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NutLoose 1st Apr 2022 21:17


Originally Posted by macmp419 (Post 11209337)
As far from my area of expertise as you could get, but the nonchalant way they are being moved by operators with hands in pockets tells me you are correct.

You still would not catch me trying it though 🤪

They are designed for vehicles like tanks, so the weight of a person will not set them off

DaveReidUK 1st Apr 2022 21:32


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11209318)
- their equipment is in some cases from the 19th century

That's very hard to believe - can you give any examples ?

SnowFella 1st Apr 2022 22:40


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11209346)
They are designed for vehicles like tanks, so the weight of a person will not set them off

Unless they have had anti-tamper devices fitted that is. Kick one of them and you will rather rapidly find yourself part of the scenery.

tartare 2nd Apr 2022 00:03

Details on the Hind `raid' on Belgorod are getting murkier.
Ukraine first neither confirming nor denying - and now saying it wasn't them.
Much chatter relating to a false flag pretext - and linked to Russian withdrawals around Kiev.

HOVIS 2nd Apr 2022 00:09


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11209339)
Jesus, everyone should watch this… there is no words that even come close.

https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/sta...85789404459011

BBC report now showing a highway with burnt bodies of civilians strewn across the road. Utterly despicable!

tonker 2nd Apr 2022 00:14

First Starstreak kill?
 
I’ll just post the video and you make of it what you will. Do you see the darts just before impact?

https://fb.watch/c7jC85ZDXp/

MAINJAFAD 2nd Apr 2022 00:32


Originally Posted by tonker (Post 11209392)
I’ll just post the video and you make of it what you will. Do you see the darts just before impact?

https://fb.watch/c7jC85ZDXp/

Yep, I was thinking that as well. Several UK Newspapers claiming that MOD sources are confirming the claim.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2049409.html

NutLoose 2nd Apr 2022 01:27

Close up view…

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...o_is_a_repost/


Putting the U.K. in UKraine..

Beamr 2nd Apr 2022 05:10


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11209349)
That's very hard to believe - can you give any examples ?

yes sir, see post 3790

https://www.pprune.org/11208896-post3790.html

DaveReidUK 2nd Apr 2022 06:48


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11209434)
yes sir, see post 3790

I think you're getting your 19th and 20th centuries mixed up ...

Beamr 2nd Apr 2022 07:02


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11209449)
I think you're getting your 19th and 20th centuries mixed up ...

not really, the Mosin-Nagant M91/30 was designed in 1891..
the Russian army used it from 1891 till 1917, and soviet army till the 60's. Must say that I had no idea they had saved the stocks and are really using them in 2022.

FlightDetent 2nd Apr 2022 07:08


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11209453)
not really, the Mosin-Nagant M91/30 was designed in 1891..

DRUK is besides his usual self. I just managed to research that with Bing. :)

rattman 2nd Apr 2022 07:19


Originally Posted by FlightDetent (Post 11209454)
DRUK is besides his usual self. I just managed to research that with Bing. :)

and the maxim that has been spotted on a tuk tuk was 1884

DaveReidUK 2nd Apr 2022 08:12

DRUK stands corrected. :\

Asturias56 2nd Apr 2022 08:32

I see that "UK Cabinet sources" are encouraging Ukrainians to "fight on and not cut a deal"

Surely this should be left to the Ukrainian Govt. They and the Russian are the only people who can decide what and what is not acceptable to end this conflict?

Not someone cheering them on from the cheap seats.

jolihokistix 2nd Apr 2022 08:35

‘Cheap seats’ is a cheap shot, aimed at someone supplying super modern weapons, like repainted white vans for ambulances.

Asturias56 2nd Apr 2022 08:37


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 11209492)
‘Cheap seats’ is a cheap shot, aimed at someone supplying super modern weapons, like repainted white vans for ambulances.

and of course welcoming refugees with open arms as long as they can provide utility bills with proof of address, translated into English and certified as a "true copy".................

Beamr 2nd Apr 2022 08:42


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11209458)
and the maxim that has been spotted on a tuk tuk was 1884

Hadn't seen that yet, thanks for the hint!
So they've already used maxims on tuk tuks, M91/30's and AN-2 biplanes, whats next, an ironclad in the black sea?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6b8e242223.png


rattman 2nd Apr 2022 08:46


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11209499)
Hadn't seen that yet, thanks for the hint!
So they've already used maxims on tuk tuks, M91/30's and AN-2 biplanes, whats next, an ironclad in the black sea?

You forgot about the armored train

Assuming we can take a guess as to why Object 279 was taken out for a test run

Beamr 2nd Apr 2022 09:08


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11209501)
You forgot about the armored train

Assuming we can take a guess as to why Object 279 was taken out for a test run

Ah yes, the armored train, forgot that.
It is only reasonable to fire up the Object 279's as the Ukrainian spring is coming and it does have double the tracks so there is hope it will not get stuck in the mud.

Imagine going to a battle in a C47, equipped with Lee-Enfields, supported by Vickers guns and a Railway Howitzer Mk I. Rather demoralizing for the troops.


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