Is Ukraine about to have a war?
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Ukrainian Mi 17 operating at low low levels.
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Sadly I am doubting this one Nutloose.
That bridge ( and river) is south of what I understand to be the current frontline by some km ( though I am geograpically challenged). So either the RF has a lot more territory in that little area than we saw published, or perhaps the russians blew the bridge with UA train on it to prevent reinforcements going north of the river, and video\pics are UA propoganda spin.
I cant imagine the OSINT is so far behind that RF is sending rail freight over a bridge that is supposedly in UAF hands still.
Please put me right if I have misunderstood something.
That bridge ( and river) is south of what I understand to be the current frontline by some km ( though I am geograpically challenged). So either the RF has a lot more territory in that little area than we saw published, or perhaps the russians blew the bridge with UA train on it to prevent reinforcements going north of the river, and video\pics are UA propoganda spin.
I cant imagine the OSINT is so far behind that RF is sending rail freight over a bridge that is supposedly in UAF hands still.
Please put me right if I have misunderstood something.
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Here is an irony for you, Russia sold MI 17 to the USA to supply to Afghanistan, but the USA has now supplied them to Ukraine and Russia is complaining that it is a breach of contract, more details here.
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/3...ne-with-mi-17s
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/3...ne-with-mi-17s
The Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) issued a protest in response to a US announcement that a shipment of Mil Mi-17 helicopters will be sent to Ukraine.
On April 13, 2022, the US Department of Defense announced that its $800 million military aid package to Ukraine will include 11 Mi-17 transport helicopters. The aircraft were previously purchased for Afghanistan.
Some reports indicate that the transfer had been planned as early as January 2022, before the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
“Russian FSVTS expresses a protest in regards to any illegal transfer of armaments and military equipment of Russian (Soviet) origin, including helicopters, supplied by Rosoboronexport in a large contract with Pentagon, signed in 2011, to Ukraine,” FSVTS said in a statement published on April 27, 2022.
According to FSVTS, the contract and the user agreement, a copy of which was attached to the statement, states that the helicopters are intended for transfer to the Afghan Armed Forces and cannot be reexported or transferred to any third party without the agreement of the Russian Federation.
The service said such a “voluntaristic decision” contradicts the foundations of international law and the state of other Russian-American contracts.
“The fact that Pentagon officials admit being unable to control further movements of the armaments Americans supplied to Ukraine, meaning – to prevent its uncontrolled transfer to third parties, only aggravates the already intensified the threat of terrorism in the world,” the statement claims.
On April 13, 2022, the US Department of Defense announced that its $800 million military aid package to Ukraine will include 11 Mi-17 transport helicopters. The aircraft were previously purchased for Afghanistan.
Some reports indicate that the transfer had been planned as early as January 2022, before the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
“Russian FSVTS expresses a protest in regards to any illegal transfer of armaments and military equipment of Russian (Soviet) origin, including helicopters, supplied by Rosoboronexport in a large contract with Pentagon, signed in 2011, to Ukraine,” FSVTS said in a statement published on April 27, 2022.
According to FSVTS, the contract and the user agreement, a copy of which was attached to the statement, states that the helicopters are intended for transfer to the Afghan Armed Forces and cannot be reexported or transferred to any third party without the agreement of the Russian Federation.
The service said such a “voluntaristic decision” contradicts the foundations of international law and the state of other Russian-American contracts.
“The fact that Pentagon officials admit being unable to control further movements of the armaments Americans supplied to Ukraine, meaning – to prevent its uncontrolled transfer to third parties, only aggravates the already intensified the threat of terrorism in the world,” the statement claims.
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Sadly I am doubting this one Nutloose.
That bridge ( and river) is south of what I understand to be the current frontline by some km ( though I am geograpically challenged). So either the RF has a lot more territory in that little area than we saw published, or perhaps the russians blew the bridge with UA train on it to prevent reinforcements going north of the river, and video\pics are UA propoganda spin.
I cant imagine the OSINT is so far behind that RF is sending rail freight over a bridge that is supposedly in UAF hands still.
Please put me right if I have misunderstood something.
That bridge ( and river) is south of what I understand to be the current frontline by some km ( though I am geograpically challenged). So either the RF has a lot more territory in that little area than we saw published, or perhaps the russians blew the bridge with UA train on it to prevent reinforcements going north of the river, and video\pics are UA propoganda spin.
I cant imagine the OSINT is so far behind that RF is sending rail freight over a bridge that is supposedly in UAF hands still.
Please put me right if I have misunderstood something.
UPDATE
you are correct Russia took it out
added picture
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Last edited by NutLoose; 30th Apr 2022 at 16:02.
Lofted Rockets
During a mid-1980s discussion of this technique after Soviet helicopters in East Germany had been observed employing it, a USAF pilot who had flown O-2s in Vietnam said that he (and others) used it there. In his case, the rockets were typically for marking rather than effect, but he said with a little practice, accuracy could be surprisingly good.
Here is an irony for you, Russia sold MI 17 to the USA to supply to Afghanistan, but the USA has now supplied them to Ukraine and Russia is complaining that it is a breach of contract, more details here.
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/3...ne-with-mi-17s
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/3...ne-with-mi-17s
"Russia used to be considered the second strongest military in the world, now, they are the second strongest military in Ukraine". anon
Apparently Russian troops are fighting each other. Chechens vs Buryats regarding spoils of war and Russian contractors vs officers for actually being shot at instead of staying in a five star hotel. Also WW2 soviet style barricading troops are mentioned.
You couldn't make this up. Serves them right.
Buryat skirmish with Chechens - occupiers can't share loot and don't want to go on the offensive
April 29, 2022
In the occupied Kiselivka (Chornobayiv village community of Kherson region) there was a shootout between the Russian military of Chechen and Buryat nationality. More than 50 participants from each side took part in the night incident. The exact number of wounded and dead is currently unknown.
The causes of interethnic conflict are the reluctance of the Buryats to conduct offensive hostilities and "inequality" of conditions with the Chechens. The latter are not at the forefront at all, remaining in the rear only as "barricading detachments". Their task is to encourage the occupying forces to take active action. That is, open fire on those who are trying to retreat.
Another reason is the uneven distribution of loot. The main "profit" from looting is received by the same Chechens.
Due to the unwillingness to take part in the offensive, a conflict arose between the commanders and personnel of the Russian Armed Forces in the occupied Fedorovka, Zaporizhia region. Russians are complaining to locals about cheating when signing contracts and obtaining consent to take part in hostilities.
It turned out that the Russian contractors were promised an operation under the "Crimean scenario". That is, the lack of resistance from Ukraine, the allocation of housing in the occupied territories and a quiet service.
Seeing the real picture, many Russians refused to continue their service. This led to a conflict, which was resolved by the FSB. Some of the servicemen were taken away in an unknown direction after interrogations. They did not return to the place of service.
https://gur.gov.ua/content/perestril...-v-nastup.html
You couldn't make this up. Serves them right.
Buryat skirmish with Chechens - occupiers can't share loot and don't want to go on the offensive
April 29, 2022
In the occupied Kiselivka (Chornobayiv village community of Kherson region) there was a shootout between the Russian military of Chechen and Buryat nationality. More than 50 participants from each side took part in the night incident. The exact number of wounded and dead is currently unknown.
The causes of interethnic conflict are the reluctance of the Buryats to conduct offensive hostilities and "inequality" of conditions with the Chechens. The latter are not at the forefront at all, remaining in the rear only as "barricading detachments". Their task is to encourage the occupying forces to take active action. That is, open fire on those who are trying to retreat.
Another reason is the uneven distribution of loot. The main "profit" from looting is received by the same Chechens.
Due to the unwillingness to take part in the offensive, a conflict arose between the commanders and personnel of the Russian Armed Forces in the occupied Fedorovka, Zaporizhia region. Russians are complaining to locals about cheating when signing contracts and obtaining consent to take part in hostilities.
It turned out that the Russian contractors were promised an operation under the "Crimean scenario". That is, the lack of resistance from Ukraine, the allocation of housing in the occupied territories and a quiet service.
Seeing the real picture, many Russians refused to continue their service. This led to a conflict, which was resolved by the FSB. Some of the servicemen were taken away in an unknown direction after interrogations. They did not return to the place of service.
https://gur.gov.ua/content/perestril...-v-nastup.html
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https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1520039940041719809
https://twitter.com/EmmettLesterSan/status/1508439252089991173
It they can get over the trees without climbing, they aren't really low!
The Ukrainians have upgraded from Toyota:
"Ukrainian MT-LB engages with mounted aircraft rocket pods"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
"Ukrainian MT-LB engages with mounted aircraft rocket pods"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
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He looks like Benny Hill, or should one say did.
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