Stocious View Post
Need the ATPL by end of TR course though so must have all the requirements met before starting the course.
meaning the 1500 hours TT inclusive of x, y & z etc etc?
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 17:38
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Originally Posted by reeko View Post


meaning the 1500 hours TT inclusive of x, y & z etc etc?
Yes, the ATPL skills test will be done during the TR course LST, with a requirement to apply for it as soon as possible after. Otherwise they can't do APIC duties.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 12:28
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Guys, how much do the verbal reasoning and TCAS test on latestpilotjobs reflect regarding the real test at Waterside? The verbal test seems to be a 100% miss..
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 12:46
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Good friend,Sim early September,positive result to hold pool,A320 rated.Posted 777 Jan
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 12:47
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Originally Posted by Phantom4 View Post
Good friend,Sim early September,positive result to hold pool,A320 rated.Posted 777 Jan
What was his experience total?
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 13:01
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Direct Entry Pilot - First Officer has opened again today.

"To apply to this campaign you must have a valid type rating with a minimum of 500 hours or 100 sectors on type."
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 13:14
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captain weird, She has 1500hrs
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 08:28
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What is the BA shorthaul roster from LGW like in terms of nights at home and days off? Is there a lot of 3 sector days with layovers elsewhere, or is it mainly there and backs like FR/EZY?
Thanks
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 09:08
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I'm not LGW based, but i believe they only have 3 night stops at the base, EDI/GLA and JER so lots of daytrips, gatwick has more flexible hours than LHR so some flights do get back at 0200 or so...
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 17:04
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Essentially itís EZY in blue. Preference based rostering. 58.8k starting salary and pay is capped at year 10 but the increments are different to the 34 point scale at LHR too. You earn a little more basic pay but overall less than at LHR because the allowances are less. Thatís my take on it but I am LHR
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 17:45
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Anyone know how long applications are open for ? I canít see it on the website.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 19:35
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Bex - Think the 34 PP scale has different salary caps to the 24PP scale...
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 19:57
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Essentially itís EZY in blue
Does that apply, if one achieves a command after a few years?
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 20:25
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Originally Posted by bex88 View Post
Essentially itís EZY in blue.
A significant over simplification in my opinion.

I worked at EZY for 5 years, then spent my first 3 years in BA based down at LGW (leaving there not very long ago).

Some differences -

1. BA workload is much quieter during the winter than EZY. My highest annual hours were around 700. Easyjet was 800-900 each year.

2 True that nightstop destinations are limited, but lots of decent length layover times in the town centres rather than minimum rest at airport hotels. Decent amount of clear days off in EDI or GLA should that be your thing. I loved them.

3. Small base so you know everyone and so enjoy the friendly atmosphere that goes with it, which is not the case at the massive LGW easyjet base.

4. The knowledge that if you donít enjoy it, or begin to lose your enjoyment of it, then you can move to LHR or long haul rather than being relatively trapped in the job at EZY.

5. Significantly lower number of 4 sector days.

6. Tastier crew food IMHO. Certainly healthier.

Donít get me wrong, Iím not trying to slag off easyjet. There are plenty of plus points to working there.

Just trying to help people from avoiding the trap of not moving airlines because they took it at face value when someone said that BA at LGW is just EZY in blue. There are similarities but there are significant differences too.

Hope that helps anyone considering the move.
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 00:21
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Originally Posted by bex88 View Post
Essentially itís EZY in blue.
Rubbish - I don't regret leaving easyJet for BA. It wasn't everything I imagines but perhaps I was being a bit naive. I feel like I'm treated as a professional at BA, and I'm no longer treated like a child by my management.

If you're flying an A320 at LGW for easyJet what have you got to lose by applying for BA at LGW? You can essentially carry on doing the same job whilst you build up seniority to make a move over to long haul if thats something you fancy doing, if you get in quick you'll probably get a command sooner at BA (I have heard C32X is down to the 4000's this year).
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 07:57
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Originally Posted by student88 View Post
If you're flying an A320 at LGW for easyJet what have you got to lose by applying for BA at LGW?
Money, you lose money. Managementís attitude to FOs is slowly shifting as well. About time too.
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 12:14
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Originally Posted by EllanVannin View Post


A significant over simplification in my opinion.

I worked at EZY for 5 years, then spent my first 3 years in BA based down at LGW (leaving there not very long ago).

Some differences -

1. BA workload is much quieter during the winter than EZY. My highest annual hours were around 700. Easyjet was 800-900 each year.

2 True that nightstop destinations are limited, but lots of decent length layover times in the town centres rather than minimum rest at airport hotels. Decent amount of clear days off in EDI or GLA should that be your thing. I loved them.

3. Small base so you know everyone and so enjoy the friendly atmosphere that goes with it, which is not the case at the massive LGW easyjet base.

4. The knowledge that if you donít enjoy it, or begin to lose your enjoyment of it, then you can move to LHR or long haul rather than being relatively trapped in the job at EZY.

5. Significantly lower number of 4 sector days.

6. Tastier crew food IMHO. Certainly healthier.

Donít get me wrong, Iím not trying to slag off easyjet. There are plenty of plus points to working there.

Just trying to help people from avoiding the trap of not moving airlines because they took it at face value when someone said that BA at LGW is just EZY in blue. There are similarities but there are significant differences too.

Hope that helps anyone considering the move.
Thanks for all the info, Iíd actually prefer minimum time away, how often were you generally doing nightstops each month?

Thanks to all others that replied as well! Does anyone know what the chances are of getting short haul if currently Boeing rated? Are you able to specify a preference and do they take this into consideration? I just have the sim check part of the interview to do now.
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 13:10
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From what I was told, if you ask for 320 LGW, youíll get it.
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 13:35
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You can apply directly to LGW as they have split the applications, but need 500 hours on A320 or A330.
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