What the politicians and health bureaucrats may not be anticipating is the lack of a smooth transition out of Australia's pandemic response due to rapidly rising frustrations and fatigue. Civil disobedience can get quickly out of hand. More and more perceived inequalities due inconsistent health policies will fuel social discord. The economy will be put under strain however, Australians who will inevitably have to suffer, will see the cosy in government positions dictating "compliance" and "obedience" despite vaccination targets being achieved.
If you aren't getting vaccinated, stop dodging the salads, get some sunshine and general fitness. The let it rip sentiments may be upon us courtesy of unravelled social cohesions. |
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If you haven’t been vaccinated and you end up in hospital the recommended treatment by the majority of American hospitals is Monoclonal, anti inflammatory corticosteroids, vitamin D, Zinc and a good antibiotic. Leave out the other contentious treatments those ones listed are the reason Covid deaths have dropped off a cliff since early in the pandemic. News from a month ago was that Delta is less virulent not more..that narrative seems to evolved with some sort of Chinese whispers among the great unwashed to the opposite belief.
…the news is good if you’re a glass half full person. ICU advice is to NEVER ventilate a Covid patient (unless crashing). Best practice is to lay them face down on a bed with 100% oxygen non-invasive ventilation. Covid casualties are still almost exclusively among the elderly with co-morbidities and the morbidly obese |
Yes, our politicians are 100% protected from the disastrous fallout that they are creating for everybody else. Parasites. |
However as I said before Gladys is only protected until the next election, then her job will be up for consideration, so no, she's not 100% protected. Not making excuses for her just making it clear we all have the ability to send any one of these pollies a clear message at the voting station next round. Even if you are not sure about the other guy, make it clear you didn't like what they did. If she gets decimated by public sentiment then she won't even have any political future, even in opposition. So you would prefer Victorian style communist lockdown where you have to get written permission from the government to go to work? Australians are impossible. You complain about lockdowns and lost freedom, then want to vote out the only government that actually looks for a balance with freedom. Do you really think a coast to coast Labor government would actually give you more freedom? |
Covid casualties are still almost exclusively among the elderly with co-morbidities and the morbidly obese |
So you would prefer Victorian style communist lockdown where you have to get written permission from the government to go to work? Australians are impossible. You complain about lockdowns and lost freedom, then want to vote out the only government that actually looks for a balance with freedom. |
The problem with that concept, 43I, is that the only people who can vote Dan / Gladys out are their respective State citizens. Even though Gladys' failure to lockdown earlier has had nationwide implications, those in Qld or Vic have got no say, anymore than me having a say in McGoose's re-election hopes, even though I've spent more time actually in WA over the last decade than my home state...
FWIW, I don't blame Gladys for this screwup. Yes, they should have locked down earlier, we know that now. They were running their standard playbook for the original strain and got caught out by Delta that doesn't play by those rules. Vic is beginning to lose it, even EnZud has got cases of it now and they've had none for yonks. Of course, she could have kept it out of NSW for almost the entire pandemic by doing what Tasmania has done - not accept any incoming airfreight or international passengers but who else was going to step up and do it? Anna-Stayaway? McGoose? I've noticed an increasing trend for Pollie's to start sprinkling their press conferences with comments such as "even if we get to 70% / 80% some restrictions will remain however, they will not verbalize just what those restrictions may be beyond masks and social distancing, as if to suggest that's all there will be. |
FWIW, I don't blame Gladys for this screwup. Yes, they should have locked down earlier, we know that now. If it wasn't for that I'd agree with you, but with those sentiments and others, Gladys and her team were playing, "I'm better than you" politics and paid for it. She is definitely to blame. PS Don't forget that SloMo was also in the background saying all the states should ease up, it ain't that bad. Now he's saying "Lockdowns are a necessary part of our road out". Only since it took off out of Sydney, "nothing to see here, hey I told you so, I always said you need to lock down hard and fast", *winks at Dan and backs away to maintain obscurity again*. |
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While I disagree with forcing people to get jabs, it's obviously starting now, that if you don't get it you will have to really fight to hold that stance. That 4% is going to have to comply, fight hard or find other work...
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Originally Posted by turbantime
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
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While I disagree with forcing people to get jabs, it's obviously starting now, that if you don't get it you will have to really fight to hold that stance. That 4% is going to have to comply, fight hard or find other work...
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Some colleagues have mentioned that they are going to start calling the anti-vaxxers who capitulate ‘pussies’. These anti-vaxxers have been extremely vocal, disruptive and downright dangerous. If they truly believe in their cause, they will resign. I predict that most won’t and will get the jab, therefore they are hypocrites and will be labelled as pussies for the rest of their careers. |
Wonder what the vibe is this morning at the Coward St Wellness Centre? Is the yoga, basket making and garden walking sufficient to quell the angst at mandatory vaccination policy?
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
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Sad to see, I'm obviously Pro-vax, but, I believe its just a matter of education on the subject. Hence I continue the fight on this forum, but I would happily have a beer and chew the fat with a non-vaxer, and yes you will get annoyed with me asking you to get the jab, but I don't hate them. I'm the same with any subject matter I get involved with, it's opinions. This one is just very important to everyones welfare, both physical and economic (my point of view). A lot of anti vaxxers are not crazies, they just don't trust the vaccines being so new, so that is an education issue, not a stupidity, ignorance or whatever, that only comes in what you flatly refute facts given to you or just flat make stuff up. Then theres the media who is just as much to blame as SloMo for the slow vaccine roll out.
The ones I’m referring to are on the extreme end of the scale. The ones who mock people for getting vaccinated. The ones who purposely go out of their way to spread misinformation and instil fear. The ones who beat their chests about how they are not sheep and no one can tell them what to do. I’m talking about the very low percentage of abject morons who we have the unfortunate misfortune of calling our colleagues. If they capitulate, and don’t resign, then they are hypocrites. |
I don't have any issue with the vaccine, but that's only because I'm old and it probably isn't going to matter either way. I'm more concerned about the virus itself and it's impact upon my grandchildren. We haven't really been introduced to it yet, only the corona its trojan horse. We don't know anything about it other than it's very long and complex. That surely has to mean lots of capabilities. It really does have us by the short and curlies, so I don't think we should be judging anyone for anything just yet.
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633 in SYD today....
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The ones I’m referring to are on the extreme end of the scale. The ones who mock people for getting vaccinated. The ones who purposely go out of their way to spread misinformation and instil fear. The ones who beat their chests about how they are not sheep and no one can tell them what to do. I’m talking about the very low percentage of abject morons who we have the unfortunate misfortune of calling our colleagues. If they capitulate, and don’t resign, then they are hypocrites. |
Just got an email from Alan…vaccines mandatory from late November for ALL crew in the Qantas group.
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