Is Ukraine about to have a war?

[melmothtw]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

A hit YPR765 appears to carry on burning possibly to give the rest of the column a protective smokescreen. If true that takes balls.



https://twitter.com/Military_oO/stat...11562158964737

"If true..."

Shades of 'he stuck with the plane to avoid crashing into the school/nursery/orphanage' there, Nutloose. More likely not thinking of anyone or anything else other than his own self-preservation at that point, and was just trying to clear himself from the danger area. That the smoke from his burning vehicle obscured his comrades was little more than a happy happenstance, I'd suggest.

[Lonewolf_50]

Originally Posted by melmothtw

"If true..."

Shades of 'he stuck with the plane to avoid crashing into the school/nursery/orphanage' there, Nutloose. More likely not thinking of anyone or anything else other than his own self-preservation at that point, and was just trying to clear himself from the danger area with the smoke from his burning vehicle obscuring his comrades being little more than happenstance.

(My underline) And in due course doubtless getting out of a burning vehicle.

[MPN11]

I concur ... let's not turn all Ukranians into SuperHeroes.

Even though many of them undoubtedly are.

[melmothtw]

Originally Posted by MPN11

I concur ... let's not turn all Ukranians into SuperHeroes.

Even though many of them undoubtedly are.

Yep, they don't need us to exaggerate their achievements when their bravery and success on the battlefield is self evident.

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by Rockie_Rapier

Does anyone have anything further on the affect of sanctions on the opertional capability of the likes of Aeroflot with their fleets of A320 etc?

Its been a while now and Flight Radar shows plenty of Aeroflot operated flights still. Or are these simply carrying large number of deficiences?

Some discussion of the topic here: Aeroflot - Rejig - PPRuNe Forums

[Piper_Driver]

Regarding Nordstream - is it possible that a cyber attack could have taken it out by manipulating the pumps and valves?

[petit plateau]

Originally Posted by Piper_Driver

Regarding Nordstream - is it possible that a cyber attack could have taken it out by manipulating the pumps and valves?

Not like this.

[NutLoose]

Likewise could Germany not open their valves letting the gas escape into their tanks, reducing the pressure and letting it flood?

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Regarding Nordstream - is it possible that a cyber attack could have taken it out by manipulating the pumps and valves?

Seismologists reported activity consistent with explosions which I'm sure have very particular signatures.

[pasta]

Originally Posted by Piper_Driver

Regarding Nordstream - is it possible that a cyber attack could have taken it out by manipulating the pumps and valves?

Only by manipulating pumps and valves on the vessel/craft/device that attached explosives to the pipes.

[Chu Chu]

Many pipelines have “pigs” that run through them for cleaning and other purposes. If this was an inside job, it could have been an inside job.

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by Chu Chu

Many pipelines have “pigs” that run through them for cleaning and other purposes. If this was an inside job, it could have been an inside job.

Discounted in the Jetblast thread, on account of there being no appreciable gas flow, without which the pig isn't going anywhere.

[Chu Chu]

Originally Posted by DaveReidUK

Discounted in the Jetblast thread, on account of there being no appreciable gas flow, without which the pig isn't going anywhere.

Unless it was in place when they stopped the music.

[uxb99]

If a sub or sub type device was detected near the pipes, could it be legitimately sunk?

[Ninthace]

Originally Posted by uxb99

If a sub or sub type device was detected near the pipes, could it be legitimately sunk?

Not without a reason and location would not be enough, in fact even being caught in the middle of an act of sabotage probably would not be sufficient. ROE are quite tricky things especially outside conflict zones.

[Beamr]

Originally Posted by Chu Chu

Unless it was in place when they stopped the music.

there was no sufficient pressure in NS2 to begin with according to reports.

[petit plateau]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

Likewise could Germany not open their valves letting the gas escape into their tanks, reducing the pressure and letting it flood?

Sort of but not really. Best thing for Germany to do is to keep the valves at the southern end closed. That way as much as possible of the line remains gas filled at a very low pressure once this has blown down.

All the people wailing about the damage that will be caused if the line becomes full of salt water are way ahead of themselves. Short term it really doesn't matter if the line becomes full of uninhibited sea water, provided that there is no flow of thay water in the line. But better if it was gas full at low pressure which is the natural outcome in the do-nothing state.

[T28B]

At this point, I will ask you all to continue further discussion of the Nordstream's function (as fascinating as they are to a layman like myself) to the Jet Blast thread.
We've covered the military and / or aviation related aspect of this development sufficiently for our purposes here.
Thank you all in advance.
T28B

[NutLoose]

A face says it all, Scared fartless but also relieved, I wish I knew what they are saying.

https://twitter.com/m2p_studio/statu...46769600987147

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[uxb99]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

A face says it all, Scared fartless but also relieved, I wish I know what they are saying.



https://twitter.com/m2p_studio/statu...46769600987147

What is the point of rushing ill trained and poorly motivated troops to the front line?
Is the front that close to collapse that it warrants such drastic matters.
If that was me, I would be looking at the first opportunity to run away and surrender.