Twin2040

Hi and thanks for your reply - I hold a EU passport and a JAR FCL. I am on lay over in KUL - it might be worth to call Carmen on Tuesday when I return. Regards. Twin2040

EatMyShorts!

Yepp, definetely ask again, this looks really odd to me.

Sgnr de L'Atlantique

Does NJE usually ask inside referees about their opinion about a new applicant? In that case, tha could be it I guess.

Otherwise it seems very odd to me, especiall in these times where everybody needs pilots and 2000Hrs TT is looked at as an experienced pilot..

chileconcarne27

I've heard a few rumours flying round that Netjets may be offering some kind of sponsorship for Wannabee pilots. Is this completely unfounded and just another rumour mill or is there some substance behind it?

I'm hoping that someone here will have an idea before i phone recruitment and completely embarrass myself!

Cheers
Chile

spanman

As I'm new to this forum......and many people have asked the same question, I just wanted to know if anyone can shed a glimmer of light on new updates to the phone call, tech questions and interview with NJE as i have just recently applied.
thanks

just to add.......is it an advantage to have a VIP customer service background when applying to NJE

wigwag

Well done Unimuts

Thats me in too I got the call, cant quite believe it, and with the improvement in Terms and conditions, timing is just right.

I'm in for a fantastic Christmas and new year too, best of luck to all of you trying to get in .

Thanks Mike for the help and advice on previous posts, beer's on me.

WW

CNTDSCT

if one may be interested to join NetJets...which aircraft and salary may one expect?
B737NG with 5000 TT (1500PIC NG)
Citation2?NO thanks.
Hawker?NO thanks.
Falcon 900... YES
G5 as FO......maybe
LEAR....anytime any seat.if type is paid for .of course:-)

Does NetJet accepts part time pilots?

south coast

Can only laugh at that, probably best you stay on your 737 NG then.

CL300

BBJ's not in Europe...... Lear....not in a million light years same for Challenger and global.

Then for the rest it is SOOOOO simple, EVERYONE has the same salary you are fo on a G550 or C550 same pay..Idem captain salary... Idem FA salary ( male or female lol ) So three different salaries.. easy no?

CNTDSCT

i was asking cause my f/o got a job offer on the citation2...told him/her in the US we called it SLOWtation..and its so difficult they fly it single pilot.
Same salary??thats just insane...why would a pilot with lets say 2000 hours jet (SIC) which gets lets say the falcon because of experience would get the same salary as a 200hr c172 who got a Cessna cit2 position?
And the Lear is just a great machine..especially flying cargo ,but need the JAA conversion here so not possible...ok .

Whats the salary for f/0 then?
Thanks Mike ..thought you had lears..my fo is not going for an upgrade as too low hours..
I upgraded on the NG in 16 months...can i get the 7X or should go to cuitation2 first??

CNTDSCT

Mike,

Thank you for salary info..ill make sure to inform the person..
However i already have time on Be1900 not the D but the C (cargo again) and single pilot just like on sa 227..you have a sim for that ?i only have 300 hours on the be1900.... i may struggle a bit..you know the seat of the pants excuse

anyways,thank you for your posts.
1500 hours to start as F/O...respect to your airline..finally a european outfit with sense.

CNTDSCT

i have the basics on the sa227(1300 hours alone ) but rolling your 1900 sim..that i would like ..if i do it well..a seat on your 7X?..dont mind seniority of course

Have a nice and safe week

Captain Joe Smith

Hi Guys
Mike Jenvey mentioned yesterday that the NetJets salary as quoted from Flight International was 56500 euro for FO and 95000 euro for Captains. The Flight article also mentions the opion to work an additional 6 days for a conciderable amount of money more. Is that option available to all pilots or is it a ploy to advertise higher salaries. If I choose to go to NJE can I count on 60700 for my salary as FO?

yacan

yes plus 70€ per diem

PPRuNeUser0215

Actually to more acurate, you can count on the 6 extra days only for 2007 and only if you join when the busy time of your fleet happens to be after you have been line checked.
It has been found that each fleet works harder at different times of the year so the busy time of an Excel might be June, July, August and the for a Falcon, August, September, October.
So if you join in March on the Excel, considering that it takes a while to get through line training, you probably won't see the extra money (and might not have the option to offer to work more because of your late joining in the year).
The other thing to bear in mind is that the current number of worked-days off the company is willing to garantee to pay is 6, for the year 2007.
We do not know what it will be for 08-09-10 etc.... They hint it could be more (of course ) but in my view, if the crewing levels are nearly right, this should be less or not at all.
I regard this scheme as a potential bonus for those of us willing to give up their days off depending on company needs. This, I do not consider as part as my annual regular income, that way saving myself a financial disappointment.

Captain Joe Smith

Thanks for the reply,

Some additional questions from someone seriously interested to join next year...

How many weeks after joining can the average pilot expect to go on line? Are there enough training Captains to cover this training. How many rotations (tours) before you can expect to be line checked? and last but not least what is the average time before you can upgrade if you meet the NJE minimum upgrade requirments?

Thanks again

SayMach#

Hi,

it takes (having at least 3000 h) in average I'd say 12 months. Depending when you join, because no training in summer (June, Juli, August). With GA experience you fly normally 20, without 40 sectors with line trainers. And yes, training is struggling a little because of need of new pilots and line trainers are maxed out.

PPRuNeUser0215

Forgive me but the number of sectors for line Training (Flight under Supervision) is not down to whether or not you have GA experience.
It is standard JAR OPS stuff found in Part A.
It distinguishes two cases (With reference to what we are discussing here).
- First Officers flying types for first time
- First Officers undertaking first conversion course

Both require 40 sectors But the Director of Flight Training can reduce this requirement to 20. What he basically does, is to look at your previous experience and decides what you need as a minimum.
Usually it comes down to whether or not you have flown a jet before and what type of operations you were involved in (multi crew etc...).
The same goes for the landings. If you have similar previous experience, your base check will consist of a mini of 4 T/O and LDGs. If not then it is 6.

SayMach#

Sorry, got it wrong with the numbers of sectors. The 20 vs. 40 is for F/O line training. Usually if you upgrade on same type it is 10 sectors with line trainers!

Treetopflyer

About 3 to 5 months seems to be the usual timeframe from indoc to line check these days. Lack of line trainers seems to be the issue.

Time to upgrade depends a bit on the fleet as well (sometimes a bit longer on the XL / Hawker than on the Bravo / 400XP) but is around a year for most people. Could be shorter if you perform exceptionnally well or if you know people (i.e. flew in the same RAF squadron as your fleet manager... ).

Good luck for the interview.

TTF