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Buster Hyman 10th Dec 2021 01:00


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11153719)
...but PH is a $hit hole.

If that's PHE you're talking about, I'll happily second that!


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11153796)
...free to stay in Sydney or Melbourne where it costs both arms and legs to buy a house, and to sit in a traffic jam all day long.

Yes. That's what happens in popular Cities. People want to be there.

nivsy 10th Dec 2021 02:13


Originally Posted by Buster Hyman (Post 11153860)
If that's PHE you're talking about, I'll happily second that!


Yes. That's what happens in popular Cities. People want to be there.

There are many reasons in addition to " want to live there" driven by supply and demand not just popularity. I actually find Perth quite expensive frankly! 🤭

morno 10th Dec 2021 02:39


Originally Posted by NumptyAussie (Post 11153462)
For someone who hates going to WA, you seem to be quite upset and vocal regarding the border restrictions. For the sake of your health, and possibly your families mental health, let the hate go and enjoy your life.

I have friends and family that have been adversely affected by that Goose’s border restrictions.

What drives me mad though, is that this bloke is merely using his border restrictions as a cover up for his government’s abysmal healthcare system. If they had to deal with any decent outbreak, it’d fail. And then his policy decisions would become apparent.

So I’m looking forward to the borders opening, just to see McGoose be exposed for the failure he is.

neville_nobody 10th Dec 2021 02:43


Well that’s your opinion, free to stay in Sydney or Melbourne where it costs both arms and legs to buy a house, and to sit in a traffic jam all day long. Net interstate migration showed a net gain for WA and a larger net loss for NSW and Vic over the last year so the “free market” is deciding where they’d rather live.
How can that be true with a hard border?? All I have read about is businesses complaining there is no staff in WA and they can't import anyone.

SOPS 11th Dec 2021 09:59

Well … I’m not sure just what the plan is for WA to open up. But as of now, it’s goodbye QLD, you are now locked out of WA from Monday.

SHVC 11th Dec 2021 10:28


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11153796)
Well that’s your opinion, free to stay in Sydney or Melbourne where it costs both arms and legs to buy a house, and to sit in a traffic jam all day long. Net interstate migration showed a net gain for WA and a larger net loss for NSW and Vic over the last year so the “free market” is deciding where they’d rather live.



Well that will be made imminently. We can see if it’s a firm date or a “stringing along”.

You obviously do not understand what you’re on about by that comment.

Transition Layer 11th Dec 2021 11:50

As more and more domestic flights will now get cancelled in the lead up to Christmas, just remember that Mark McGowan and his WA Government have been the saviour of aviation in this country! I’m pretty sure I saw his nose lengthen as he said it!

goodonyamate 11th Dec 2021 18:11


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11154435)
Well … I’m not sure just what the plan is for WA to open up. But as of now, it’s goodbye QLD, you are now locked out of WA from Monday.

love the language..‘locked out’ as if that shithole is somewhere people would want to go. It’s you that’s locked in, welcome to south west china….you’re all just too blind to see it. Stockholm syndrome alive and well in WA. You can bet the moment McGoose is shown to be the failure he is, he’ll be all over the ‘news’ there blaming the nasty eastern states or the feds because he didn’t spend on the WA health system. He barely gets any airtime outside of WA anymore. Treasonous fool he is.

SHVC 11th Dec 2021 19:39

How is that announcement coming along! The only announcement made was the border was tightened last night but no mention of opening. WA is in an indefinite lockdown.
What is the plan MM!

RodH 11th Dec 2021 20:51

People wishing to go to WA for Xmas from Qld are well and truly stuffed like the turkey they were going to have there!
WA's pathetically slow vaccination rate is the root cause of this latest border restrictions and that's largely due to that Political Drongo not encouraging his lemmings to go and get vaccinated asap.
The other States and territories Leaders have done so but not this clown!, well not lately and it's too late to do much good now anyway.
You have well and truly played the role of " Grinch " Mr. Premier and you so called advisors.
We all have to learn to live with Covid and all of it's variants as can't stop it , just live with it like the flu.

NumptyAussie 11th Dec 2021 23:50

"RodH , 12th Dec 2021 05:51
People wishing to go to WA for Xmas from Qld are well and truly stuffed like the turkey they were going to have there!
WA's pathetically slow vaccination rate is the root cause of this latest border restrictions and that's largely due to that Political Drongo not encouraging his lemmings to go and get vaccinated asap.
The other States and territories Leaders have done so but not this clown!, well not lately and it's too late to do much good now anyway.
You have well and truly played the role of " Grinch " Mr. Premier and you so called advisors.
We all have to learn to live with Covid and all of it's variants as can't stop it , just live with it like the flu."

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StudentInDebt 12th Dec 2021 01:15


Originally Posted by RodH (Post 11154626)
People wishing to go to WA for Xmas from Qld are well and truly stuffed like the turkey they were going to have there!
WA's pathetically slow vaccination rate is the root cause of this latest border restrictions and that's largely due to that Political Drongo not encouraging his lemmings to go and get vaccinated asap.
The other States and territories Leaders have done so but not this clown!, well not lately and it's too late to do much good now anyway.
You have well and truly played the role of " Grinch " Mr. Premier and you so called advisors.
We all have to learn to live with Covid and all of it's variants as can't stop it , just live with it like the flu.

Encouraging? They tried that for months but no-one listened, at least as long as NSW and VIC. Now it’s mandated for pretty much every major sector in the state because they realised without community COVID transmission there are enough muppets here to stop the coverage reaching 80-90%. No-one in WA other than the lunatic fringe of the liberal party is going to support opening borders to deliberately allow 1000+ people to die earlier than they need to, so the borders will remain closed. When I meet people who refuse to get vaccinated and try to explain the consequence of their actions, they are “cool with that”.
Try to bear in mind that the vast majority of West Australians are vaccinated and they also want to see the border restrictions lifted but in a way that does not disrupt the lack transmission suppression measures, ie wait for high vaccination rates.
Short of physically dragging people off the street, I’m not sure how much more “encouragement” politicians can provide. They are taking away people’s livelihoods for not getting vaccinated, something that the Murdoch press and Nine would be decrying as totalitarianism if they hadn’t already used that with their anti-border restriction by-lines.

Icarus2001 12th Dec 2021 02:21


No-one in WA other than the lunatic fringe of the liberal party is going to support opening borders to deliberately allow 1000+ people to die earlier than they need to, so the borders will remain closed.
So you believe that if MM opened the borders from say Dec 20th to allow Christmas travel then 1000+ people will die in WA?

How did you come to that conclusion? Of the total deaths in Australia of 2072 in the last 22 months, 1390 were in Victoria.


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These are FACTS. This is why it is so hard to have a sensible discussion about COVID rules. So much catastrophising.

If MM did open up the border, there is nothing stopping vulnerable people from self isolating at home is there?

StudentInDebt 12th Dec 2021 06:59


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11154701)
So you believe that if MM opened the borders from say Dec 20th to allow Christmas travel then 1000+ people will die in WA?

How did you come to that conclusion? Of the total deaths in Australia of 2072 in the last 22 months, 1390 were in Victoria.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b38f0ce20.jpeg

These are FACTS. This is why it is so hard to have a sensible discussion about COVID rules. So much catastrophising.

If MM did open up the border, there is nothing stopping vulnerable people from self isolating at home is there?

you’re correct, I was engaging in hyperbole, I apologise.

43Inches 12th Dec 2021 07:59

The short of it is that population density is the prime driver of this thing and then how communities interact, which in the case of QLD and WA it's really not a big threat. Vic has a more European style of interaction and dense population that converges around the city center, then throw in the communities that have large extended families and large community gatherings for whatever and you have the perfect spreading ground. I would hazard a guess that Melbourne also has a very high amount of older population concentrated in retirement homes which adds to the death rate. I doubt WA would get a massive outbreak even if they did let it rip, but I don't really care what they do, its their turf, their rules. Something for the voters of WA to sort out when the time comes.

PoppaJo 14th Dec 2021 10:59

Hold the press. If your positive and decide to spread your germs on one of our flights entering this state, then the hold planeload is off into Quarantine for the next fortnight, courtesy of our Anna.

Four flights today have now fallen over. Edit. Now that’s 5. Goodbye Christmas for these poor people.

Domestic confidence is never going to improve. Cannot believe I am still reading Airports being marked as exposure sites requiring quarantine. Every flight and airport is a exposure site now, forever and ever and ever!

snow dragon 14th Dec 2021 21:09

But I thought everyone was in need of a PCR negative result 72 hrs before travel?
Something is not correct?

Going Nowhere 14th Dec 2021 21:39

Sounds like a reaction to the cases in Newcastle.

RAAF member flew NTL-BNE-TSV

morno 15th Dec 2021 01:53

They’ve changed their minds, after businesses basically told them they will ruin everything if everyone who’s on a flight has to quarantine every time someone has covid.

Now only a couple of rows either side, which I think is still ridiculous, but better than the entire aeroplane I guess.

601 15th Dec 2021 13:34


Sounds like a reaction to the cases in Newcastle.

RAAF member flew NTL-BNE-TSV
Notified in TSV as a close contact of NTL covid case.


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