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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

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Old 19th May 2022, 16:16
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Holy Sh*t!!
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Old 19th May 2022, 17:29
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The latest sanctions have nothing to do with who owns Aeroflot's aircraft.
maybe not but stopping them using or selling their landing slots at LHR is a pretty pathetic sanction
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Old 19th May 2022, 18:52
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Ukrainians may be having a surprise ally, climate.

Siberia is burning, there are already 4000 wildfires reported this year and there's forecast of up to 30 degrees celsius heat waves coming up that will worsen the situation. The fires are reported to be reaching a scale in which the civilian fire fighting capacity can't manage.

In previous years the army has been the biggest contributor in fighting the fires but now the military is sent abroad and may have to be called back for fire fighting. Putin may be facing a situation where he needs to decide which is worse for his regime: uncontrolled forest fires in unprecedented scale or defeat in Ukraine.

Moscow times has some photos of the fires going on and quoting Putin that last years situation must not repeat (largest wildfires in recorded history). But this season the military is pre-occupied elsewhere...

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...-photos-a77647
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Are they Russian or Ukraine tanks?
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Old 19th May 2022, 19:12
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Originally Posted by HOVIS
Are they Russian or Ukraine tanks?
the " O" markings suggest those are Russian.
Apparently the mechanised battalion that didn't make it cross the river.
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Old 19th May 2022, 20:00
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Apparently the mechanised battalion that didn't make it cross the river.
Agreed Beamr those images have been doing the rounds for a few days from that RF farce.

No idea how accurate this is. If there is any truth in it, I can only assume that “O” refers to RF forces that crossed into Ukraine from the puppet state?



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Is Christmas about to come early?

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Old 19th May 2022, 21:44
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Posted earlier in Jet Blast, and worthy of an hour or so of your time.

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/inde...8-bcccde927d06

Are they finally now going to get it?

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Another failed Russian river crossing.

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Old 19th May 2022, 22:39
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More from the earlier failed crossing that BlankBox posted.


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Old 20th May 2022, 07:28
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Originally Posted by macmp419
Agreed Beamr those images have been doing the rounds for a few days from that RF farce.

No idea how accurate this is. If there is any truth in it, I can only assume that “O” refers to RF forces that crossed into Ukraine from the puppet state?
I've seen limited evidence for these tactical markings so far apart from Z and V, but co-incidentally saw some shots on TV this morning of Tigr-M in Donbas carrying the 'O' marking, and a not very military looking car carrying a Russian flag and the 'Z in a square'.
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Rolled up thread on Russian tank reserves.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...355366912.html
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https://archive.ph/2022.05.19-230449...xecutions.html

New Evidence Shows How Russian Soldiers Executed Men in Bucha
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“Russian troops have begun operating at a company scale rather than at the level of a BTG to focus on seizing specific villages in Donbas, according to US officials…

A pro-Russian military Telegram channel criticized the current Russian strategy, claiming that Russian forces are hitting a “strategic dead end” and are suffering significant losses trying to slowly capture small villages in different directions.”…
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A change in tactics for the better or simply no longer have the manpower or resources to do large scale attacks?

You have to be screwed when even a bunch of folks watching it pan out on their PC are telling you that you are doing it all wrong.
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Old 20th May 2022, 09:06
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Originally Posted by macmp419
Posted earlier in Jet Blast, and worthy of an hour or so of your time.

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/inde...8-bcccde927d06

Are they finally now going to get it?
I vote the general for next PM. What a guy.
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Old 20th May 2022, 09:19
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https://theglobalherald.com/news/ukr...in-the-donbas/

Nuff said.




Totally agree with htis assesment

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/05/19...-military-aid/

Russia is approaching the limits of the combat-capable manpower it can make available for the war in the short term. It has committed a significant portion of its combat-capable units to Ukraine and has suffered major losses. Troops have been pulled from every possible direction: private military contractors redeployed, recruits ginned up from Syria, and locals in occupied areas forcefully conscripted. Few options remain.

It would take Putin months to put new, usable combat troops into Ukraine. Once rejuvenated, however, Russian military progress in Ukraine could look very different if it attacks from its current lines, compared with its starting positions from February. Meanwhile, in the months or years leading up to that renewed offensive, Russia’s presence in the southeast would impose a perpetual burden on Ukraine to defend this vast front line.

While Russian forces have begun to entrench defensively in the east and south, they are concurrently still trying to advance. The West must help the Ukrainians get a broader counteroffensive underway before Russia transitions to a coherent and planned defense, which it has not yet done.

The longer Russia is allowed to stay, the costlier it becomes to drive it out. Time also gives Putin an opportunity to adapt the Russian people to the idea of a long war and put the Russian economy on a wartime footing.

The West’s attention is focused on Russia’s war in Ukraine, but this Western attention is not a constant nor a given. Putin has achieved some of his advances over the past 20 years simply by outlasting the West in the information space. The West should provide Ukraine with weapons at the pace and scale that matches the requirement of a Ukrainian campaign to expel Russian forces and liberate its people and land.

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Old 20th May 2022, 10:01
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The West’s attention is focused on Russia’s war in Ukraine, but this Western attention is not a constant nor a given. Putin has achieved some of his advances over the past 20 years simply by outlasting the West in the information space. The West should provide Ukraine with weapons at the pace and scale that matches the requirement of a Ukrainian campaign to expel Russian forces and liberate its people and land.
Except that the 'advances' Putin has made over the past 20 years have predominantly been in Russia's backyard (Chechnya, Georgia) or in places the West had effectively written off (Syria) - not much to crow about in the grand scheme. They've certainly made some advances in the West if you count nice houses, yachts etc, but all of these are now for nowt - they'll never their likes any time soon if at all, at least until the Ukraine issue is solved to the West's liking (reparations and all).

I do hope they think their (now) incremental gains in the Donbas are worth the cost to their military, economy, international reputation, long-term prospects as a nation etc etc.
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Old 20th May 2022, 10:50
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Plus they probably had a view of walking into a thriving productive area, then promptly destroyed anything of value. meaning if they manage to hold onto anything it will cost them years and billions of dollars before they see a red cent... pun intended, out of the place. I bet they will provide didly squat to improve the regions.
Just like the people of Kherson who were pro'ish Russia in places are finding out, lack of fuel and drugs meaning those that were pro Russia are rapidly turning..

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Old 20th May 2022, 11:05
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Just like the people of Kherson who were pro'ish Russia in places are finding out, lack of fuel and drugs meaning those that were pro Russia are rapidly turning..
Add to that the fact that any male of fighting age who had pro-Russian sympathies has been drafted into the military ("you wanted to be part of Russia - now go fight for the Motherland!"). Honestly, what a bunch of dimwits - what they think would happen?? Zero sympathy from me.
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