Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11147587)
Well, here we again! Omnicron much more transmissible than Delta and vaccines only 30% affective against it.
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11147587)
Well, here we again! Omnicron much more transmissible than Delta and vaccines only 30% affective against it.
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11147601)
Major humanitarian crisis about to unfold in Africa. Not even a quarter fully vaccinated.
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it was on the news, however they may have made a mistake as it has 50 mutations with 30 new spike proteins
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The only evidence that is coming from Omnicron so far is that it is reinfecting previously infected individuals, which would suggest it could reduce vaccine effectiveness as well. Just another lesson to be learned from letting the virus spreads leads to mutations that eventually overcome human defenses, hopefully its less severe, rather than worse. |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11147601)
Major humanitarian crisis about to unfold in Africa. Not even a quarter fully vaccinated.
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I would say the average Africans immune system is armed to the teeth from exposure to everything. There's also the lower age and higher fitness of the general population as well. Not so many fat, diabetic couch surfers in most of Africa, where in SA its closer to 'western' lifestyles. They also are very in-tune with epidemics and avoiding getting sick, you wont see many of them laughing at the spread of sickness like in the west.
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Standby for the imminent closure of our international border.......and I so advise!! (there goes the holidays).
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I doubt they will close it straight away, they may restrict travel inbound from certain countries.
They will watch it keenly tho to see the spread. |
Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11147632)
I doubt they will close it straight away, they may restrict travel inbound from certain countries.
They will watch it keenly tho to see the spread. Federal government to announce changes to quarantine for South African arrivals The variant has been detected in or from people who’ve been to Egypt, Israel, Hong Kong, Belgium. It’s too late to contain out of Africa. But there’s some preliminary statements from SA that it’s not causing too much severe illness and vaccines are still keeping people mostly out of hospital, so caution and a bit of calmness needed. Already vaccine manufacturers have stated they can tailor booster shots specific to the variant, so no doubt this will trigger anti vaxxers to claim the variant was created by big pharma all along...... |
mRNA booster vaccines can be tweaked as such to cater for new variants so shouldn’t be a disaster in the West. No doubt they are already working on it.
2022/2023 was always going to be a case of cat and mouse with variants and outbreaks. We need to sort of cycle out of the exit phase with numerous bumps along the way. It will die off eventually...... If it’s going to trigger a firm border again, Keep the nations border shut to protect the state borders. We cannot go back to what we are now getting out of. I can see some states shutting off to the world again. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11147643)
But there’s some preliminary statements from SA that it’s not causing too much severe illness and vaccines are still keeping people mostly out of hospital, so caution and a bit of calmness needed.
Already vaccine manufacturers have stated they can tailor booster shots specific to the variant, so no doubt this will trigger anti vaxxers to claim the variant was created by big pharma all along...... |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11147655)
If it’s going to trigger a firm border again, Keep the nations border shut to protect the state borders. We cannot go back to what we are now getting out of. I can see some states shutting off to the world again.
Definite chance state borders may close again, or stay closed, if Omicron is found in Vic and NSW in the next couple of weeks until more is known. Moderna has issued press releases indicating they’re already working on an Omicron specific booster. Pfizer and Moderna indicating 100 days to have new variant specific vaccines to market. Antivirals should be here soon and as they target a different area they should still be effective. |
At least keep Vic and NSW open to each other. Highly likely by the looks of things, the others well we sort of know what they will do.
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I’m betting that WA will not open its borders any time soon.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11147666)
I’m betting that WA will not open its borders any time soon.
That shouldn’t affect WAs border opening timeline, so of course it will. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11147666)
I’m betting that WA will not open its borders any time soon.
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11147671)
Keep dreaming SOPS you scared little person
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The government has already shut the borders to countries affected by this variant. It’s effective immediately which means they know this is likely a highly virulent strain. It’s not a massive leap from listing countries to a return to fortress Australia.
That’s my guess anyway, I wonder if we have learned any lessons from delta. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11147666)
I’m betting that WA will not open its borders any time soon.
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