Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11206478)
Cannot believe that the Russian main effort would continue to be Kiev, one bloody nose is surely enough.
Rather agree that they are likely to reinforce their drive around the eastern edge of Ukraine. There they are making headway and appear to have trapped part of the Ukrainian forces in the north east, as indicated by the French situation reports .https://www.defense.gouv.fr/ukraine-point-situation |
Originally Posted by Sts121
(Post 11205733)
I wonder what the west or nato would actually do should Putin drop a small tactical nuke on some Ukrainian city?
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Originally Posted by Old-Duffer
(Post 11206310)
It would make an interesting situation, if the Poles started to hold 'exercises' near Kalinagrad: nothing too 'hot' but sufficiently warm enough to see what Putin does.
Old Duffer |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11206503)
I would imagine it’s tying down Ukrainian forces from reinforcing elsewhere, plus those troops that have come in from Belarus etc which would mean it would be difficult to redeploy them to where needed without retreating, possible reason why they are simply digging in?
There was a decent rail link between Kiev and Donetsk, would expect that both sides have plans for it. |
This is seriously bad news for all of us.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11206516)
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/.../chernobyl/ext |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11206522)
Winds for the first 2 days will blow any isotopes towards Russia. Then rain and snow for the next few days
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/.../chernobyl/ext |
Which prevailing winds are these please: the surface wind forecasts, if to be believed, are just above light and variable and as likely to blow low level contaminants backwards and forwards, depending on the time scale studied.
However, what really matters is high level winds and precipitation. |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11206605)
Which prevailing winds are these please: the surface wind forecasts, if to be believed, are just above light and variable and as likely to blow low level contaminants backwards and forwards, depending on the time scale studied.
However, what really matters is high level winds and precipitation. Edit to add, 10,000 hectares went up in flames in 2020. It did not seem to cause a major incident. |
Willingness to Negotiate
I’m sorry to see the items Ukraine is willing to negotiate (e.g., Donbas and neutrality) but I totally understand considering the horrendous loss of life and limits of support by the west.
Zelensky is a true shepherd of his people. |
Originally Posted by GlobalNav
(Post 11206644)
I’m sorry to see the items Ukraine is willing to negotiate (e.g., Donbas and neutrality) but I totally understand considering the horrendous loss of life and limits of support by the west.
Zelensky is a true shepherd of his people. Second, he said that he is willing to "discuss" neutrality and solutions for Donbas, politic speak for implying but not committing to anything. Thirdly, that it would have to be approved by a referendum of the Ukrainian people who are in no mood to conceed their land to Russia despite what they are enduring, makes me think "Not a chance" |
Agreed but isn’t that subject to a referendum of the people?
I do think it will be an error to give up their land. I see Turkey is trying to negotiate a ceasefire, that could be a bad thing in allowing Russia to reorganise and resupply. |
Russians lost three planes last night north of Kiev alone,
"The situation escalated closer to 22:00 as air alerts roared across the country! The Russian occupiers carried out a massive air raid from the north of Kyiv region, where they lost three planes at once. The occupiers fired cruise missiles on several Ukrainian infrastructure facilities. Two missiles were shot down by air defense units," the Air Force Command added. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...-missiles.html |
If there really was so much forest burning I am pretty sure it would show on FIRMS https://[email protected],51.3,13z
Cannot see amything except a few smallish fires 6 days ago. |
Surely they’ve smashed up enough of Ukraine by now? I think most reasonable people can see they have made their point. This is getting boring. Even out of sheer frustration is there any need to keep continuing this destruction?
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I'm with Nutty on the error of ceding land.
This is worth a read: https://coffeeordie.com/ukrainian-mi...lot-interview/ |
Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 11206705)
Surely they’ve smashed up enough of Ukraine by now? I think most reasonable people can see they have made their point. This is getting boring. Even out of sheer frustration is there any need to keep continuing this destruction?
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Jolihokistix
I have to say that I am disappointed by the uncharacteristic insouciance of your post. One can only hope that it is the purest irony. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 11206738)
Nope, they still want it all. Ignore recent announcements regarding focusing on the Donbas.
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I personally think a ceasefire would be a bad thing, Russia is on its backfoot, it is lacking supplies, fuel, arms and moral, having a ceasefire would allow reinforcements to be brought up and troops resupplied, something that would be of benefit of them but to the detriment of the Ukrainians. I also feel sanctions should remain in place until the whole of the Ukraine is regained and reparations are made.. I also think it is a Russian bluff and they have no intention in stopping until the Country is taken.
I also think handing over territory would be a bad thing as well, you would be handing over what appears to be their main sea ports, lots of their industrial infrastructure and potential gas and oil fields in the region, as well their nuclear power plants.. I was watching MSNBC news last night and the retired US General and ex high ranking Government offical was saying we should be arming the Ukraine to the teeth, and that included M1 Tanks. The trouble I see is keeping it on the front pages and support going for Ukraine, jolihokistix post is an example of what might happen. |
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