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ANCDU 10th Jan 2022 19:51


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11167888)
Now that a AO tennis player was Visa cancellation was over turned. What does this mean for Australians that were not allowed back unvaccinated who may have had it?! This guy has been an anti vaxer from the start. This country is a dead set joke.

From what I understand Australian citizens are currently allowed back in unvaccinated post infection with medical proof. The problem with the tennis player is that he was given advice by tennis Australia and the Victorian Government that only applied to Australian Citizens of which he is not. Even after his victory in his appeal he is technically still in Australia illegally.

goodonyamate 10th Jan 2022 20:39

If youíre unvaccinated, isnít there 14 days quarantine?

Lead Balloon 10th Jan 2022 20:59


Originally Posted by ANCDU (Post 11168189)
From what I understand Australian citizens are currently allowed back in unvaccinated post infection with medical proof. The problem with the tennis player is that he was given advice by tennis Australia and the Victorian Government that only applied to Australian Citizens of which he is not. Even after his victory in his appeal he is technically still in Australia illegally.

How can that be, when he has a visa?

ManillaChillaDilla 10th Jan 2022 21:01

This debacle illustrates well the last 2 years.

This once great country really is in a shambolic state these days.

MCD

Lead Balloon 10th Jan 2022 21:04

And this year is going to be a bigger debacle than the previous two…

WingNut60 10th Jan 2022 21:28

For the first time in my life the Australian Open may actually be entertaining

Chronic Snoozer 10th Jan 2022 21:50


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11168212)
How can that be, when he has a visa?

Like this.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis...00264f73f6fe1b

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...alia/100746080

If they deported this player I can't see how they cannot deport Djokovic, without knowing the exact details.

Either way it appears to be a gold standard cluster****

ANCDU 10th Jan 2022 22:18


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11168212)
How can that be, when he has a visa?

itís an e visa application, similar to the border applications here. If all the boxes are ticked correctly ( whether truthfully or not) an e visa is issued electronically and you show that on arrival to Australia with the supporting paperwork.

It specifies on the e visa paperwork and the website when you apply that it does not guarantee entry to Australia and that the final decision rests with Border Force on arrival.

Lead Balloon 10th Jan 2022 22:40

...and the Border Force's 'final decision' on arrival was challenged and overturned by the Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia.

It was reported in all the papers...

unobtanium 10th Jan 2022 23:09


Originally Posted by ANCDU (Post 11168247)

It specifies on the e visa paperwork and the website when you apply that it does not guarantee entry to Australia and that the final decision rests with Border Force on arrival.

the same ignorant, power tripping border force on TV who think speaking louder helps non english speaking people understand english?



Buster Hyman 10th Jan 2022 23:18

Just illustrates that the Legislation wasn't tight enough & exemplifies the regular 'Policy on the run' that both sides of the floor have experience in. I didn't think he should've been allowed to enter but the Courts have decided so I hope they don't use discretionary powers here.

SHVC 11th Jan 2022 00:51

I don’t think they will use discretionary powers after a court ruling, that will present more issues. However, it’s been reported he was not truthful on his declaration by not disclosing travel to Belgrade. He definitely has turned Australia in to the laughing stock of the world, as if we were not already. He had also outlined other issues that independents are jumping all over on the eve of an election which will create turmoil for the Libs. Our politicians really need to have a hard look at themself. Australia really needs to let go of these rules around COVID now, does seem unfair a person with the finances can challenge and win whilst normal Australians have had their lives up turned by these rules.

t_cas 11th Jan 2022 01:18

It is rather straightforward.

He came to play a game.

He is not vaccinated.

He is not an Australian citizen.

I need to be vaccinated to have Coffee at my local cafe. I am an Australian citizen. I live here.


C441 11th Jan 2022 03:01


...and the Border Force's 'final decision' on arrival was challenged and overturned by the Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia.
Not exactly. Border Force's decision was not challenged, the manner in which it was applied was challenged successfully. Transcripts show they had told NDj they'd give him until 8:30am to contact someone to assist him with his request for a visa but then acted at 7:42 to deny him a visa. It was that action that the judge found to be outside the law and it is for that reason that the Immigration Minister can still revoke Djokovic's visa if he so wishes.

Lead Balloon 11th Jan 2022 03:10

Not exactly?

Yes exactly.

And as each minute passes the Immigration Minister becomes less likely to pretend to be big and bwave.

galdian 11th Jan 2022 03:42

...and appears Border Force are looking into whether answer(s) he made in his visa application were misleading or dishonest.

Make it very interesting if the visa was granted based on such responses.

I'd call it 30 all at the moment.

Chronic Snoozer 11th Jan 2022 04:44

Interesting that he just happened to get the required infection about a couple of weeks before having to travel to Melbourne. What was his plan if he didn't get infected? After all, he'd already been issued the visa by then.

MickG0105 11th Jan 2022 06:35


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11168349)
Interesting that he just happened to get the required infection about a couple of weeks before having to travel to Melbourne. What was his plan if he didn't get infected? After all, he'd already been issued the visa by then.

Interesting timeline and actions taken by the fellow, that's for sure. Apparently tested positive on 16 December, then tested negative six days later on the 22nd, and appears to have not taken any precautions against infecting others between the two tests.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 12th Jan 2022 13:09

Meanwhile....Back At The Ranch.......

WA set to pull the curtin down - again - on Thursday 13th....(unlucky for some...) according to the latest from the 'usual suspect' news sources.....
(Apols to Casablanca)

Feb 5th looking a bit 'sus'..??
No doubt, more to follow....

Cheeerrrsss...

Transition Layer 12th Jan 2022 13:21


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 11168980)
Meanwhile....Back At The Ranch.......

WA set to pull the curtin down - again - on Thursday 13th....(unlucky for some...) according to the latest from the 'usual suspect' news sources.....
(Apols to Casablanca)

Feb 5th looking a bit 'sus'..??
No doubt, more to follow....

Cheeerrrsss...

ĎCurtiní as in one of our finest PMs? (A West Australian as well). Or are you suggesting some kind of lockdown?


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