Netjets (Europe) Interviews - All you need to know about it (threads merged)
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There is an agreement or bond in the contracts, which says that the cost of a type rating or upgrading have to be repaid if you leave the company within 2 years. Looks illegal to me
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It is a training bond, so like every training bond, if you leave within the period, you have to pay the remaining part. the good thing at Netjets , is that this amount is 'virtual' ie not taken out of your pay check, it is real money only if you leave. For upgrading, never heard of it, the only bond thereafter is if you do Line training then TRI/E course, that the company pays. So obviously you are either seat locked , or you sign another bond for a period that depends of your total time , experience etc.. but if you make a career at NTA, why bother anyway..
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However, the english is exactly as described above, grammar, comprehension, vocabulary. Tests are changing all the time, so ....
For the technical part, the phone interview is brushing up on everything in Jar-Ops, then the technical written is just putting this on paper. V1, 2nd segment, BFL , fuel requirement, etc.. Just review the day to day knowledge, and a little bit more. there is plenty of explanation by Mike Jenvey all over pprune, and the essence of the interview has not change. But please, read a little about the company, aircraft, etc...do not come thinking you are going to fly a Legacy or what's it Airbus...
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So please tell me what happens if you decide you are not going to repay the training bond and you dont want a refrence or indeed ever want to fly again becuase you have realised you have just had enough of the whole aviation thing and what a b*ll5h1t way of life it really is. it used to be the job of dreams now i (and many others) see it as the job of nightmare and i dont see why i should repay anyone for fooling me into thinking i was entering a hallowed profession. and this training bond business is yet more garbage that is heaped upon us. if ALL the airlines realised that if they just offered a fair deal to their work force you would have loyalty for life. even my own company has this "training bond" and this had one of the best reputations in uk, what have we stooped to. its only in the recent months that i have realised - possibly naively - how undervalued we as pilots are and for that reason i am now looking to leave altogether and take up a more rewarding career. how will i deal with my training bond - well i suppose a nice letter might be a good start. adding the word "training" doesnt diguise the fact that it is feudal and as close to slavery as anything we can perceive in our "modern world". i welcome anyones thoughts on this.
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So please tell me what happens if you decide you are not going to repay the training bond and you dont want a refrence or indeed ever want to fly again becuase you have realised you have just had enough of the whole aviation thing and what a b*ll5h1t way of life it really is. it used to be the job of dreams now i (and many others) see it as the job of nightmare and i dont see why i should repay anyone for fooling me into thinking i was entering a hallowed profession. and this training bond business is yet more garbage that is heaped upon us. if ALL the airlines realised that if they just offered a fair deal to their work force you would have loyalty for life. even my own company has this "training bond" and this had one of the best reputations in uk, what have we stooped to. its only in the recent months that i have realised - possibly naively - how undervalued we as pilots are and for that reason i am now looking to leave altogether and take up a more rewarding career. how will i deal with my training bond - well i suppose a nice letter might be a good start. adding the word "training" doesnt diguise the fact that it is feudal and as close to slavery as anything we can perceive in our "modern world". i welcome anyones thoughts on this.
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thanks for the reply. it is dodgy ground that we are on but i think better to come clean. i know for a fact a chap who left nj without repaying anything as he just up fronted and told cm that he wasnt happy. the view then was better to let the chap/chappess leave without fuss rather than upsetting the upmarket pax. i can also see this in most other airlines as no one wants a loose cannon around. not a pleasant way to do business in this day and age.
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"So please tell me what happens if you decide you are not going to repay the training bond "
DON'T WORRY WINKLE, JUST GO! THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO RECLAIM ANY MONEY ON BONDS! mANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT AND THE BEST THEY TRY IS TO SEND YOU A THREATHENING LETTER. YOU OFCOURSE RESPOND THAT YOU WILL SEE THEM IN COURT AND THEY WILL NEVER REPLY AGAIN AS THEIR CONTRACT IS BASED ON ISLE OF MAN AND WITH THE RESULT THAT YOU CANNOT GET THEM BUT THEY ALSO CANNOT GET YOU, BONDING IS NOT ACCEPTED BY EUROPEAN JUDGES SO DON'T WORRY MATE GO BEFORE THE REST DOES ( IT WILL BE BUSY EARLY DECEMBER AFTER MORE WILL BE DISAPOINTED )
DON'T WORRY WINKLE, JUST GO! THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO RECLAIM ANY MONEY ON BONDS! mANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT AND THE BEST THEY TRY IS TO SEND YOU A THREATHENING LETTER. YOU OFCOURSE RESPOND THAT YOU WILL SEE THEM IN COURT AND THEY WILL NEVER REPLY AGAIN AS THEIR CONTRACT IS BASED ON ISLE OF MAN AND WITH THE RESULT THAT YOU CANNOT GET THEM BUT THEY ALSO CANNOT GET YOU, BONDING IS NOT ACCEPTED BY EUROPEAN JUDGES SO DON'T WORRY MATE GO BEFORE THE REST DOES ( IT WILL BE BUSY EARLY DECEMBER AFTER MORE WILL BE DISAPOINTED )
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Absolutly right about the bonds, the contract had no legal value by beeing off shore, one standart captain left with one week notice instead of three months. ...
The general comments of CL 300 demonstrate the problem netjets have to face by hiring (sorry nothing personnal guys) low calibrate pilots. of course a GA pilot coming from serie Z charter or corporate ****y company who never found a job in a proper serie A airline or flight department will found Netjets job wonderful. Higher calibrate pilots with higher expectations will found Netjets contract and methods unacceptable. So yes 8 or 10 pourcent of the pilots leave the company each year they are mainly ex airline guys captains and experienced, there are replaced by mainly low time low experience often CPL pilots. having a young soft happy workforce is good but netjets sales use a lot the safety records of his crew.....how long they are going to hide the truth with the hiring quality declining and always asking for more productivity in an incredible difficult flying enviroment? It s like driving everyday faster into the same corner and its becoming slipery ..
The general comments of CL 300 demonstrate the problem netjets have to face by hiring (sorry nothing personnal guys) low calibrate pilots. of course a GA pilot coming from serie Z charter or corporate ****y company who never found a job in a proper serie A airline or flight department will found Netjets job wonderful. Higher calibrate pilots with higher expectations will found Netjets contract and methods unacceptable. So yes 8 or 10 pourcent of the pilots leave the company each year they are mainly ex airline guys captains and experienced, there are replaced by mainly low time low experience often CPL pilots. having a young soft happy workforce is good but netjets sales use a lot the safety records of his crew.....how long they are going to hide the truth with the hiring quality declining and always asking for more productivity in an incredible difficult flying enviroment? It s like driving everyday faster into the same corner and its becoming slipery ..
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Experienced people leaving=less experience in company+ more flights + more aircraft=more tired crews= MORE RISK FOR ACCIDENT.
More tired crews =more people leaving
More people leaving +more bending the rules to compensate+ less counting the duty(everything private!)=even more tired crews=Even More risk for accident
If you have flown for a airline you leave asap now jobs are good
If you haven't flown for one you try to get in to one
If you haven't or/and in you can't you are stuck with Netjets and can witness the collapse of what COULD have been a great company if it had not been for the greedy management, filling the pockets, incompetent in managing more then their goldfish at home, and in order to get their bonusses, lie more to you pilot and the client, pushing you more to fly with technical issues when you shouldn't, bending more rules and respecting less the work and rest limitations because they Have to do those flights.....
I am sure that all the current and prospective clients are well informed about this are they? ................
Shame on you Netjets, your people fly the most influencial people in the world and you pay them peanuts, and treat them as a replaceable commodity...shame on you in management who caused all this.......but now it is too late........
More tired crews =more people leaving
More people leaving +more bending the rules to compensate+ less counting the duty(everything private!)=even more tired crews=Even More risk for accident
If you have flown for a airline you leave asap now jobs are good
If you haven't flown for one you try to get in to one
If you haven't or/and in you can't you are stuck with Netjets and can witness the collapse of what COULD have been a great company if it had not been for the greedy management, filling the pockets, incompetent in managing more then their goldfish at home, and in order to get their bonusses, lie more to you pilot and the client, pushing you more to fly with technical issues when you shouldn't, bending more rules and respecting less the work and rest limitations because they Have to do those flights.....
I am sure that all the current and prospective clients are well informed about this are they? ................
Shame on you Netjets, your people fly the most influencial people in the world and you pay them peanuts, and treat them as a replaceable commodity...shame on you in management who caused all this.......but now it is too late........
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Let's continue whith what originaly this post was set for....
We'll, I've got the date for the interview, but there is nothing mentioned in the email that I have to take any technical or english test (maybe I impressed the interviewer so much that I don't need it ) . Just information that there will be a half an hour interview and one hour of sim . Am I missing something maybe, just asking?
The second thing is, sim is supossed to be B200...are there some particular trick's that guys like to see when they evaluate you for the first time...any particular apt's, sid's, star's, mcc trick's...I guess now with improved conditions there will be much more guys/girls interested in joining them, so we'll need to prepare much more now, a.
I would now like to see comments from all you who have soo much against this company, what do you think now. I don't think that you will impress me too much and, I think that it is personal decission ef every individual where he will go and what to do with his life...
thank's for help
We'll, I've got the date for the interview, but there is nothing mentioned in the email that I have to take any technical or english test (maybe I impressed the interviewer so much that I don't need it ) . Just information that there will be a half an hour interview and one hour of sim . Am I missing something maybe, just asking?
The second thing is, sim is supossed to be B200...are there some particular trick's that guys like to see when they evaluate you for the first time...any particular apt's, sid's, star's, mcc trick's...I guess now with improved conditions there will be much more guys/girls interested in joining them, so we'll need to prepare much more now, a.
I would now like to see comments from all you who have soo much against this company, what do you think now. I don't think that you will impress me too much and, I think that it is personal decission ef every individual where he will go and what to do with his life...
thank's for help
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I would now like to see comments from all you who have soo much against this company, what do you think now. I don't think that you will impress me too much and, I think that it is personal decission ef every individual where he will go and what to do with his life...
Why ask for people's opinions when you say "I don't think that you will impress me too much"?. You've obviously made your mind up.
I hope you pass the interview and see the company from the inside. Good luck.
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Let's continue whith what originaly this post was set for....
We'll, I've got the date for the interview, but there is nothing mentioned in the email that I have to take any technical or english test (maybe I impressed the interviewer so much that I don't need it ) . Just information that there will be a half an hour interview and one hour of sim . Am I missing something maybe, just asking?
The second thing is, sim is supossed to be B200...are there some particular trick's that guys like to see when they evaluate you for the first time...any particular apt's, sid's, star's, mcc trick's...I guess now with improved conditions there will be much more guys/girls interested in joining them, so we'll need to prepare much more now, a.
I would now like to see comments from all you who have soo much against this company, what do you think now. I don't think that you will impress me too much and, I think that it is personal decission ef every individual where he will go and what to do with his life...
thank's for help
We'll, I've got the date for the interview, but there is nothing mentioned in the email that I have to take any technical or english test (maybe I impressed the interviewer so much that I don't need it ) . Just information that there will be a half an hour interview and one hour of sim . Am I missing something maybe, just asking?
The second thing is, sim is supossed to be B200...are there some particular trick's that guys like to see when they evaluate you for the first time...any particular apt's, sid's, star's, mcc trick's...I guess now with improved conditions there will be much more guys/girls interested in joining them, so we'll need to prepare much more now, a.
I would now like to see comments from all you who have soo much against this company, what do you think now. I don't think that you will impress me too much and, I think that it is personal decission ef every individual where he will go and what to do with his life...
thank's for help
Well I think that if you are flying the saab 340 you look like to have the kind of profile to like it, except may be the flat 25 %tax in portugal, but you will be better off at EZ now if you have large cabin jet or heavy jet command experience and more than 6000 hours you gone hate it.
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We'll, I've got the date for the interview, but there is nothing mentioned in the email that I have to take any technical or english test (maybe I impressed the interviewer so much that I don't need it ) . Just information that there will be a half an hour interview and one hour of sim . Am I missing something maybe, just asking?
The second thing is, sim is supossed to be B200...are there some particular trick's that guys like to see when they evaluate you for the first time...any particular apt's, sid's, star's, mcc trick's...I guess now with improved conditions there will be much more guys/girls interested in joining them, so we'll need to prepare much more now, a.
The second thing is, sim is supossed to be B200...are there some particular trick's that guys like to see when they evaluate you for the first time...any particular apt's, sid's, star's, mcc trick's...I guess now with improved conditions there will be much more guys/girls interested in joining them, so we'll need to prepare much more now, a.
Good luck
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Well glad thats all over,
Anyway the interview day is pretty much as posted on here already. No tricks everything straightforward.
The day begins with an english comp test, timed at 30 mins, about 30+ questions then technical test 30 mins about 30 + questions. Then everyone hands in photo copies of all documents required and slowly one by one your interviewed by a panle of 3 people with a mix of questions why join us? why should we hire you ?etc... After that you have a sim ride before the sim ride you are well briefed on the sid and destination star and procedure and some of the pwr settings, then off you go, about 40 mins, no de brief, and that complete's the day.
They let you know within 2 weeks of your result.
The sim ride and the technical paper test are changed on a regular basis, and the guy in before me had a different senario departure and destination to me, so they can even change per candidate per sim ride.
Good luck to you all
uni
Anyway the interview day is pretty much as posted on here already. No tricks everything straightforward.
The day begins with an english comp test, timed at 30 mins, about 30+ questions then technical test 30 mins about 30 + questions. Then everyone hands in photo copies of all documents required and slowly one by one your interviewed by a panle of 3 people with a mix of questions why join us? why should we hire you ?etc... After that you have a sim ride before the sim ride you are well briefed on the sid and destination star and procedure and some of the pwr settings, then off you go, about 40 mins, no de brief, and that complete's the day.
They let you know within 2 weeks of your result.
The sim ride and the technical paper test are changed on a regular basis, and the guy in before me had a different senario departure and destination to me, so they can even change per candidate per sim ride.
Good luck to you all
uni
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I am also looking for more informations about netjets technical questions.....
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Best xmas ever !!!
Well after 8 years and to many cv's i got the call the call to offer me a job with netjets, I cant tell you all how happy i am....
Mike Jenvey has written much on here and not to much has changed, the tech test is a recap of your atpl stuff, yes thats a lot to recap but they can and DO change the paper but look through aerodynamics, met, engines instruments and get to understand JAR ops too.
Best of luck everyone....
A very happy unimuts
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Well done unimuts always great to see a dream fulfilled, especially when it's been eight years in the making.
Keep us posted.
Best wishes & safe flying.
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Keep us posted.
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Hi - this started out as "Netjets recruitment" so I guess my input is valid. I emailed my CV last week - got a reply from Carmen 1 hour later with order to fill out Pilot Application Form - so far so good!!!! Did everything nicely and send back - 22 hours later another reply from Carmen saying thanks - you failed........... what ????
Everyone can fail various tests - but at least I was very much hopeing for an interview.
I got more than 3000 hours TT - 2 Boeing ratings and + 1700 hours on them.
Best of luck to them who goes to the interview.
Everyone can fail various tests - but at least I was very much hopeing for an interview.
I got more than 3000 hours TT - 2 Boeing ratings and + 1700 hours on them.
Best of luck to them who goes to the interview.
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There must be more to it... I cant comment as I don't know, but there must be something like the Passport or Licence? Try again and see if you get the same response, it might have been an error.