Originally Posted by tartare
(Post 11208910)
Ukraine Mil-24s taking the fight to Russia:
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1509763703901761556 Video of a rocket strike on Belgorod oil depot, 40 kms over the border. Do we know how many the UAF started with and how they have left. |
Originally Posted by Usertim
(Post 11208978)
I don't think we have any soviet era equipment to donate lol. I envisioned it as probably meaning cougar etc mraps left over from afghanistan , similar to australia which has stated they will provide Bushmaster IFVs. Idk about artillery though.
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11208984)
Just two Hinds, unsupported. That seems frightfully brave.
Do we know how many the UAF started with and how they have left. Huge balls on those two crews if it's proven to be a UAF raid and not some perverse Russian false flag attack. Video here of them leaving the scene: |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11208984)
Just two Hinds, unsupported. That seems frightfully brave.
Do we know how many the UAF started with and how they have left. Lol. The biggest complaints among the Belgorod residents on social media: 1. Where did they get the helicopters? They told us UA lost all of their helicopters in the first six hours. 2. Why were those helicopters allowed to fly in and not shot? |
Originally Posted by tartare
(Post 11209009)
Huge balls on those two crews if it's proven to be a UAF raid and not some perverse Russian false flag attack.
Ukraine gets a great (propaganda) success on this; Russian fuel reserves blown up, Russian civilians start to feel the war, the Russian regrouping just had a set back and Putin's going mad. Göring announced that he could be called Meyer if a single bomb is dropped in Germany, what should we call Putin now? |
In a world of dreams and speculation one would hope the raid was coordinated by intelligence across the borders.
You come here and take down a legitimate military target to choke the ongoing invasion but avoid any collateral damage. We let you do what needs to be done and help us create an excuse to pull our men and sons back. Hoping for the survival instinct of the Russians to surface... What is worse, getting shot at or having to kill your own half-bloodline for Kremlin madman's desire? Those guys are having a hefty dose of both. |
Also another possibility
ArianaGic/Аріянॳць @GicAriana · Peskov now says "no comfortable conditions for continuing negotiations". Because of Belgorod. After 5 weeks of war, huge destructions and over 10K Ukrainians killed in their own country, Russia now says that their feelings were hurt by loosing a bit of fuel in #Belgorod? Really? GOOD MORNING MOSCOW, Sucks to be RU. The heroes of Ukraine just made a major April Fool’s out of Vladimir Putin. He looks like the biggest fool in history right now. The sun is rising in Belgorod to this disaster for the Russian military. |
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11209025)
Also another possibility
I cannot be the only one wondering whether the attack being attributed to Ukraine in Belgorod, Russia isn’t a Russian false flag attack on itself as a pretext to launch another (possibly even nuclear) attack on Ukraine in the name of defending “Russian national security”. Looks to me that Ukraine is saying to Russia: "Okay, you've said you're pulling back but are still striking targets in rear areas. We're prepared to do likewise." No coincidence that Russia struck an oil terminal near Lviv a few days ago. Another thought - given the withdrawal is intended to enable Russia to strengthen their push in the Donbas, perhaps the canny Ukrainians are playing double bluff i.e. making Russia think twice about diverting too much resource elsewhere? |
Or we are struggling to stop you refuelling your vehicles and rearming them in the area as we are burning through anti tank weapons to kill them, so we have taken out your fuel and ammunition supplies at source thus in effect cutting them off temporarily. It also means Russia will have to beef up their defence along their border to prevent it happening again, thus taking out more manpower and resources they can't use elsewhere and possibly will have to move their supply efforts even further back from the border and hence the front line..
I am surprised with the withdrawls around Kyiv and the possibility of the movement of equipment back through Belarus and into Russia to aid the south that they haven't dropped the odd rail bridge in Russia along the Belarus border. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11209025)
Also another possibility
EDIT: Just seen dead-pan's post "Another thought - given the withdrawal is intended to enable Russia to strengthen their push in the Donbas, perhaps the canny Ukrainians are playing double bluff i.e. making Russia think twice about diverting too much resource elsewhere?" Just too many possibilities to judge/juggle . It becomes a good guessing game for us, but we can't have any firm answers to the many questions/what if's ? |
That’s one way of doing it :sad:
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Do those numbers include the vehicles they used at Chernobyl? They will be heavily contaminated and unusable, unless the Russians deployed decontamination gear, which seems unlikely.
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
(Post 11209071)
Do those numbers include the vehicles they used at Chernobyl? They will be heavily contaminated and unusable, unless the Russians deployed decontamination gear, which seems unlikely.
Some of the muppets are reported as digging trenches to defend the area! Specialists from the Russian military who are trained in dealing with radiation did not arrive at the site until about a week after Russian troops arrived, the workers said. They said the Russian specialists did not wear protective gear either. One of the employees said he had spoken to some of the rank-and-file Russian soldiers at the plant. "When they were asked if they knew about the 1986 catastrophe, the explosion of the fourth block (of the Chernobyl plant), they did not have a clue. They had no idea what kind of a facility they were at," he said. "We talked to regular soldiers. All we heard from them was 'It's critically important infrastructure'. That was it," the man said. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11209085)
Read my full post 3775!
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Ahh I got you, I don't know, you would assume they are not that stupid not too decontaminate them, but then they were stupid enough to enter in the first place.
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I believe that effective decontamination of machinery is virtually impossible, which is why there is a shed-load of stuff parked up at Chernobyl.
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The Poles, Slovaks, Romanians, Hungarians and Moldovans must be champing at the bit to be allowed to join in and rid themselves of the Russian threat. That way Putin can be forced back to his own borders, freeing up the whole of Ukraine.
Simply doing nothing and watching people get bombed into nothingness just doesn't sit well - the European leaders need to grow a pair. Are we going to run scared every time Russia mentions the N word or call their bluff? Money rules the world and you can't spend it in a nuclear wasteland - Vlad maybe mad but I don't think he is that crazy - there are no winners in an all out nuke-fest. |
Film released today of Russian armour attacked as they retreat, the last bit looks like the tank behind finishes off the one in front that has been hit by a missile from the side of the road he has just past!
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Originally Posted by Sue Vêtements
(Post 11209132)
you need to add
1 Fuel Depot I wondered the same thing, but if it was they'd have probably shot down the helicopters as well to save face |
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