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BNEA320 30th May 2020 01:57

All borders to reopen.
 
https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...8%20May%202020



& this paragraph in particular Ö



According to the proposed timetable, Aussies would be able to travel to New Zealand and the Pacific from 1 July, with travel to other countries deemed safe under a bilateral health agreement to restart from 10 September.

However, it appears all international travel wouldnít resume until after 15 December.

The Tourism Restart Taskforce is planning for all domestic travel, including domestic expedition cruises, to restart from 5 June.


& my guess, jobkeeper & jobseeker to go early, as country can't afford it. As it is, GST will have to increase. To what ? 15%, 20% or more ?


Colonel_Klink 30th May 2020 02:34

Itís calling for all domestic travel to start from June 5.

So by next Friday you think the WA, NT, QLD, SA and TAS state governments are all going to open their borders. You are absolutely kidding yourself. Itís more likely the state borders open from July 1 and borders open to NZ by some time in September.

And what do you mean the country canít afford JK and JS? Australia still has one of the lowest government debts amongst OECD nations. The RBA governor has basically said we can afford to borrow more and spend it on things that will grow the economy. This is especially the case when the cost of borrowing is so cheap at the
moment.

You need to understand that government debt is not the same as household debt.

And are you also suggesting the government is going to double a consumption tax at the point where consumption is at its lowest because the country is in recession? That would be a massive economic blunder - and there is no way the government will go anywhere near something like that.



BNEA320 30th May 2020 02:49


Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink (Post 10797174)
It’s calling for all domestic travel to start from June 5.

So by next Friday you think the WA, NT, QLD, SA and TAS state governments are all going to open their borders. You are absolutely kidding yourself. It’s more likely the state borders open from July 1 and borders open to NZ by some time in September.

And what do you mean the country can’t afford JK and JS? Australia still has one of the lowest government debts amongst OECD nations. The RBA governor has basically said we can afford to borrow more and spend it on things that will grow the economy. This is especially the case when the cost of borrowing is so cheap at the
moment.

You need to understand that government debt is not the same as household debt.

And are you also suggesting the government is going to double a consumption tax at the point where consumption is at its lowest because the country is in recession? That would be a massive economic blunder - and there is no way the government will go anywhere near something like that.

no fed govt wants to announce that GST is being increased, but at some point, one will have to. There's also a problem, that those getting $750 a week for doing nothing in many cases, don't want to go back to work & when dole is reduced to what it was, many dole bludgers will scream, they can't live on that, even though many have cash jobs on the side.

Islandlad 30th May 2020 02:59


Originally Posted by BNEA320 (Post 10797183)
no fed govt wants to announce that GST is being increased, but at some point, one will have to.

Before the thread grows could you make the Title more specific to Australia, NZ and any Pacific border? There will be many different area specific borders people are waiting to open (which may close again).

Thanks and good luck.

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 30th May 2020 03:21

The body proposing the June 5 timeline is Federal.

Good luck convincing the State governments to follow it.

The The 30th May 2020 03:26

Western Australia and New Zealand are to be the first to open up the Trans Tasman bubble. Large number of expat NZ'ers in WA and big immediate tourism potential for both sides, winter skiing in NZ and warm sunshine in Northern WA.

You heard it here first!

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 30th May 2020 03:37


Originally Posted by The The (Post 10797193)
Western Australia and New Zealand are to be the first to open up the Trans Tasman bubble. Large number of expat NZ'ers in WA and big immediate tourism potential for both sides, winter skiing in NZ and warm sunshine in Northern WA.

You heard it here first!

Media reports this week to the contrary. Vic, ACT and NSW most likely to open first to NZ. Reports of a possible proving flight on July 1 CBR to WLG.

No disrespect to WA, but the vast majority of tourism dollars and Kiwi Expats come fro the east coast. Perth is a pretty small city and I canít see many people flying 7 hrs to AKL then 2 hrs down to ZQN to hit the slopes. Or vice versa kiwis up to Broome.

cloudsurfng 30th May 2020 03:42

Whilst the state dictators can control their own borders, international approval is a federal matter. No way Scomo will reward the petulant states that refuse to allow Australians in, with holidays to one of the greatest places on earth....and nor should he. It will be ACT, NSW and VIC subject to NZ approval of course.

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 30th May 2020 03:49

BNEA320,

As much as we all want travel to resume ASAP, cherry picking news reports and creating misleading threads on PPRUNE isnít going to make it happen any faster, no matter how many exclamation points you use!!!!!!!!!!

normanton 30th May 2020 05:40

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the NZ PM has stated many times that there will be no travel to AUS until all of our internal borders are removed.

It ain't happening any time soon.

Chris2303 30th May 2020 05:43

More and more NZers do not want the border open until Australia is reporting zero new cases. If NZ can do it even Aussies can do it.

Don't listen to Winston - what he says is of no import.

Ragnor 30th May 2020 05:57

Zero new cases? Well better seddle in and wait for a vaccine because zero target will not happen.

rmm 30th May 2020 06:40


Originally Posted by normanton (Post 10797221)
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the NZ PM has stated many times that there will be no travel to AUS until all of our internal borders are removed.

It ain't happening any time soon.

She may have changed her tune,
https://www.theage.com.au/business/t...27-p54x16.html

"New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on Wednesday she spoke to her Australian counterpart Scott Morrison on Tuesday and both were keen to move forward with the idea ďas quickly as we canĒ.
"It won't be too long before we are ready," she said at a press conference."

https://www.smh.com.au/national/lega...25-p54w8a.html

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on Monday the creation of a bubble Ė or safe travel zone Ė between Australia and New Zealand was not conditional on state border relaxation.
"It's contingent on Australia signalling that they are ready," she said. "They may choose to open up while they have some internal border restrictions. They may choose to wait. I see that as a matter for Australia."

ivan ellerbai 30th May 2020 06:41


could you make the Title more specific to Australia, NZ and any Pacific border?
Why? Isn't where it's posted specific title enough?

PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
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Buttscratcher 30th May 2020 07:05


Originally Posted by cloudsurfng (Post 10797196)
.... with holidays to one of the greatest places on earth..

You're taking the piss, right?

Chris2303 30th May 2020 07:25


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10797224)
Zero new cases? Well better seddle in and wait for a vaccine because zero target will not happen.

NZ has had zero new cases for the last 6 days.

chookcooker 30th May 2020 07:26

Theyíre gonna be in a pretty small bubble if thatís the pass mark then. Good luck NZ economy

plainmaker 30th May 2020 07:40

GST to increase - yeah rite!
 
A small note to BNEA320
GST revenue goes back to the States, not the Commonwealth (although a Commonwealth Agency collects it). So as per your 'proposed' GST increase will have ZERO effect on Commonwealth Debt. And you can bet, if the GST rate was increased, the States would be falling over one another to get their 'entitlement'.
Plainmaker.

ozbiggles 30th May 2020 09:29

None so blind as those that will not see.

cloudsurfng 30th May 2020 10:30


Originally Posted by Buttscratcher (Post 10797251)
You're taking the piss, right?

not at all. The South Island is incredible, Iíd live there in a heartbeat.

PS life for me is about skiing and hiking.....


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