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Foxxster 21st Aug 2021 01:30


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11098722)
Gladys keeps speaking in riddles it gives me a headache. Switched over to Dan at least itís bloody clear and straight to the damn point.

And have you noticed that she has deliberately got others to speak at the press conferences so she has less time to be questioned.

Chronic Snoozer 21st Aug 2021 01:43


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11098721)
maybe you should read what I said more carefully. Then realise what is actually driving their actions. Then realise they need to be held to account.

I did. Sounds like a whinge. Unless

Good effort Gladys
was meant to be genuine praise.


Why havenít they been released, at week 9 of this shambles.
Just list for us your qualifications for dealing with pandemics again?

Look, Iím all for accountability etc but I am neither qualified nor in a position to make that assessment. I doubt you are. Is Swedenís the right approach? Is New Zealandís? How about we have less of the histrionics, sit on our hands like good pilots, and see how this pans out before calling for heads? There is very little we can do on this bulletin board about it anyway.

rattman 21st Aug 2021 01:46


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11098723)
And have you noticed that she has deliberately got others to speak at the press conferences so she has less time to be questioned.

And its being held in a smaller room so they fit in less reporters and there for less questions and assuming only the tame ones get invited

Chronic Snoozer 21st Aug 2021 01:46


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11098722)
Gladys keeps speaking in riddles it gives me a headache. Switched over to Dan at least itís bloody clear and straight to the damn point.

I gave up listening to the pressers about 1023 iterations ago. Thereís only so many ways to say the same thing, and journos seem to be just looking for words to hang the politicians on. Itís very Ďdepressingí.

Turnleft080 21st Aug 2021 01:49


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11098722)
Gladys keeps speaking in riddles it gives me a headache. Switched over to Dan at least itís bloody clear and straight to the damn point.

"Can I just say, look, can I just say for one more time, that we are following the health advice, please! please! please! stay home, the health advice says this is beatable. Can I just say please! please! please! we are all in this together."

Turnleft080 21st Aug 2021 01:52


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11098728)
And its being held in a smaller room so they fit in less reporters and there for less questions and assuming only the tame ones get invited

The ABC ones. Always Bloody Correct.

Foxxster 21st Aug 2021 02:46

Protests in Sydney and a larger one in Melbourne. Wonderful….

volare_737 21st Aug 2021 02:51


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 11098677)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...ated/100394760

WTF is wrong with our media? This should be a positive story. Yes, case numbers in Israel have spiked significantly but guess what? Deaths are right down compared to ďa non-vaccinated Israeli populationĒ Itís buried deep within the story.

Australia has fck all hope with ABC spreading fear and continuing to focus on case numbers. I too wish we could eliminate COVID, we thought we could, Iím glad we gave it a go, but itís not going to happen. Accept it Australia.

The media is part of all the fear mongering and unfortunately 95 percent of Australians just follow what comes out of the square tube and refuse to think for themselves !!!

43Inches 21st Aug 2021 03:05


The media is part of all the fear mongering and unfortunately 95 percent of Australians just follow what comes out of the square tube and refuse to think for themselves !!!
Thankfully that is complete crap and MOST Aussies WILL be vaccinated in the coming months. Add to that MOST Aussies followed the rules and kept the death toll to a minimum while we reached that target. Those that didn't did not change anything, except possibly increase the death toll slightly and lengthen the lockdowns, thanks to those selfish individuals we went from a relatively open vaccination period to martial law. The media is completely to blame for vaccine hesitancy and SloMo for putting all eggs into one vaccine at the start causing a slower rollout. As for anti vaxxers, they are what they are, always there for ANY vaccine and not able to be delt with as they are not rational. Protesters are led mostly by a small group of Anti-vaxxers combined with anarchists playing games with the populace. I mean seriously you get Nazis protesting occasionally, I'm not particularly worried about them coming back to power, so a few hundred even thousands out of 5 million in each state protesting lockdowns ain't really news. Community sentiment is definitely way against them even to the point of thinking they are just mindless idiots. This is not BLM with 10s of thousands protesting that actually makes them look like a reasonable segment of the community.

Transition Layer 21st Aug 2021 03:07


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11098729)
I gave up listening to the pressers about 1023 iterations ago. Thereís only so many ways to say the same thing, and journos seem to be just looking for words to hang the politicians on. Itís very Ďdepressingí.

Why do they even need a daily press conference? Just inflating their own self importance, especially people like CHOs who no one even knew existed before this mess.
Simply publish a press release with the numbers, reinforce the current restrictions, and only appear when itís absolutely necessary. The non-conforming public arenít listening to the politicians anyway!

Torukmacto 21st Aug 2021 03:12


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11098745)
Thankfully that is complete crap and MOST Aussies WILL be vaccinated in the coming months. Add to that MOST Aussies followed the rules and kept the death toll to a minimum while we reached that target. Those that didn't did not change anything, except possibly increase the death toll slightly and lengthen the lockdowns, thanks to those selfish individuals we went from a relatively open vaccination period to martial law. The media is completely to blame for vaccine hesitancy and SloMo for putting all eggs into one vaccine at the start causing a slower rollout. As for anti vaxxers, they are what they are, always there for ANY vaccine and not able to be delt with as they are not rational. Protesters are led mostly by a small group of Anti-vaxxers combined with anarchists playing games with the populace. I mean seriously you get Nazis protesting occasionally, I'm not particularly worried about them coming back to power, so a few hundred even thousands out of 5 million in each state protesting lockdowns ain't really news. Community sentiment is definitely way against them even to the point of thinking they are just mindless idiots. This is not BLM with 10s of thousands protesting that actually makes them look like a reasonable segment of the community.

plus 1 ! Well said

43Inches 21st Aug 2021 03:15


Why do they even need a daily press conference?
I can attest that standing up and facing your people/customers when something goes wrong is far more effective than a press release. They can look you in the eye, and feel more relaxed about what you saying is true, and from your own mouth, whatever. Daily briefings I would say is expected by the older of the community, as a mark of respect that they are paying attention and acknowledging what is going on.

Xeptu 21st Aug 2021 03:18


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11098719)
Give it a rest would you. They canít deal with the outbreak by looking in the rear view mirror. If people arenít compliant, thatís not the governmentís fault, is it? This constant sniping and heckling of the government(s) is just wasting bandwidth.

We really don't mind, really it gives extra thrust to our "we told you so" statement.
17% of the population don't give a shit, they are in every state, NSW and VIC have the biggest population so therefore have the most of them. Reining them in now because you didn't apply your lockdowns to everyone will be almost impossible.
Set them all free, take the fuel away permit vehicles only, enforce the borders, that's all you can do now.

Green.Dot 21st Aug 2021 03:35

Expect more of this to comeÖ

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...urne/100396458

People really starting to lose the plot

SOPS 21st Aug 2021 03:58


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 11098754)
Expect more of this to comeÖ

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...urne/100396458

People really starting to lose the plot


Carrying signs saying Ď vaccine killsí and calling people waiting for a Covid test .. sheep.

Lockdown is not causing them to lose the plot.. they have not been right in the head for a long time.. probably since their mother dropped them at birth.

Green.Dot 21st Aug 2021 04:08

How many days you been in lockdown since this all began SOPS?

I donít support their behaviour but I donít think you are one to judge if they are/are not losing the plot.

43Inches 21st Aug 2021 05:17


I don’t support their behaviour but I don’t think you are one to judge if they are/are not losing the plot.
I've come across a few of the organisers of this stuff by association with friends. The leadership group spread completely fabricated material about the government wanting to murder its population and using vaccines to control us, etc etc wild conspiracy stuff. Lots of anecdotal evidence of "I knew xx who died of xx and they had xx vaccine". Then the old mental health thing that the government is not telling the truth about suicides and business failures. It's basically cult mentality where they all just listen to one guy overall and spread their message. With of course a few tag-a-longs with their families to fill out numbers. Thing to look out for, if all your information is being fed by one individual or small group leading you all, you might just be in a cult.

There are of course a few lost individuals in the group that feel genuinely about this.

The feel in my community (in Melbourne) is that they would have all these protesters jailed if they could.

I spent a lot of time undoing the rot with family and friends that have fallen for their stuff, thankfully they are coming round to vaccinate soon.

industry insider 21st Aug 2021 05:30

Foxxster wrote:


832 for NSW today. 825 local plus 7 from overseas.
But with the incubation period, these are figures from 7-10 days ago. Cases seem to double every couple of weeks so unless the circuit breakers work, which they show little sign of doing, reported cases in NSW could be over 1200 per day by the end of the month. Real cases are probably 1200+ now but we just don't know yet.

PoppaJo 21st Aug 2021 05:46


Originally Posted by industry insider (Post 11098769)
Foxxster wrote:

But with the incubation period, these are figures from 7-10 days ago. Cases seem to double every couple of weeks so unless the circuit breakers work, which they show little sign of doing, reported cases in NSW could be over 1200 per day by the end of the month. Real cases are probably 1200+ now but we just don't know yet.

Cases have been doubling weekly now not weeks.

In fact cases are now doubling every 6 days. Reducing as each day passes, so we are now in surge mode.

Not sure how she will spin her words as she does when we start cracking the 0000s. You canít have 2/3000 cases a day and keep spinning the same bullshit as she does for the next 2 months. Those are resignation numbers.

Andrews gave weddings across regional Vic today 120 mins notice to wrap it up. Gladys gave them half a week.

lineupandwait 21st Aug 2021 05:55


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11098771)
Cases have been doubling weekly now not weeks.

In fact cases are now doubling every 6 days. Reducing as each day passes, so we are now in surge mode.

Not sure how she will spin her words as she does when we start cracking the 0000s. You canít have 2/3000 cases a day and keep spinning the same bullshit as she does for the next 2 months. Those are resignation numbers.

Andrews had Weddings today 120 mins to wrap it up. Gladys have them half a week.

1000's a day is called living with it. If you're uncomfortable with it and not vaccinated go get AZ.

Time to move on and stop reporting case numbers.



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