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SHVC 24th Dec 2021 02:23

Looks like open borders and high demand have taken their toll on JQ the hardest. Multiple flights canceled due COVID isolation requirements leading to a shortage of Pilots, cabin crew and other staff. VA experiencing the same however QF canceling due lack of demand.


PoppaJo 24th Dec 2021 02:45

I lost some of my roster purely due low demand, was pretty quiet last week and even this week. Probably are about twice as heavy in capacity vs what is actually needed.

I wouldn’t expect much to change in the next month. If we are cycling months of high cases, the public will continue to be spooked by the fear from politicians and the media.

‘Brisbane on Edge’ when I flicked on the TV today. FFS.

SHVC 24th Dec 2021 02:53

Sydney is bursting at the seems, the JQ check in is overwhelmed. I guess the punters want out of Sydney. Majority of the flights that were canceled were ML-SY, 12 today in total. I think the appetite to head north will be met with caution for some time. This could be rex jet time to shine, or are they canceling also? no mention of them.

Transition Layer 24th Dec 2021 03:19


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11160282)
Make that 99.9%, CDC data on the 2018-2019 flu season was 28,000 deaths vs 29,000,000 symptomatic cases (asymptotic cases are not tested for in flu). Flu causes 3-4 deaths per 100,000 population in the USA on average.

Covid in the US is running at 98.4% survival rate on all suspected cases including asymptotic. So if you changed that to vs symptomatic cases only the number could easily be 95% or such. Covid is running at 250 deaths per 100,000 population in the US. Most other western nations with high covid have similar data.

PS I use the US as an example and the UK at times as they have rules that dispel a lot of the myths, such as death count from flu or covid must be 'due' to covid, not died with covid etc... It has to be listed as the actual cause of death and not as a sub item.

Also you don't have to be 'unhealthy' to die from covid, any condition that already stresses the heart or lungs will complicate covid recovery. Diabetics and asthmatics are highly susceptible to it, whether from being unfit, or just carrying the condition. Certain diabetics are due to unhealthy lifestyle, a lot are not by choice at all, and ageing is not a choice either, neither is asthma.

Out of curiosity, how do the flu death total numbers in 2020/2021 compare to previous years?

Icarus2001 24th Dec 2021 03:55


Also you don't have to be 'unhealthy' to die from covid, any condition that already stresses the heart or lungs will complicate covid recovery. Diabetics and asthmatics are highly susceptible to it,
Which is the very definition of unhealthy is it not!

NumptyAussie 24th Dec 2021 04:42

[QUOTE=Transition Layer;11160329]Out of curiosity, how do the flu death total numbers in 2020/2021 compare to previous years?[/QUOTE

Have a look for yourself

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/he...latest-release

MickG0105 24th Dec 2021 04:46


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11160329)
Out of curiosity, how do the flu death total numbers in 2020/2021 compare to previous years?

From the CDC's 2020-2021 Flu Season Summary;

What was the 2020-2021 flu season like?

Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally, despite high levels of testing. During September 28, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,675 (0.2%) of 818,939 respiratory specimens tested by U.S. clinical laboratories were positive for an influenza virus. The low level of flu activity during this past season contributed to dramatically fewer flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths compared with previous flu seasons. For comparison, during the last three seasons before the pandemic, the proportion of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza peaked between 26.2% and 30.3%. In terms of hospitalizations, the cumulative rate of laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations in the 2020-2021 season was the lowest recorded since this type of data collection began in 2005. For pediatric deaths, CDC received one report of a pediatric flu death in a child during the 2020–2021 flu season. Since flu deaths in children became nationally notifiable in 2004, reported flu deaths in children had previously ranged from a low of 37 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 199 (during 2019-2020).

What are possible explanations for the unusually low flu activity?

COVID-19 mitigation measures such as wearing face masks, staying home, hand washing, school closures, reduced travel, increased ventilation of indoor spaces, and physical distancing, likely contributed to the decline in 2020-2021 flu incidence, hospitalizations and deaths. Influenza vaccination may also contributed to reduced flu illness during the 2020–2021 season. Flu vaccine effectiveness estimates for 2020-2021 are not available, but a record number of influenza vaccine doses (193.8 million doses) were distributed in the U.S. during 2020-2021.
You can read the full report here.

Foxxster 24th Dec 2021 05:20


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11160324)
Looks like open borders and high demand have taken their toll on JQ the hardest. Multiple flights canceled due COVID isolation requirements leading to a shortage of Pilots, cabin crew and other staff. VA experiencing the same however QF canceling due lack of demand.


about 80 domestic flights cancelled

A Sydney Airport spokeperson said at least 80 domestic flights had been cancelled across all airlines. While Jetstar was forced to make last-minute cancellations, both Qantas and Virgin Australia informed passengers earlier this week that their flights scheduled for Friday had been cancelled.

It is understood that most of Qantas’s cancellations had been made to consolidate services due to lower-than-expected demand during the Christmas period, and that the airline is not suffering from staff shortages.

A Virgin Australia spokesperson said there had been only one unplanned flight cancellation announced on Friday, with passengers booked on other cancelled services for Friday informed earlier this week and most moved on to other flights within an hour of their original booking.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ned-over-covid





SHVC 24th Dec 2021 05:30

Jetstar shortages are two mainly the COVID isolation requirements. Multiple spilts, cabin crew and front line staff are having to isolate because of the long turn around for the PCR test which in most cases is 3+ days.

Aussie Bob 24th Dec 2021 08:58

So much for the vaccine then ....

Doesn't stop you getting it
Doesn't stop you transmitting it
Doesn't negate the need for wearing masks
Doesn't negate the need to get tested
Doesn't negate the need to isolate
Only works for 6 months then you need a booster
In short, an abject failure

All for something 99.9% of healthy people survive.

Merry Christmas PPRUNE 's

megle2 24th Dec 2021 19:41

Bleat on Bob, as you said in your post “ it works “ so let’s run with it

Merry Christmas

Ex FSO GRIFFO 25th Dec 2021 09:16

And here I was thinking that the VACCINE may determine the degree of SEVERITY, or lack thereof, of the EFFECT of said virus on the recipient / sufferer....

I don't particularly want to experiment and see how it may affect me / my Grandies.... Had me 2 shots, and willing to back up for the third.

Just sayin'........

Cheers
p.s. I respect ya 'rights'....just keep ya distance from moi.....

PoppaJo 26th Dec 2021 01:40

Here we go. SA first to start jumping at shadows and impose restrictions. Not sure when they are planning on ‘living with it’. Queensland better hang on, restrictions normally cost me half my roster right off the bat.

SOPS 26th Dec 2021 01:57


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11160899)
Here we go. SA first to start jumping at shadows and impose restrictions. Not sure when they are planning on ‘living with it’. Queensland better hang on, restrictions normally cost me half my roster right off the bat.

Yes. I was just thinking.. this whole ‘ let’s open up and live with it thing’ is working really well.. isn’t it?

Icarus2001 26th Dec 2021 04:06


Yes. I was just thinking.. this whole ‘ let’s open up and live with it thing’ is working really well.. isn’t it?
I would be very interested to hear your alternative to that? Toot toot.

aussieflyboy 26th Dec 2021 05:01

I had a Covid test 85 hours ago in NSW and still don’t have a result. I imagine the vast majority of people entering QLD from NSW have not told the truth on the border pass.

A dumb requirement by the useless QLD gov has put a huge strain on NSW Covid testing sites for now no reason at all.

Torukmacto 26th Dec 2021 06:31

Bring on the omicron parties .

Angle of Attack 26th Dec 2021 08:42

The whole fing idea of having a PCR test to travel domestically was pretty well known to be a shit idea from the start, just proves that you basically have to be a di$head to be in state politics to start, the fools that couldn’t get into the real federal parliament. I’ve had enough and so has 90% of other people they just lie and do what they like, no one checks you anyway, you need to be able to enforce your shit not just crap on like babies. It’s everywhere F off tests and grow up, QLD will have 8k-15k cases a day within a couple of weeks, live with it!

Angle of Attack 26th Dec 2021 08:56

Let’s not beat around the bush, Spurrier from SA is way out of her league and has been since the start, she has actually been an immense embarrassment for anyone living in SA, she’s now going back to bull crap restrictions from las year lol, what a completely ineffective leader. Pathetic, totally out of her element. These so called health experts are just a bunch of chums getting jobs from mates, it’s ridiculous.

ozbiggles 26th Dec 2021 11:04

[QUOTE=Aussie Bob;11160427]So much for the vaccine then ....

Doesn't stop you getting it
Doesn't stop you transmitting it
Doesn't negate the need for wearing masks
Doesn't negate the need to get tested
Doesn't negate the need to isolate
Only works for 6 months then you need a booster
In short, an abject failure

All for something 99.9% of healthy

So after 2 hundred years of vaccine use and two intense years of scrutiny of what vaccines do…that is what you think vaccines were meant to do? Please, keep speaking up for the anti Vaxxers….they are a dying breed.


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