Yes, really. Most of them, but not all, are in the mining industry in some capacity. One is the divisional director of a massive, and I mean massive, engineering company in Perth, and he is the most adamant it’s time to move on. They are not frightened at all. And I would also add, he was by far (irritatingly so) the biggest supported of the border policies 12 months ago. Things have moved on. If you are scared, live in your bedroom, it’s no skin off my nose.
More than ever I feel heartened by what I’m hearing in the community. Your friends in the medical fraternity seem to be the only group against it. I guess that’s because it will it increase their workload. That sucks, but that’s life.

Actually groups like the AMA are against it because it'll decrease their workload, not increase it. The more hospital beds are filled up with Covid patients mean the less money made from elective surgeries, especially in the private sector. That's where the cash is earned, not monitoring patients in an ICU, mostly done by a nurse. It's pure self interest for these doctors, so watch out for a lot of these statements by groups like the AMA because it's purely their financial motivations at play, not any concern for public health. They are the doctor's union after all.

To show you how little the AMA is "concerned" about public health they also opposed the use of pharmacists in administering Covid vaccines, all vaccines in fact. That would mean less business for GP clinics, and if they had gotten their way our vaccine rollout would've been further delayed and more people probably would have died.

By ‘a whole lot’, do you mean the 0.1% of REPORTED infections that experience anything other than mild or no symptoms?

To be clear, how many people is that?

Poll published on 22nd Dec, prior to the shenanigans with close contact definitions, RAT shortages, PCR test delays and the like and when the 7 day rolling average of cases was likely much less than today. Do the survey today and see what the result is. I love these scientific surveys - 811 people, not exactly ABS standard is it? And from marketers.

Credit where credit is due, the decision to set Feb 5 as the opening date, although perhaps maligned, has proven to be prudent.

I still can’t believe we are talking about borders, with vaccine rates the envy of the world.

We need to start talking out how we are about to very soon, exit the pandemic, with the opportunity to be the first in the world. No Social distancing, No PCRs, no masks, No QR. If you feel like your about to drop dead, you go to the Emergency. If you feel like you have a cold, you stay at home and burn sick leave.

Boosters done by May. We need to spend the May to July quarter transitioning away, and August onwards we need to drop every, single, bloody thing.

Not sure what world you live in but flight crew can't operate with a cold let alone covid, so if crew test positive for covid they must ground themselves as required by their medical issue and if it lasts more than 7 days a DAME has to re-certify them before they can fly again. That means if the infections do spread significantly, as we have already seen numerous cancellations will occur from crew shortages. This will apply to a large number of industries, this has already occurred in the UK, USA and Europe. In the US and UK hospital staff and doctors are now reluctant to come in on overtime as they are over worked and tired causing a lot of staffing issues. There is a big difference between being a possible contact and isolating from work for a day or so until tested and testing positive and having to wait out until negative test, which could be however long. I cant see any world where you would be allowed to operate as flight crew or even travel while knowingly carrying a contagious virus.

Given the response and changes in the last week in official circles, I would venture the pandemic is officially now over in Australia. Finished. Done. Milestones achieved.
Those that were going to be vaccinated have been done so. Those that have successfully avoided vaccination - you are on your own. They don't care any more. Officialdom have been promised a total cure by the vaccine companies last year, they pushed the vaccines while minimising spread, and along comes Omicron and makes the whole exercise rather obsolete. No more booster shots. No more certificates. No more QR codes. No more contact tracing. No more isolation. No more lockdowns. No more masks. Just get the awful four day weak flu with horrid symptoms, get over it, and life goes on! Once we all have the antibodies (naturally, or vaccine induced), the pandemic is over. The virus will run out of hosts to infect, and will die a swift death. Those that will die from it, tough luck. We will keep some hospital beds put aside for you, but we have lost interest.
Just in time for second anniversary.
Other nations are on different timescales on the very same pattern. Their bell curve is different shaped, and they are at different phases of it. Omicron rages and dominates, pushing out all others.

Is that the way you see it proceeding in the New Year?

My comment was in response to a previous comment of “a whole lotta people gonna get sick”, not ‘a whole lotta crew gonna get infected’.

Not lies. Just “bullshit”.
 

If we ever get rid of the 3 tier Australian system and it’s the states that go their demise will be traced back to this pandemic .

If we did this 6 months ago we would have a much higher death rate. Hildebrand is a first class flog.

Agreed. Stating prior to an interview on Studio 10 with Rosie Batty, he said that "women too scared to report child abuse have no excuse".

Of course, as is usual with his species, once they get called out for making a sh-tty comment, they come out and apologise and society moves on. Well, it shouldn't. He opened his mouth, he formed the words in his head, then he spoke them. He's a sensationalist and was looking for a bite. Apologising is just saying "I shouldn't have said it because now I'm worried I'll get sacked". There's no remorse at all.

I put him in the same category as that troglodyte that was running the ACL - who said "If SSM becomes law, it will lead to the sort of things that happened in Germany in 1933".

One thing I despise about society these days is that people who make disgusting comments like that, while entitled to their opinion, should not be allowed to just apologise and move on. The apology is just BS, the comment was made while fully conscious and in possession of what is presumably a reasonably functioning brain. Happily in the latter case, he left ACL and launched a political career which died before it started. Good. Wish someone would end Hilderbrand's career. Who ARE these people anyway?? What qualification of life do they have to pontificate to others??

Not the first time this moron has opened his mouth and spewed utter crap.

From first hand experience Omicron is a bad cold. Time to restart the world

Based on a sample size of one:rolleyes:

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2...till-dangerous

https://www.health.gov.au/health-ale...riants/omicron

Despite the media frothing at the mouth with the arrival of Omicron, forecasting the end of life as we know it, there has been plenty of studies now that show Omicron is less virulent but more easily transmissbale.

The former deputy CHO for Australia spoke about it early on and suggested it be allowed to spread as the dominant strain as it is more mild than Delta.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...3c7b431eca49da

What qualifications do you have that has allowed you to pontificate to others through some 230 pages of this Karens thread AP?

Has there been any indication by NSW health as to what hospital bed capacity may be? Hospitalisations tend to lag by a week or two behind onset.

The challenge is WHO gets to decide what is a disgusting comment?

There is a small but vocal group of people who will howl you down if you suggest soneone with a penis is a man or only women menstruate.

The thousand people in hospital in NSW may disagree with you.

SOPS when someone who is very sick or is perhaps eighty years old and being supported by multiple medications, gets a cold, they are often sent to hospital.
I asked above but you sped past like a train past closed points...
What would you do with the W.A. border?